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PVP has begun to die - DC NA will be the first death kneel

  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    What's funny to me is groups of 24 AD and ep are reduced to dog piling on singular dc running around abandoned campaigns. How exactly is this fun for you people?

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    Roechacca wrote: »
    We are also discussing adjustments to the fluidity of transferring between campaigns.

    Faction change option would give players the chance to fix most of Our problems Ourselves without sacrificing pvp time .

    Ha ha, you're right, but I don't think that's what he meant. Knowing ZoS, they're scheming to make it HARDER for players to move around, much less change factions!
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Roechacca wrote: »
    We are also discussing adjustments to the fluidity of transferring between campaigns.

    Faction change option would give players the chance to fix most of Our problems Ourselves without sacrificing pvp time .

    Ha ha, you're right, but I don't think that's what he meant. Knowing ZoS, they're scheming to make it HARDER for players to move around, much less change factions!

    Next patch notes:

    "We have increased the VR experience cost to rank up for any character that has a VR14 of an opposing faction."
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    Roechacca wrote: »
    We are also discussing adjustments to the fluidity of transferring between campaigns.

    Faction change option would give players the chance to fix most of Our problems Ourselves without sacrificing pvp time .

    Ha ha, you're right, but I don't think that's what he meant. Knowing ZoS, they're scheming to make it HARDER for players to move around, much less change factions!

    Next patch notes:

    "We have increased the VR experience cost to rank up for any character that has a VR14 of an opposing faction."

    That used to sound good to me ;) as a random tongue in cheek idea.

    Here's what we actually need: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/174847/its-time-to-seriously-discuss-how-to-revamp-and-fix-ava-population-imbalances-and-rewards
    Edited by Attorneyatlawl on June 10, 2015 3:55AM
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  • Crown
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    Here's something else that would help a lot..

    FIX THE DAMNED BATTLE SPIRIT BUFF PROBLEM!

    I'm sorry for the topic hijack, there's been no headway made and little to no communications recently - and this affects quite a few peoples' ability to play.
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  • sswilhelm_27b14_ESO
    We are also discussing adjustments to the fluidity of transferring between campaigns.

    Finally!!! This is needed.

    Also if you are going for low pop buff bonuses, dont forget mid pop bonuses... if one faction has abandoned the camp (1 bar) the second is dominant (pop locked) the third (2-3 bars) will be outpopulated and without any buffs as things stand now.
    Edited by sswilhelm_27b14_ESO on June 14, 2015 3:34AM
  • ArcVelarian
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    heavily nerf purge, problem solved.
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  • silentxthreat
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    They really ought think of opening up limited faction transfers.

    Make it available to characters of a certain alliance rank for a limited time and entirely for the purpose of balancing numbers.

    this is a great idea to offer free to super high pop sides to the underdog
  • Pman85
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    alt+QQ. bye felicia
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  • ConvictedRambo
    They shouldn't do anything about it.


    In war, there is a victor. In this war that victor was flying the Ebonheart banner. ES history is unfolding as it should. The Ebonheart pact is strong and the political underdog defeats AD and DC, bringing peace to Tamriel for a short period of time.


    I suggest getting more creative in your recruiting tactics, make your alliances, races, and classes more appealing. I wager that Ebonheart wins in this game's story.
    Edited by ConvictedRambo on June 24, 2015 3:26AM
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  • x2012ajipreub18_ESO
    I agree, I think it's simply that EP has shown itself to be the dominant faction and ultimately has won the war in Tamriel. It was a good fight AD and DC but the true rulers of Tamriel have taken what is theirs.
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  • Satiar
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    Well, reinforcements are on the way. DC has help up and coming!
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  • CN_Daniel
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    I hate to say it, but you don't want to give the faction that has never seen
    I agree, I think it's simply that EP has shown itself to be the dominant faction and ultimately has won the war in Tamriel. It was a good fight AD and DC but the true rulers of Tamriel have taken what is theirs.

    You say this, but DC has won 2 out of the last 3 cycles in Azura.
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    1. Get rid of the ability to travel-to-player into Cyrodiil
    2. Specific faction transfers available as needed. Example: If DC has way too few people, enable transfers from AD/EP to DC and only DC, the same would go for a similar situation on AD or EP.
    3. Zerg balling, for the love of Talos find a way to make it go away.
    4. Make a PvE only version of Cyrodiil and remove all the PvE dailies from the PvP version.
    5. Cracked Wood Cave, fix it.

    #4 alone would fix alot of problems in PvP. In 2 campaigns AD is pop locked and yet there doesn't seem to be any AD players fighting in PvP sieges. Why is this? It's because most of them, (I'm guilty of this also), are out questing and doing dungeons. The only reason I pay attention to where PvP fight is, is so I can avoid the area, or be more in the area, so I can continue my PvE play in Cryodiil. The reason the PvE questing is happening in PvP areas is because many of us are stuck at VR11 or so and need places to gain experiance without the chore of mindlessly grinding 1 or 2 spots elsewhere. Craglorn has it's own problems for solo players looking for things to do. This situtation will only get alot worse when Imperial City (with its PvE quests to gain a new crafters motif), is opened up. If some change isn't made, we'll have 3 dead buff servers and 1 or 2 overcrowded lagfest servers, plus 1 non-vet server you might actually be able to PvP in. I know many will be against seperate PvP and PvE Cryodiils, I know I was. But I really don't see any other solution is the long run. The seperate PvE Tramel and PvP Feluca servers have worked quite well for UO for 20 years now. (will ESO even make 5 years at this rate?)
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  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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  • Cody
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    Its time for me to stoop so low as to say "I told ya so" I told people this would happen, but they either ignored me or even made fun of me a select few times. Well, here it is folks. PvP is now beginning a slow and painful death. Once PvP dies, PvE will come next, mark my words.

    Perhaps consoles are faring better.

    ZOS, y'all can either start actually caring about your game and start getting all of your players back, or continue prioritizing the crown store and new unneeded content while letting the game shrivel and die.
    Edited by Cody on June 25, 2015 5:15PM
  • CN_Daniel
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    DC isn't going anywhere. Ask da banana who wuz on Azura last night.

    We're getting better, day by day.
  • Cathexis
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    There are two easy ways to solve this.

    (1) limit population access when joining cyrodiil so that population balance is always equal (+get rid of the entire "home campaig, guest campaign" locking concept, that is to say keep home campaign but allow access to all campaigns and have points earned be transferable to your individual score)

    And/or

    (2) allow players to fight for factions by allowing them to choose for themselves. Incentivise the choice by offering "contracts" that pay for time committed to a particular faction, that scales with a factions population imbalance (so high pop = low value contract, low pop = high value contract).

    With regard to number two here, I know people don't like the idea of a non-commital faction system but I would ask those people to step back and ask themselves: is my pride worth killing the game over.

    Because that's the reality, the game is dieing.
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  • tonemd
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    They shouldn't do anything about it.


    In war, there is a victor. In this war that victor was flying the Ebonheart banner. ES history is unfolding as it should. The Ebonheart pact is strong and the political underdog defeats AD and DC, bringing peace to Tamriel for a short period of time.


    I suggest getting more creative in your recruiting tactics, make your alliances, races, and classes more appealing. I wager that Ebonheart wins in this game's story.

    Ah so this is what you guys do when you have poplock vs 1 bars and own the map, role play.

    It makes sense now.
  • Rylana
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    I think this thread was a little premature.

    DC stronk again
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  • FlounderOG
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    DC needs leaders. People who will take charge, bring numbers, and make progress on the map. These things keep people interested. I was lucky enough to be a part of a DC charge on the Xbox one NA server, we did really good for once, it was what got me into the PVP, rather than wandering around the map not seeing anybody.

    Then when we took one keep, everyone just scattered and we lost our momentum. That was a poor battle decision in my opinion. If we keep the charge we could have taken at least another keep, maybe even two. Even when we are under attack, you wouldn't believe how many times I was the only person trying to defend the keep from EP or AD, its like we don't even care if they take back our territory or something.

    We need some strong guilds, Actively recruiting, forming specialized teams, and waging different missions. There should be a recruiting party at every wayshrine asking people to join the charge.

    I'm being a little idealistic, but I think if people were more outgoing the tides would change drastically. I feel like we are only losing due to poor communication 80% of the time.
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  • CN_Daniel
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  • PeggymoeXD
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    Rylana wrote: »
    I think this thread was a little premature.

    DC stronk again

    CUZ OF ME. Jk. Lots of other faction's players did roll DC to possibly even the odds, I think it's starting to work.
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  • Yonkit
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    PeggymoeXD wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    I think this thread was a little premature.

    DC stronk again

    CUZ OF ME. Jk. Lots of other faction's players did roll DC to possibly even the odds, I think it's starting to work.

    I told grunt this last night, but i'm going to take all the good blue and make them reroll red.

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  • afterbirth
    Azura on NA PS4 is being dominated by AD, with DC pushed back on both sides but mainly by AD. However that makes it entertaining on my part. Yeah I'm getting whooped only being a lvl 25 but running with my guild and having coordination we have made an impact. We gain ground and lose it, currently AD has all elder scrolls. So what, we will recover.
    Edited by afterbirth on June 29, 2015 5:12PM
  • alaiham2002
    It ain't ZOS' fault it is because you guys do not wanna pvp.
  • Minnesinger
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    Who would have thought players felt the need to assist the faction lacking players. Well done. The time of rerolling is perfect as you can use exp pots and the coming changes will raise the xp gain. After lvl 49v also the champions points will come handy. DC will be a strong faction. There is no chance DC will bow out.
    Edited by Minnesinger on July 3, 2015 6:31PM
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  • Gizit
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    We are among you DC, we are leveling and soon we will be running this *** in Cryodiil, give us a little bit more time.
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  • AMZxArchMage
    I hate pvp now because of the overwhelming numbers EP has in NA server my server is Juliek and the first day it's neck and neck then night falls (in real life) EP's enormous numbers take over and retake everything they can get. The score on the morning of day 2 was like DC 2000, AD 3000, and EP 13000. This really needs to be fixed I used to love pvp and now I just look at the scores to see if EP is still dominating. Please zenimax fix this ****.
  • CN_Daniel
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    Really? I swear that emp in Azura is blue? Naaaaa, can't be!

    DC is dead.

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