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Please fix Nirnhoned armor

Domander
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It's already bad enough being magicka, but nirnhoned stacked players just makes it so unbalanced.

Waiting until the next update is just insulting.
  • Huntler
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    Edit out that link, linking your own posts to get it views is against the TOS for the forums... they will get on your case about it.
  • Domander
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    Huntler wrote: »
    Edit out that link, linking your own posts to get it views is against the TOS for the forums... they will get on your case about it.

    Thanks for the heads up, I could see them doing that....even though I couldn't care less about post views.
  • EskimoBrother
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    agreed


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  • Huntler
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    Domander wrote: »
    Huntler wrote: »
    Edit out that link, linking your own posts to get it views is against the TOS for the forums... they will get on your case about it.

    Thanks for the heads up, I could see them doing that....even though I couldn't care less about post views.

    No worries, just don't want it to lead to a locked thread :). And yes, waiting till June for this is beyond messed up.
  • Erock25
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    I think even June is optimistic. June is console release and Gina said no changes will be made until AFTER console release. It will be at least a month where they are completely deadlocked fixing console issues after launch before they can even think about touching the rest of the game.
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  • Oughash
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    Nirn armor is borked. Needs to be fixed, asap.
  • Sythias
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    Could someone elucidate the issue with nirnhorned? I currently run three pieces and have around 24k spell resist. I still get nuked for 15k on occasion.
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  • Huntler
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    Sythias wrote: »
    Could someone elucidate the issue with nirnhorned? I currently run three pieces and have around 24k spell resist. I still get nuked for 15k on occasion.

    1. It doesn't make you immune to magicka damage
    2. 24k is nothing as most magicka users will likely have a minimum of 10k penetration, closer to 20k
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    LOL at the usage of the word "fixed".

    "NERFED" is the word you're looking for. And if it actually happens, get ready for the deluge of QQ rants from players who wasted 15,000 G per armor piece and the crafters who spent weeks or months researching that 9th trait.
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  • DezIsDead
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    LOL at the usage of the word "fixed".

    "NERFED" is the word you're looking for. And if it actually happens, get ready for the deluge of QQ rants from players who wasted 15,000 G per armor piece and the crafters who spent weeks or months researching that 9th trait.

    I don't think it qualifies as a nerf when they said that it's currently not working as intended. That would mean fixing it would indeed be a fix not a nerf. Also screw the FOTM guru's who ZOMG gotta have Nirn to be LEET. It's seriously not a necessity like impen was in 1.5.
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  • Cody
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    This crap will remain in place for the next three months.

    /sigh

    oh well, it is what it is.
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    DezIsDead wrote: »
    LOL at the usage of the word "fixed".

    "NERFED" is the word you're looking for. And if it actually happens, get ready for the deluge of QQ rants from players who wasted 15,000 G per armor piece and the crafters who spent weeks or months researching that 9th trait.

    I don't think it qualifies as a nerf when they said that it's currently not working as intended. That would mean fixing it would indeed be a fix not a nerf. Also screw the FOTM guru's who ZOMG gotta have Nirn to be LEET. It's seriously not a necessity like impen was in 1.5.

    I know what ZoS said about it, but their statement was somewhat contradicted by the facts. The facts are that the spell resistance buff from Nirnhoned has been measured to be pretty close to what is described by the in-game tooltip. I'm pretty sure that what ZoS means by "unintended" in this case is that they didn't intend to hear a load of grief about Nirnhoned armor every day from PvP whiners.
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  • Sythias
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    Huntler wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Could someone elucidate the issue with nirnhorned? I currently run three pieces and have around 24k spell resist. I still get nuked for 15k on occasion.

    1. It doesn't make you immune to magicka damage
    2. 24k is nothing as most magicka users will likely have a minimum of 10k penetration, closer to 20k

    Thanks for responding - Yeah I'm aware it's not a lot nor does it make me immune to magicka damage.

    Is the problem when people are stacking up to cap?
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  • Cody
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    Sythias wrote: »
    Huntler wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Could someone elucidate the issue with nirnhorned? I currently run three pieces and have around 24k spell resist. I still get nuked for 15k on occasion.

    1. It doesn't make you immune to magicka damage
    2. 24k is nothing as most magicka users will likely have a minimum of 10k penetration, closer to 20k

    Thanks for responding - Yeah I'm aware it's not a lot nor does it make me immune to magicka damage.

    Is the problem when people are stacking up to cap?

    yes
  • Sythias
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    Cody wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Huntler wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Could someone elucidate the issue with nirnhorned? I currently run three pieces and have around 24k spell resist. I still get nuked for 15k on occasion.

    1. It doesn't make you immune to magicka damage
    2. 24k is nothing as most magicka users will likely have a minimum of 10k penetration, closer to 20k

    Thanks for responding - Yeah I'm aware it's not a lot nor does it make me immune to magicka damage.

    Is the problem when people are stacking up to cap?

    yes

    Perhaps the cap is too high then. Like I said it feels like almost no difference even with 3 pieces of legendary nirn.
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    Sythias wrote: »
    Cody wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Huntler wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Could someone elucidate the issue with nirnhorned? I currently run three pieces and have around 24k spell resist. I still get nuked for 15k on occasion.

    1. It doesn't make you immune to magicka damage
    2. 24k is nothing as most magicka users will likely have a minimum of 10k penetration, closer to 20k

    Thanks for responding - Yeah I'm aware it's not a lot nor does it make me immune to magicka damage.

    Is the problem when people are stacking up to cap?

    yes

    Perhaps the cap is too high then. Like I said it feels like almost no difference even with 3 pieces of legendary nirn.
    You can't say that when you have no control numbers against the same person on you in non nirn gear to compare to.

    If the highest you're getting hit for is 15k in 3 nirn, that's a very significant reduction compared to the average high end of 20k+ before ppl all converted to nirn.
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Cody wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Huntler wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Could someone elucidate the issue with nirnhorned? I currently run three pieces and have around 24k spell resist. I still get nuked for 15k on occasion.

    1. It doesn't make you immune to magicka damage
    2. 24k is nothing as most magicka users will likely have a minimum of 10k penetration, closer to 20k

    Thanks for responding - Yeah I'm aware it's not a lot nor does it make me immune to magicka damage.

    Is the problem when people are stacking up to cap?

    yes

    Perhaps the cap is too high then. Like I said it feels like almost no difference even with 3 pieces of legendary nirn.
    You can't say that when you have no control numbers against the same person on you in non nirn gear to compare to.

    If the highest you're getting hit for is 15k in 3 nirn, that's a very significant reduction compared to the average high end of 20k+ before ppl all converted to nirn.

    So its okay for you to do 20k+ dmg? I mean most of the ppl have about 20k life. As a stamina NB i would be okay with something like nirnhoned for armor. The dmg is out of control with 1.6
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    LOL at the usage of the word "fixed".

    "NERFED" is the word you're looking for. And if it actually happens, get ready for the deluge of QQ rants from players who wasted 15,000 G per armor piece and the crafters who spent weeks or months researching that 9th trait.

    Actually I think Fixed is actually accurate considering the existing functionality of Nirnhoned is bugged.

    And it only took me 2 weeks to research 7 pieces of Nirnhoned heavy armor and I've made most of my investment cost back marking up crafted pieces 5K over my mat cost. Who really cares what someone spent for the research? Gold is pointless in this game anyways. You act like that time someone had to wait for their 9th trait to be complete actually has value. there are thousands of players with all 9 traits researched on everything, it doesn't mean a thing.
    Sythias wrote: »
    Cody wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Huntler wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Could someone elucidate the issue with nirnhorned? I currently run three pieces and have around 24k spell resist. I still get nuked for 15k on occasion.

    1. It doesn't make you immune to magicka damage
    2. 24k is nothing as most magicka users will likely have a minimum of 10k penetration, closer to 20k

    Thanks for responding - Yeah I'm aware it's not a lot nor does it make me immune to magicka damage.

    Is the problem when people are stacking up to cap?

    yes

    Perhaps the cap is too high then. Like I said it feels like almost no difference even with 3 pieces of legendary nirn.

    I noticed an immediate an quite noticeable benefit by switching to 3 pieces of Nirnhoned. When the Jesus Beam or that fragment/wrath execute hit your health bar, Nirnhoned is the difference between life/death.
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  • Domander
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    LOL at the usage of the word "fixed".

    "NERFED" is the word you're looking for. And if it actually happens, get ready for the deluge of QQ rants from players who wasted 15,000 G per armor piece and the crafters who spent weeks or months researching that 9th trait.

    It's not like it wont still increase spell resistance, it will just be at a balanced level, and I hope they add a similar trait just for Armor

    If someone is only using it to take advantage then..... well deserved.
  • BrassRazoo
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    Buff magic users!
  • Teargrants
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    Iyas wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Cody wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Huntler wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Could someone elucidate the issue with nirnhorned? I currently run three pieces and have around 24k spell resist. I still get nuked for 15k on occasion.

    1. It doesn't make you immune to magicka damage
    2. 24k is nothing as most magicka users will likely have a minimum of 10k penetration, closer to 20k

    Thanks for responding - Yeah I'm aware it's not a lot nor does it make me immune to magicka damage.

    Is the problem when people are stacking up to cap?

    yes

    Perhaps the cap is too high then. Like I said it feels like almost no difference even with 3 pieces of legendary nirn.
    You can't say that when you have no control numbers against the same person on you in non nirn gear to compare to.

    If the highest you're getting hit for is 15k in 3 nirn, that's a very significant reduction compared to the average high end of 20k+ before ppl all converted to nirn.

    So its okay for you to do 20k+ dmg? I mean most of the ppl have about 20k life. As a stamina NB i would be okay with something like nirnhoned for armor. The dmg is out of control with 1.6
    It's as ok for me to do 20k dmg as it is for ppl to snipe me for 19k or one shot me w/ wrecking blow if you wanna go down that rout.

    Damage can be toned down sure, but it shouldn't be through an armor trait that lets you get 50% passive mitigation for free basically, and anyone who's not running it is just up *** creek.
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  • Iyas
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    Never got the mighty 19 k snipe or 20k WB. Guess im lucky. I dont think 17k armor make such a difference.
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    Another thread about nirn armor? ZOS already said they will nerf it next big update (june).
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    when is the final version of the game with polish and no unplayable bugs ? has zeni given us a release date yet for pc version ?
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    Cinbri wrote: »
    Another thread about nirn armor? ZOS already said they will nerf it next big update (june).

    June is NOT the next big update. Its console release. That's it. We got MONTHS and MONTHS to go still.

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    Teargrants wrote: »
    Iyas wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Cody wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Huntler wrote: »
    Sythias wrote: »
    Could someone elucidate the issue with nirnhorned? I currently run three pieces and have around 24k spell resist. I still get nuked for 15k on occasion.

    1. It doesn't make you immune to magicka damage
    2. 24k is nothing as most magicka users will likely have a minimum of 10k penetration, closer to 20k

    Thanks for responding - Yeah I'm aware it's not a lot nor does it make me immune to magicka damage.

    Is the problem when people are stacking up to cap?

    yes

    Perhaps the cap is too high then. Like I said it feels like almost no difference even with 3 pieces of legendary nirn.
    You can't say that when you have no control numbers against the same person on you in non nirn gear to compare to.

    If the highest you're getting hit for is 15k in 3 nirn, that's a very significant reduction compared to the average high end of 20k+ before ppl all converted to nirn.

    So its okay for you to do 20k+ dmg? I mean most of the ppl have about 20k life. As a stamina NB i would be okay with something like nirnhoned for armor. The dmg is out of control with 1.6
    It's as ok for me to do 20k dmg as it is for ppl to snipe me for 19k or one shot me w/ wrecking blow if you wanna go down that rout.

    Damage can be toned down sure, but it shouldn't be through an armor trait that lets you get 50% passive mitigation for free basically, and anyone who's not running it is just up *** creek.

    Neither are ok, all dmg should be toned down
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