MMORPG.com agrees with me.

MornaBaine

Armitas wrote: »

Yep simply put the PC game is not worth the subscription fee right now. The only reason to sub right now during console crisis is to altruistically support the company in hope of the future. Its the only reason I remain subbed through this.

I think they are stuck with console crisis as much as we are. My thought is to support them through it so they can later begin to support me after the crisis is over. If they lose subs they may lose a position, or a potential hire and then console crisis takes even longer to end. Maybe we get burned at the end for all our support I don't know, but it seems reasonable.

This pretty much right here is why I'm still around. That, and my amazing guild full of awesome people, for which ZoS can take no credit. If they don't wow me in time for Xmas I will know my continued monetary support of this game has been a waste.

LadyDestiny

BigM wrote: »

Enaijo wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

Proof?

For what do you need proof? I thought these sites are so important that you read them frequently, don't you? Ok, just one example: http://massivelyop.com/2015/05/06/daybreaks-john-smedley-everquest-next-isnt-vaporware/

For more, try google. Have you proof for what you are saying? I doubt it ...

WAIT, you want me to believe something smed says, I stopped listening to him 10 years ago all he does is twist lies into more lies. Can you please show me more proof other than smed.

Good ole Smed. I wouldn't play another game he is involved with. Not after what happened to Star Wars Galaxies.....:(

Raash

MornaBaine wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Yep simply put the PC game is not worth the subscription fee right now. The only reason to sub right now during console crisis is to altruistically support the company in hope of the future. Its the only reason I remain subbed through this.

I think they are stuck with console crisis as much as we are. My thought is to support them through it so they can later begin to support me after the crisis is over. If they lose subs they may lose a position, or a potential hire and then console crisis takes even longer to end. Maybe we get burned at the end for all our support I don't know, but it seems reasonable.

This pretty much right here is why I'm still around. That, and my amazing guild full of awesome people, for which ZoS can take no credit. If they don't wow me in time for Xmas I will know my continued monetary support of this game has been a waste.

Dont you worry, im sure ZoS are grateful for the 100 dollars you are going to pay them if you keep the crown sub active until xmas
When I think about it, I actually feel a bit bad for feeling cheated on the 5 months of sub I payed for last spring & summer! You guys must really have patience blessed by the angels or something that keep paying, especially for a free game.

Naivefanboi

PKMN12 wrote: »

Arundo wrote: »

Getting so tired of these so called experts who seemingly havent played many MMO's. Every MMO has its dry spells of content between major patches/expansions/DLC. The dude at MMORPG does not want to sound like a toddler but he does, I guess ESO is his first ever MMO.

ESO is now over 1 year old, had already some major content updates. Craglorn, Justice System, new Trials and still its not enough for the next generation of "give me more now toddlers".

World of Warcraft launched in 2004, the first major expansion came in 2007 thats 3 years later. ESO still has 2 years to match that.

Stop making up excuses to not wanting play ESO, leave and come back when the game has more to offer for you. As ESO still has alot of things to do for those who are now playing. And stop making these posts to support your reason to quit.

Justice system does not actually add any content to endgame.
no one likes craglorn
and there are VERY few trials added

WOW added SEVERAL new things all throughout its first year or two years, way more then ESO has. ESO also has to be even better, because it has WAY more competition.

I like craglorn, love the adventure zone idea. Altho if some dont like it i get that, hopefully doent mean it needs to be removed, but idk some people didn't like chat logs apparently so lets toss adventure zones too

Agree with everything else tho

Davadin

BigM wrote: »

Great read and exactly how a lot of us feel about the game. Heck looks like he canceled and refused to give them any more money same time I made my decision.

mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/821/feature/9739/The-Reason-I-Canceled-My-Subscription.html/page/1

he got 2 reasons. the fact console getting the upper hand, and 10% XP isn't worth $15.

i agree with the latter, but couldnt care less with the first.

i still have more content to do...

MCMancub

Davadin wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

Great read and exactly how a lot of us feel about the game. Heck looks like he canceled and refused to give them any more money same time I made my decision.

mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/821/feature/9739/The-Reason-I-Canceled-My-Subscription.html/page/1

he got 2 reasons. the fact console getting the upper hand, and 10% XP isn't worth $15.

i agree with the latter, but couldnt care less with the first.

i still have more content to do...

But $15 worth of crowns is worth $15. So technically ESO Plus gives you more value than what you pay for, even if you think it should give more.

WillhelmBlack

I'm shocked people still pay a subscription for a free game. Some say they like to support the game. Are PC users getting the same in return ATM? ZOS are about to make a few more million this month, wake up! I love the fact I don't have to pay a sub anymore, not because I don't have any money because I don't think its worth it after paying a box sale. I'd rather pay for my DLC's seperately. Imagine paying for your sub since launch having no new content then some new DLC is announced and to you it looks absolutely rubbish.

BigM

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

I'm shocked people still pay a subscription for a free game. Some say they like to support the game. Are PC users getting the same in return ATM? ZOS are about to make a few more million this month, wake up! I love the fact I don't have to pay a sub anymore, not because I don't have any money because I don't think its worth it after paying a box sale. I'd rather pay for my DLC's seperately. Imagine paying for your sub since launch having no new content then some new DLC is announced and to you it looks absolutely rubbish.

Sure they will make a bundle on box sales. But every online game needs funds coming in monthly to keep adding content and for the game to stay afloat. So turning it around am shocked you can't get the concept the box sales will go along way but everything costs money from megaserver we and others play on cost money, devs cost money, the money put up to make game has to be paid back. Hate to tell you this but nothing is free. So box sales only go so far.

Also DLC's won't be coming out every month, they still need to pay all overhead costs. I do agree they do not deserve a sub by anyone right now, but that depends how much you love the game or hate the game and if you want it to die or survive.

Attorneyatlawl

MCMancub wrote: »

Oh good. Even more whining. I wasn't tired of seeing it on the forums yet.

If they addressed some of the causes of the negative, but constructive (unlike this quote) feedback, things would get better .

Elsonso

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

I'm shocked people still pay a subscription for a free game. Some say they like to support the game. Are PC users getting the same in return ATM? ZOS are about to make a few more million this month, wake up! I love the fact I don't have to pay a sub anymore, not because I don't have any money because I don't think its worth it after paying a box sale. I'd rather pay for my DLC's seperately. Imagine paying for your sub since launch having no new content then some new DLC is announced and to you it looks absolutely rubbish.

I pay a subscription for a free game.

Well, technically, on June 20, I will pay a subscription for a buy to play game. Right now I am on a subscription that was paid for when the game was a subscription game.

I know that I do not have to pay for a subscription, but I also know that I am getting $15 worth of Crowns and +10% XP for the $12.99/mo that I am paying for on June 20. Since I have no max level characters, that +10% is handy. I am not as concerned about the Crowns, but I have spent close to half of them so far.

I do think that ESO is, was, and will be worth a monthly subscription.

coryevans_3b14_ESO

BigM wrote: »

LOL funny how you attack me, you lover boys are the funny one's. WAAAAA your attacking my games. Just like every game the fanboi's come out and all they do is attack. You know attacking the person means you lost the battle. :-D

/shakes head and walks away saying liberals. :-D

I probably have more issues and anger towards the devs than you do. I just don't like the way you phrase things. You're not good at it.

BigM

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

LOL funny how you attack me, you lover boys are the funny one's. WAAAAA your attacking my games. Just like every game the fanboi's come out and all they do is attack. You know attacking the person means you lost the battle. :-D

/shakes head and walks away saying liberals. :-D

I probably have more issues and anger towards the devs than you do. I just don't like the way you phrase things. You're not good at it.

LOL sorry am 60 years old take 14 pills a day and am disabled. Sorry I can't be as clear and perfect as you. But I will work on it. Don't get me wrong I get it and understand where your coming from.

Selique

Enaijo wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

Call it what ever you like. Problem is MMORPG hits a lot of PC/MAC users, this is NOT good for ZoS.

And most of them know that MMORPG.com is a club of ... whiners. Don't you? I would never, never ever read an article there and take it as given. And I don't really know someone who would ... maybe you are the first?

BigM

Selique wrote: »

Enaijo wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

Call it what ever you like. Problem is MMORPG hits a lot of PC/MAC users, this is NOT good for ZoS.

And most of them know that MMORPG.com is a club of ... whiners. Don't you? I would never, never ever read an article there and take it as given. And I don't really know someone who would ... maybe you are the first?

2 Million+ I guess could be wrong. I find them a lot better than lets say IGN.

coryevans_3b14_ESO

BigM wrote: »

Selique wrote: »

Enaijo wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

Call it what ever you like. Problem is MMORPG hits a lot of PC/MAC users, this is NOT good for ZoS.

And most of them know that MMORPG.com is a club of ... whiners. Don't you? I would never, never ever read an article there and take it as given. And I don't really know someone who would ... maybe you are the first?

2 Million+ I guess could be wrong. I find them a lot better than lets say IGN.

Okay so you like one opinionated and half witted web site over another. Yay!!!

BigM

coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

Selique wrote: »

Enaijo wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

Call it what ever you like. Problem is MMORPG hits a lot of PC/MAC users, this is NOT good for ZoS.

And most of them know that MMORPG.com is a club of ... whiners. Don't you? I would never, never ever read an article there and take it as given. And I don't really know someone who would ... maybe you are the first?

2 Million+ I guess could be wrong. I find them a lot better than lets say IGN.

Okay so you like one opinionated and half witted web site over another. Yay!!!

Yay and you like none, unless you want to link which one you think is great. Never surprises me how people will put down people for liking one site but never bring up what they like. Or at least post some links that show how bad the site you hate is. People like you have big voices but never explain why.

SeptimusDova

I don't see MMORPG or the writer as being unbiased. We cannot know Zenimax Media's financial state without reason or subpoena. We can guess and that leads us down the dangerous and embarrassing road of assumption. Financial standing and Intellectual Property guardianship are right to be held close to the vest. Industries worldwide are realizing to late that the slightest bit of information/intelligence you opponent derives on you will be used to their advantage. Always been the case but with today's technology and the speed of prototype/print/patent/copyright/production services it's increasingly vital.

I wish Zenicats well on this venture. Console going off without a hitch would be a big morale boost to the dev team.Morale to force is 3 to 1. I am not happy with the delay on content. I will survive though. Gives me more time for my other hobbies. I can toss a thought out about the delay, being that console is indeed as intensive as they say to write code develop, and maintain the existing game that maybe just maybe it is what they say it is. The delay and the cause.

I think they need to work on their Customer relations and offer more forthright explanations for past ,present and future actions, Ambiguity and lead the suspicious of intent to see your actions as deceitful ZOS. You may not care now but when the budget gets tight you might then.