Azura Star EU

Lava_Croft

Counting has never been one of the strong points of both the Blues and the Yellows. But I guess if you make your eyes really small and then look through a set of empty loo rolls you can kind of emulate this.

Kryank

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Counting has never been one of the strong points of both the Blues and the Yellows. But I guess if you make your eyes really small and then look through a set of empty loo rolls you can kind of emulate this.

The main problem of lag is increased dramatically by lots of solo 'pugs' sticking together and following the crosses around looking for a fight.

This happens because of the danger of doing anything else if you are low levelled, new to pvp, or poorly skilled.

This was demonstrated by you yesterday when I was running round on my vr1 DK solo, and you and your 3 friends ganked me and killed me, then proceeded to tell me I shouldn't be alone in cyrodiil if I dont want to get ganked.

I don't mind this at all it's the name of solo play, in fact I quite enjoy it, it helps me improve.

However (and this is the kicker), by doing what you do you are as guilty as the big pug zergs for causing lag, as you and groups like you cause the low level, new and poor skilled players to group up in order to not get blown up every time they leave a keep.

Just some food for thought!

And for the record I spend most of my time every day in cyrodiil and run normally solo or in small group of 1 or 2, occasionally maybe once every week or so I will run with the larger honour group if I happen to be on in an evening but it's very rare.

Lava_Croft

Kryank wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Counting has never been one of the strong points of both the Blues and the Yellows. But I guess if you make your eyes really small and then look through a set of empty loo rolls you can kind of emulate this.

The main problem of lag is increased dramatically by lots of solo 'pugs' sticking together and following the crosses around looking for a fight.

This happens because of the danger of doing anything else if you are low levelled, new to pvp, or poorly skilled.

This was demonstrated by you yesterday when I was running round on my vr1 DK solo, and you and your 3 friends ganked me and killed me, then proceeded to tell me I shouldn't be alone in cyrodiil if I dont want to get ganked.

I don't mind this at all it's the name of solo play, in fact I quite enjoy it, it helps me improve.

However (and this is the kicker), by doing what you do you are as guilty as the big pug zergs for causing lag, as you and groups like you cause the low level, new and poor skilled players to group up in order to not get blown up every time they leave a keep.

Just some food for thought!

And for the record I spend most of my time every day in cyrodiil and run normally solo or in small group of 1 or 2, occasionally maybe once every week or so I will run with the larger honour group if I happen to be on in an evening but it's very rare.

Dragon Knight failed to pass a Speechcraft check.

You whispered me about 4 people killing a poor VR1 Dragon Knight, to which I replied what you stated, since that's the best advice for a VR1 Dragon Knight in a campaign like Azura's Star.

The rest of your post would make sense if there was only small 1-4 man groups and megazergs, while there's a whole world of differently sized groups in between. You don't have to go out alone as a VR1 Dragon Knight, just like you don't have to go out in a group of 40 people as a VR1 Dragon Knight.

If it's any consolation, we all feel really bad for being forced by our superiors to kill even the most feeble of enemies we come across, but only slightly less bad than when seemingly feeble enemies kill us.

Also, Q_Q

DeanTheCat

At this point in the game, anyone who uses an AoE ability (Read: Everyone) is guilty of causing lag. There is absolutely no use in trying to blame lag on your opposition, and it makes the poster look really bad. The servers simply cannot handle the sheer amount of stress that we are inflicting on it, and that is nobody's fault (player wise).

Every time an AoE ability is fired, the sheer number of LoS checks needed takes a toll. Heck, even passives like Exploitation, Hemorrhage, Illuminate and Mountain's Blessing also contribute, as these passives check in a 2700 meter radius around the player. This number is supplied by Zenimax in one of their ESO lives. Since these passives do not have a target cap, every single time the conditions to satisfy one of the passives is met, a huge amount of LoS checks are performed just by the player being present.

Also, I've always wondered this. Why do people complain about being zerged down constantly, when they willingly head to the campaign most notorious for it's tricolour megazergs? Seems a bit counter-intuitive to me.

Jhunn

The fault for f*cking up the game so badly lies with ZOS. The fault for stacking 3 raids on top of eachother lies with the specific groups. So yes, it is somebody's fault.

Hexys

LegendaryChef wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

A better environment starts at yourself!

Weird that your saying this. A couple of nights ago we came across you in a group of roughly 20 reds (wabbajack?) at Roebeck farm on I think it was spell breaker? We were 12 btw when we swept you off the floor, so I am now awaiting your smart comment telling me that my group of 12 creates more lag than your group of 20, no?

You talk a lot on here about being a solo player and "small scaler" but the fact anyone even reads your endless amounts of hypocrisy and BS is beyond me, crying about zergs and surfing them when you get the chance senpai, one day will you teach me how to be a "solo support NB"?

@LegendaryChef let me back you up,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkk_ItCLTlA&feature=youtu.be

First of all our group size being half the size of your group @Lava_Croft is already a sign that this fight should end in a loss for my group and a win for yours. Besides being outnumbered, at 0:35 you can clearly see who is trying to take advantage of the so called: 'fall damage meteor bug'. the third point is found at 0:50 were you use a barrier to bring another big advantage towards your own group as the ultimate is not affected by the AoE caps.

You Kris should not QQ about anything. I wish we were EP at this moment just because all the Ebonheart players are found in the campaigns Azura's Star and Trueflame. How cool would it be to have all the AD's and DC's for your own? (For example: on Ebonyblade & Spellbreaker)

But this is our perspective which comes down to 'constructive and competitive PvP + winning outnumbered fights' and not the words some players use as the cool 'AP farming'. There is no need to stack numbers, use siege equipment, insta-revive players or the use of barriers in order to compete inside Cyrodiil.

If you think this was a 'lucky win', you can search further on my channel to see that you can compete against even larger numbers.

VagabondAngel

Hexys wrote: »

let me back you up,

"Let me use this debate as a vehicle to show how awesome I think my group is and simultaneously absolve ourselves of any responsibility for any wrongdoing in PvP, either now or any time in the past or henceforth."

Lava_Croft

All I experience is:

Erondil

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

let me back you up,

"Let me use this debate as a vehicle to show how awesome I think my group is and simultaneously absolve ourselves of any responsibility for any wrongdoing in PvP, either now or any time in the past or henceforth."

If only there was a debate... trying to talk with kris is like trying to talk to your dog. He wont care what you say all he will do is repeat the same thing over and over. I guess he plays a lizard for a reason.

Lava_Croft

I'm just really bad with processing ***, so that's your problem.

themdogesbite

It's pretty great that we get accused of haveing groups of 30 when we have been offline for over 4 hours. The ammount of blind hate is just getting to new levels.

Tankqull

Hexys wrote: »

LegendaryChef wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

A better environment starts at yourself!

Weird that your saying this. A couple of nights ago we came across you in a group of roughly 20 reds (wabbajack?) at Roebeck farm on I think it was spell breaker? We were 12 btw when we swept you off the floor, so I am now awaiting your smart comment telling me that my group of 12 creates more lag than your group of 20, no?

You talk a lot on here about being a solo player and "small scaler" but the fact anyone even reads your endless amounts of hypocrisy and BS is beyond me, crying about zergs and surfing them when you get the chance senpai, one day will you teach me how to be a "solo support NB"?

@LegendaryChef let me back you up,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkk_ItCLTlA&feature=youtu.be

First of all our group size being half the size of your group @Lava_Croft is already a sign that this fight should end in a loss for my group and a win for yours. Besides being outnumbered, at 0:35 you can clearly see who is trying to take advantage of the so called: 'fall damage meteor bug'. the third point is found at 0:50 were you use a barrier to bring another big advantage towards your own group as the ultimate is not affected by the AoE caps.

You Kris should not QQ about anything. I wish we were EP at this moment just because all the Ebonheart players are found in the campaigns Azura's Star and Trueflame. How cool would it be to have all the AD's and DC's for your own? (For example: on Ebonyblade & Spellbreaker)

But this is our perspective which comes down to 'constructive and competitive PvP + winning outnumbered fights' and not the words some players use as the cool 'AP farming'. There is no need to stack numbers, use siege equipment, insta-revive players or the use of barriers in order to compete inside Cyrodiil.

If you think this was a 'lucky win', you can search further on my channel to see that you can compete against even larger numbers.

this is so laughable...

12 with a group of 14 while one is dead unspecified where... at least learn to count your own groupmembers :P

Hexys

Tankqull wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

LegendaryChef wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

A better environment starts at yourself!

Weird that your saying this. A couple of nights ago we came across you in a group of roughly 20 reds (wabbajack?) at Roebeck farm on I think it was spell breaker? We were 12 btw when we swept you off the floor, so I am now awaiting your smart comment telling me that my group of 12 creates more lag than your group of 20, no?

You talk a lot on here about being a solo player and "small scaler" but the fact anyone even reads your endless amounts of hypocrisy and BS is beyond me, crying about zergs and surfing them when you get the chance senpai, one day will you teach me how to be a "solo support NB"?

@LegendaryChef let me back you up,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkk_ItCLTlA&feature=youtu.be

First of all our group size being half the size of your group @Lava_Croft is already a sign that this fight should end in a loss for my group and a win for yours. Besides being outnumbered, at 0:35 you can clearly see who is trying to take advantage of the so called: 'fall damage meteor bug'. the third point is found at 0:50 were you use a barrier to bring another big advantage towards your own group as the ultimate is not affected by the AoE caps.

You Kris should not QQ about anything. I wish we were EP at this moment just because all the Ebonheart players are found in the campaigns Azura's Star and Trueflame. How cool would it be to have all the AD's and DC's for your own? (For example: on Ebonyblade & Spellbreaker)

But this is our perspective which comes down to 'constructive and competitive PvP + winning outnumbered fights' and not the words some players use as the cool 'AP farming'. There is no need to stack numbers, use siege equipment, insta-revive players or the use of barriers in order to compete inside Cyrodiil.

If you think this was a 'lucky win', you can search further on my channel to see that you can compete against even larger numbers.

this is so laughable...

12 with a group of 14 while one is dead unspecified where... at least learn to count your own groupmembers :P

Learn to count? You kidding me? XD Our group holds 13 players in which Etaniel was streaming on twitch without being on teamspeak so he is missing all the coordination. You responding so short on a counting which you even fail makes you laughable.

Lava_Croft

So when it comes to your own group the counting matters, but when it comes to enemy groups any random number is fine.

That's very surprising!

Hexys

Lava_Croft wrote: »

So when it comes to your own group the counting matters, but when it comes to enemy groups any random number is fine.

That's very surprising!

Still waiting for some constructive feedback to make worth of the inner ego you represent on these forums.

Lava_Croft

Ego is for guild drama queens and raid leaders. I'm just a foot soldier and a Saxhleel one at that.

Confidence however, I don't lack.

Hexys

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Ego is for guild drama queens and raid leaders. I'm just a foot soldier and a Saxhleel one at that.

Confidence however, I don't lack.

About time to add Drama Queen in your signature then.

LegendaryChef

Lava_Croft wrote: »

I'm just really bad with processing ***, so that's your problem.

Weird you say that considering the amount of it that comes out your mouth

Tankqull

Hexys wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

LegendaryChef wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

A better environment starts at yourself!

Weird that your saying this. A couple of nights ago we came across you in a group of roughly 20 reds (wabbajack?) at Roebeck farm on I think it was spell breaker? We were 12 btw when we swept you off the floor, so I am now awaiting your smart comment telling me that my group of 12 creates more lag than your group of 20, no?

You talk a lot on here about being a solo player and "small scaler" but the fact anyone even reads your endless amounts of hypocrisy and BS is beyond me, crying about zergs and surfing them when you get the chance senpai, one day will you teach me how to be a "solo support NB"?

@LegendaryChef let me back you up,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkk_ItCLTlA&feature=youtu.be

First of all our group size being half the size of your group @Lava_Croft is already a sign that this fight should end in a loss for my group and a win for yours. Besides being outnumbered, at 0:35 you can clearly see who is trying to take advantage of the so called: 'fall damage meteor bug'. the third point is found at 0:50 were you use a barrier to bring another big advantage towards your own group as the ultimate is not affected by the AoE caps.

You Kris should not QQ about anything. I wish we were EP at this moment just because all the Ebonheart players are found in the campaigns Azura's Star and Trueflame. How cool would it be to have all the AD's and DC's for your own? (For example: on Ebonyblade & Spellbreaker)

But this is our perspective which comes down to 'constructive and competitive PvP + winning outnumbered fights' and not the words some players use as the cool 'AP farming'. There is no need to stack numbers, use siege equipment, insta-revive players or the use of barriers in order to compete inside Cyrodiil.

If you think this was a 'lucky win', you can search further on my channel to see that you can compete against even larger numbers.

this is so laughable...

12 with a group of 14 while one is dead unspecified where... at least learn to count your own groupmembers :P

Learn to count? You kidding me? XD Our group holds 13 players in which Etaniel was streaming on twitch without being on teamspeak so he is missing all the coordination. You responding so short on a counting which you even fail makes you laughable.

ok i see my bad
its you 12 + a camera man and a mascot VS tehm 4 man + a 16 man filming crew thats better ok

so you outzerged them at a 3:1 ratio..

LegendaryChef

Tankqull wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

LegendaryChef wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

A better environment starts at yourself!

Weird that your saying this. A couple of nights ago we came across you in a group of roughly 20 reds (wabbajack?) at Roebeck farm on I think it was spell breaker? We were 12 btw when we swept you off the floor, so I am now awaiting your smart comment telling me that my group of 12 creates more lag than your group of 20, no?

You talk a lot on here about being a solo player and "small scaler" but the fact anyone even reads your endless amounts of hypocrisy and BS is beyond me, crying about zergs and surfing them when you get the chance senpai, one day will you teach me how to be a "solo support NB"?

@LegendaryChef let me back you up,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkk_ItCLTlA&feature=youtu.be

First of all our group size being half the size of your group @Lava_Croft is already a sign that this fight should end in a loss for my group and a win for yours. Besides being outnumbered, at 0:35 you can clearly see who is trying to take advantage of the so called: 'fall damage meteor bug'. the third point is found at 0:50 were you use a barrier to bring another big advantage towards your own group as the ultimate is not affected by the AoE caps.

You Kris should not QQ about anything. I wish we were EP at this moment just because all the Ebonheart players are found in the campaigns Azura's Star and Trueflame. How cool would it be to have all the AD's and DC's for your own? (For example: on Ebonyblade & Spellbreaker)

But this is our perspective which comes down to 'constructive and competitive PvP + winning outnumbered fights' and not the words some players use as the cool 'AP farming'. There is no need to stack numbers, use siege equipment, insta-revive players or the use of barriers in order to compete inside Cyrodiil.

If you think this was a 'lucky win', you can search further on my channel to see that you can compete against even larger numbers.

this is so laughable...

12 with a group of 14 while one is dead unspecified where... at least learn to count your own groupmembers :P

Learn to count? You kidding me? XD Our group holds 13 players in which Etaniel was streaming on twitch without being on teamspeak so he is missing all the coordination. You responding so short on a counting which you even fail makes you laughable.

ok i see my bad
its you 12 + a camera man and a mascot VS tehm 4 man + a 16 man filming crew thats better ok

so you outzerged them at a 3:1 ratio..

I have came to the conclusion from your comments that my pet goldfish has a better IQ than you.

Drungly

Hexys wrote: »

About time to add Drama Queen in your signature then.

He can't help it. I saw him talking Dutch in this thread so he might actually be Dutch. Being arrogant is a typical Dutch trait. If he's Belgium however he's just overconfident.

Here's a nice paper that deals with personalities like this:

http://psych.colorado.edu/~vanboven/teaching/p7536_heurbias/p7536_readings/kruger_dunning.pdf

Jhunn

Drungly wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

About time to add Drama Queen in your signature then.

He can't help it. I saw him talking Dutch in this thread so he might actually be Dutch. Being arrogant is a typical Dutch trait. If he's Belgium however he's just overconfident.

Here's a nice paper that deals with personalities like this:

http://psych.colorado.edu/~vanboven/teaching/p7536_heurbias/p7536_readings/kruger_dunning.pdf

Guess where @Hexys is from

Lava_Croft

The amount of trying here warms my cold, cold heart.

Stay young!

Drungly

Jhunn wrote: »

Drungly wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

About time to add Drama Queen in your signature then.

He can't help it. I saw him talking Dutch in this thread so he might actually be Dutch. Being arrogant is a typical Dutch trait. If he's Belgium however he's just overconfident.

Here's a nice paper that deals with personalities like this:

http://psych.colorado.edu/~vanboven/teaching/p7536_heurbias/p7536_readings/kruger_dunning.pdf

Guess where @Hexys is from

Guess where I am from. It takes one to know one.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Nice to see 4 DC raids working together in Roe this evening. GJ all involved 999 ping was achieved.

Berserkur

What, don't lie...dc only play small scale

Göttermutter

At first you must see the lights behind the stars, before you can take out a spirit out for your low senses, than a Dragon shows you maybe his wisdom, before that, you will ever be blind untill your hole live.
Also Servers get blinded by that, because they can not put on the memories they should, so better get on better spirits, who can carry on also thousands of lost souls, by taking them by the hands and let them fly away.

Lava_Croft

***, she found her way onto the forums.

AbraXuSeXile

Ayahla? Oh no.

Jhunn

The Dragon Mother is here!