ZOS - Will console disk version require a cdkey, or is used/renting a viable option?

driosketch · May 2015

Hmm, so the upside is you don't have to buy multiple copies for a household to have their own accounts, unless they want to play together. The downside is if the disk breaks or your friend loses it, you'll have to rebuy the game.

So wondering how they'll handle bans. Could someone repeatedly create accounts off the same disc? Well at least there's no zone chat to spam I guess.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

driosketch wrote: »

So wondering how they'll handle bans. Could someone repeatedly create accounts off the same disc? Well at least there's no zone chat to spam I guess.

Bans on console ban the gamer tag...

KrisButtar · May 2015

Well news is getting out

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/the_elder_scrolls_online/news/update_elder_scrolls_online_doesnt_require_a_cd_key_on_ps4_and_xbox_one_bethesda_clarifies.html

driosketch · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

driosketch wrote: »

So wondering how they'll handle bans. Could someone repeatedly create accounts off the same disc? Well at least there's no zone chat to spam I guess.

Bans on console ban the gamer tag...

Knowing nothing about how that works, how hard is it to just create a new gamer tag?

ZOS_AJ · May 2015

Rapscallion74 wrote: »

KrisButtar wrote: »

ZOS_GaryA wrote: »

Hey there everyone,

Thanks for your patience with this and for all of the additional questions. The information in the previous post was incorrect, and we have received further clarification on how the physical edition will work on the consoles.

The physical console version of The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited does not require a one-time game code. As with any other boxed PS4 / Xbox One game only the game disc is needed for verification.

Thanks for replying. The previous info was incorrect, so that mean it works like every other console game?

This is the real question. All they confirmed was that there was no CD key. Can this game be traded/lent to a friend/installed on multiple machines in the same household?

That is correct. No code is required and the game can be traded/lent to a friend just like any other console game.

Sorry for any confusion this might have caused.

Rosveen · May 2015

That's awesome for console players, but kinda sucks from the PC perspective, knowing that we're so limited when they can reuse the disk however many times they want.. Oh well.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

Rosveen wrote: »

That's awesome for console players, but kinda sucks from the PC perspective, knowing that we're so limited when they can reuse the disk however many times they want.. Oh well.

We have room. Come on over and test the waters

nastuug · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

That's awesome for console players, but kinda sucks from the PC perspective, knowing that we're so limited when they can reuse the disk however many times they want.. Oh well.

We have room. Come on over and test the waters

I think I would lose patience with the screaming children rather quickly...

Gidorick · May 2015

@ZOS_AJ, does the disk version require the disk to be in the drive to play?

nastuug · May 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

@ZOS_AJ, does the disk version require the disk to be in the drive to play?

Buy used game from Gamestop, install/create account, return w/in 7 days, continue playing...

Some can dream though.

Gidorick · May 2015

nastuug wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

@ZOS_AJ, does the disk version require the disk to be in the drive to play?

Buy used game from Gamestop, install/create account, return w/in 7 days, continue playing...

Some can dream though.

That's why I'm asking. I have the digital version already locked down.

nastuug · May 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

@ZOS_AJ, does the disk version require the disk to be in the drive to play?

Buy used game from Gamestop, install/create account, return w/in 7 days, continue playing...

Some can dream though.

That's why I'm asking. I have the digital version already locked down.

Is it still possible to mod consoles to play burnt/pirated discs? Could pose an issue if so.

ZOS_GaryA · May 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

@ZOS_AJ, does the disk version require the disk to be in the drive to play?

Yes.

Rosveen · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

That's awesome for console players, but kinda sucks from the PC perspective, knowing that we're so limited when they can reuse the disk however many times they want.. Oh well.

We have room. Come on over and test the waters

Thanks, but I'm happy on PC. Fun fact: I have a nasty case of social anxiety, lack of easy to use text chat (or any text chat at all, which you so relentlessly defended) would render ESO unplayable for me.

Zazaaji · May 2015

Rosveen wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

That's awesome for console players, but kinda sucks from the PC perspective, knowing that we're so limited when they can reuse the disk however many times they want.. Oh well.

We have room. Come on over and test the waters

Thanks, but I'm happy on PC. Fun fact: I have a nasty case of social anxiety, the mandatory voice chat you so relentlessly defended would render ESO unplayable for me.

Still unknown how good and exactly what the radial chat text menu options are. I'm hoping for something good, like custom messages even.
Plus, you could always stay on mute, and just listen to others.
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ZOS_AlanG · May 2015

Hi everyone, please remember that is is never acceptable to discuss media piracy on the forums. As per the forum rules, "We also do not permit discussion about the illegal distribution or use of copyrighted material, such as private game servers or pirated movies, music, and games."

Some posts have been removed.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

@ZOS_AJ, does the disk version require the disk to be in the drive to play?

On Xbox one the disc had to be in the drive unless you buy digital

Gidorick · May 2015

ZOS_GaryA wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

@ZOS_AJ, does the disk version require the disk to be in the drive to play?

Yes.

This seems appropriate. Thanks for the answer!

djnapstyb14_ESO · May 2015

So if i have xbox one digital emperial edition i can make an account on as many gamertags as are on my home machine or no?

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

So if i have xbox one digital emperial edition i can make an account on as many gamertags as are on my home machine or no?

Depends on you're Xbox one settings

If you're set up to share on the home console...yes just like any other Xbox One game

djnapstyb14_ESO · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

So if i have xbox one digital emperial edition i can make an account on as many gamertags as are on my home machine or no?

Depends on you're Xbox one settings

If you're set up to share on the home console...yes just like any other Xbox One game

So that means unlimited free character slots then right? I think i read that you can have 250 gamertags set to home on 1 machine.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

So if i have xbox one digital emperial edition i can make an account on as many gamertags as are on my home machine or no?

Depends on you're Xbox one settings

If you're set up to share on the home console...yes just like any other Xbox One game

So that means unlimited free character slots then right? I think i read that you can have 250 gamertags set to home on 1 machine.

Thats not what it means....you might want to read up using the support pages on this site before doing so

Edit: read up on your respective console too. Don't get banned trying to game the system

djnapstyb14_ESO · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

So if i have xbox one digital emperial edition i can make an account on as many gamertags as are on my home machine or no?

Depends on you're Xbox one settings

If you're set up to share on the home console...yes just like any other Xbox One game

So that means unlimited free character slots then right? I think i read that you can have 250 gamertags set to home on 1 machine.

Thats not what it means....you might want to read up using the support pages on this site before doing so

Edit: read up on your respective console too. Don't get banned trying to game the system

im not planning on doing this myself. I am mainly wondering if i need to buy a second copy (5th copy total to date) of the game for my gf to have an account on our xbox. Ive been reading the xbox site tho and cant find anything that would prevent people from having as many gamertags as they want tho...

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

So if i have xbox one digital emperial edition i can make an account on as many gamertags as are on my home machine or no?

Depends on you're Xbox one settings

If you're set up to share on the home console...yes just like any other Xbox One game

So that means unlimited free character slots then right? I think i read that you can have 250 gamertags set to home on 1 machine.

Thats not what it means....you might want to read up using the support pages on this site before doing so

Edit: read up on your respective console too. Don't get banned trying to game the system

im not planning on doing this myself. I am mainly wondering if i need to buy a second copy (5th copy total to date) of the game for my gf to have an account on our xbox. Ive been reading the xbox site tho and cant find anything that would prevent people from having as many gamertags as they want tho...

-Which console are you on?
-Are you the primary account or are you a child of a parents account (Xbox)?
-Will you have a disc or digital?
-which version did you buy?
-check the guidelines on this site and your respective console about "exploit" or "personal gain"
-check your console info on "sharing" capabilities

Just be smart and don't let anything get you banned

djnapstyb14_ESO · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

So if i have xbox one digital emperial edition i can make an account on as many gamertags as are on my home machine or no?

Depends on you're Xbox one settings

If you're set up to share on the home console...yes just like any other Xbox One game

So that means unlimited free character slots then right? I think i read that you can have 250 gamertags set to home on 1 machine.

Thats not what it means....you might want to read up using the support pages on this site before doing so

Edit: read up on your respective console too. Don't get banned trying to game the system

im not planning on doing this myself. I am mainly wondering if i need to buy a second copy (5th copy total to date) of the game for my gf to have an account on our xbox. Ive been reading the xbox site tho and cant find anything that would prevent people from having as many gamertags as they want tho...

-Which console are you on?
-Are you the primary account or are you a child of a parents account (Xbox)?
-Will you have a disc or digital?
-which version did you buy?
-check the guidelines on this site and your respective console about "exploit" or "personal gain"
-check your console info on "sharing" capabilities

Just be smart and don't let anything get you banned

ok yeah, that is the other interesting part of the question because I bought the console transfer. so...

-Which console are you on? XBOX ONE
-Are you the primary account or are you a child of a parents account (Xbox)? I am the primary account
-Will you have a disc or digital? Digital
-which version did you buy? imperial edition $20 console transfer
-check the guidelines on this site and your respective console about "exploit" or "personal gain" - i cant find this addressed specifically
-check your console info on "sharing" capabilities - I have live gold and everything is shared with all (both) of the profiles on the system

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

So if i have xbox one digital emperial edition i can make an account on as many gamertags as are on my home machine or no?

Depends on you're Xbox one settings

If you're set up to share on the home console...yes just like any other Xbox One game

So that means unlimited free character slots then right? I think i read that you can have 250 gamertags set to home on 1 machine.

Thats not what it means....you might want to read up using the support pages on this site before doing so

Edit: read up on your respective console too. Don't get banned trying to game the system

im not planning on doing this myself. I am mainly wondering if i need to buy a second copy (5th copy total to date) of the game for my gf to have an account on our xbox. Ive been reading the xbox site tho and cant find anything that would prevent people from having as many gamertags as they want tho...

-Which console are you on?
-Are you the primary account or are you a child of a parents account (Xbox)?
-Will you have a disc or digital?
-which version did you buy?
-check the guidelines on this site and your respective console about "exploit" or "personal gain"
-check your console info on "sharing" capabilities

Just be smart and don't let anything get you banned

ok yeah, that is the other interesting part of the question because I bought the console transfer. so...

-Which console are you on? XBOX ONE
-Are you the primary account or are you a child of a parents account (Xbox)? I am the primary account
-Will you have a disc or digital? Digital
-which version did you buy? imperial edition $20 console transfer
-check the guidelines on this site and your respective console about "exploit" or "personal gain" - i cant find this addressed specifically
-check your console info on "sharing" capabilities - I have live gold and everything is shared with all (both) of the profiles on the system

Specific to the "exploit section"
Here- http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/codeofconduct

F. Cheating & Tampering

Do not cheat in a game unless the developer has deliberately enabled cheats.
Do not use unauthorized hardware or modifications.
Do not exploit game vulnerabilities or glitches.
Do not make unauthorized modifications to your account profile or its contents, including but not limited to tenure, Avatar, saved games, Gamerscore, or achievements.
Do not intentionally play with someone who is using unauthorized software or methods.
Do not play any illegitimately obtained software or pirated games.

djnapstyb14_ESO · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

So if i have xbox one digital emperial edition i can make an account on as many gamertags as are on my home machine or no?

Depends on you're Xbox one settings

If you're set up to share on the home console...yes just like any other Xbox One game

So that means unlimited free character slots then right? I think i read that you can have 250 gamertags set to home on 1 machine.

Thats not what it means....you might want to read up using the support pages on this site before doing so

Edit: read up on your respective console too. Don't get banned trying to game the system

im not planning on doing this myself. I am mainly wondering if i need to buy a second copy (5th copy total to date) of the game for my gf to have an account on our xbox. Ive been reading the xbox site tho and cant find anything that would prevent people from having as many gamertags as they want tho...

-Which console are you on?
-Are you the primary account or are you a child of a parents account (Xbox)?
-Will you have a disc or digital?
-which version did you buy?
-check the guidelines on this site and your respective console about "exploit" or "personal gain"
-check your console info on "sharing" capabilities

Just be smart and don't let anything get you banned

ok yeah, that is the other interesting part of the question because I bought the console transfer. so...

-Which console are you on? XBOX ONE
-Are you the primary account or are you a child of a parents account (Xbox)? I am the primary account
-Will you have a disc or digital? Digital
-which version did you buy? imperial edition $20 console transfer
-check the guidelines on this site and your respective console about "exploit" or "personal gain" - i cant find this addressed specifically
-check your console info on "sharing" capabilities - I have live gold and everything is shared with all (both) of the profiles on the system

Specific to the "exploit section"
Here- http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/codeofconduct

F. Cheating & Tampering

Do not cheat in a game unless the developer has deliberately enabled cheats.
Do not use unauthorized hardware or modifications.
Do not exploit game vulnerabilities or glitches.
Do not make unauthorized modifications to your account profile or its contents, including but not limited to tenure, Avatar, saved games, Gamerscore, or achievements.
Do not intentionally play with someone who is using unauthorized software or methods.
Do not play any illegitimately obtained software or pirated games.

again i personally have no desire to actually make multiple accounts for myself. I have 4 VR toons and 2 open slots still after a year lol. but I do know people who have more than one gamertag that they play with on their xbox. is it cheating if they want to make 2 accounts for themselves? im just curious what the policy is.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

So if i have xbox one digital emperial edition i can make an account on as many gamertags as are on my home machine or no?

Depends on you're Xbox one settings

If you're set up to share on the home console...yes just like any other Xbox One game

So that means unlimited free character slots then right? I think i read that you can have 250 gamertags set to home on 1 machine.

Thats not what it means....you might want to read up using the support pages on this site before doing so

Edit: read up on your respective console too. Don't get banned trying to game the system

im not planning on doing this myself. I am mainly wondering if i need to buy a second copy (5th copy total to date) of the game for my gf to have an account on our xbox. Ive been reading the xbox site tho and cant find anything that would prevent people from having as many gamertags as they want tho...

-Which console are you on?
-Are you the primary account or are you a child of a parents account (Xbox)?
-Will you have a disc or digital?
-which version did you buy?
-check the guidelines on this site and your respective console about "exploit" or "personal gain"
-check your console info on "sharing" capabilities

Just be smart and don't let anything get you banned

ok yeah, that is the other interesting part of the question because I bought the console transfer. so...

-Which console are you on? XBOX ONE
-Are you the primary account or are you a child of a parents account (Xbox)? I am the primary account
-Will you have a disc or digital? Digital
-which version did you buy? imperial edition $20 console transfer
-check the guidelines on this site and your respective console about "exploit" or "personal gain" - i cant find this addressed specifically
-check your console info on "sharing" capabilities - I have live gold and everything is shared with all (both) of the profiles on the system

Specific to the "exploit section"
Here- http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/codeofconduct

F. Cheating & Tampering

Do not cheat in a game unless the developer has deliberately enabled cheats.
Do not use unauthorized hardware or modifications.
Do not exploit game vulnerabilities or glitches.
Do not make unauthorized modifications to your account profile or its contents, including but not limited to tenure, Avatar, saved games, Gamerscore, or achievements.
Do not intentionally play with someone who is using unauthorized software or methods.
Do not play any illegitimately obtained software or pirated games.

again i personally have no desire to actually make multiple accounts for myself. I have 4 VR toons and 2 open slots still after a year lol. but I do know people who have more than one gamertag that they play with on their xbox. is it cheating if they want to make 2 accounts for themselves? im just curious what the policy is.

It's on that page....if you're not familiar with the page it's definitely worth reading top to bottom.
A good rule of thumb is one account per human and don't share your account with anyone, even family (cause you can share games and xbl gold with them)

djnapstyb14_ESO · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

djnapstyb14_ESO wrote: »

So if i have xbox one digital emperial edition i can make an account on as many gamertags as are on my home machine or no?

Depends on you're Xbox one settings

If you're set up to share on the home console...yes just like any other Xbox One game

So that means unlimited free character slots then right? I think i read that you can have 250 gamertags set to home on 1 machine.

Thats not what it means....you might want to read up using the support pages on this site before doing so

Edit: read up on your respective console too. Don't get banned trying to game the system

im not planning on doing this myself. I am mainly wondering if i need to buy a second copy (5th copy total to date) of the game for my gf to have an account on our xbox. Ive been reading the xbox site tho and cant find anything that would prevent people from having as many gamertags as they want tho...

-Which console are you on?
-Are you the primary account or are you a child of a parents account (Xbox)?
-Will you have a disc or digital?
-which version did you buy?
-check the guidelines on this site and your respective console about "exploit" or "personal gain"
-check your console info on "sharing" capabilities

Just be smart and don't let anything get you banned

ok yeah, that is the other interesting part of the question because I bought the console transfer. so...

-Which console are you on? XBOX ONE
-Are you the primary account or are you a child of a parents account (Xbox)? I am the primary account
-Will you have a disc or digital? Digital
-which version did you buy? imperial edition $20 console transfer
-check the guidelines on this site and your respective console about "exploit" or "personal gain" - i cant find this addressed specifically
-check your console info on "sharing" capabilities - I have live gold and everything is shared with all (both) of the profiles on the system

Specific to the "exploit section"
Here- http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/codeofconduct

F. Cheating & Tampering

Do not cheat in a game unless the developer has deliberately enabled cheats.
Do not use unauthorized hardware or modifications.
Do not exploit game vulnerabilities or glitches.
Do not make unauthorized modifications to your account profile or its contents, including but not limited to tenure, Avatar, saved games, Gamerscore, or achievements.
Do not intentionally play with someone who is using unauthorized software or methods.
Do not play any illegitimately obtained software or pirated games.

again i personally have no desire to actually make multiple accounts for myself. I have 4 VR toons and 2 open slots still after a year lol. but I do know people who have more than one gamertag that they play with on their xbox. is it cheating if they want to make 2 accounts for themselves? im just curious what the policy is.

It's on that page....if you're not familiar with the page it's definitely worth reading top to bottom.
A good rule of thumb is one account per human and don't share your account with anyone, even family (cause you can share games and xbl gold with them)

yup i read all of that before i asked the original question. i cant find anything anywhere that says one gamertag per human still.
im not trying to beat this in to the ground, but i am still curious. its obvious that there are some possible exploits with creating multiple gamertags that will probably have to be addressed at some point. is it cheating or violating ToS tho if someone wants to make a 9th character and an account on their guest gamertag?