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why shield stacking damages the whole meta

  • Ezareth
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    @Ezareth yeah exactly, my point was to try and emphasize for all other sorcs to not waste any time trying to push their magicka pool so high because it's totally useless. As is the setup in duels, totally useless in 95% of the time. :)

    45K is totally possible with necro set and a couple of 'increase max magicka' abilities, but like I said, the build is so dull and useless you'd have to be totally brain dead to play that for more than an hour.

    Yeah I suggested in another thread that I create some visible and human readable graphs for people to explain how scaling works in this game. It's almost as if people think increasing your magicka by 5K increases your shields by 5K.
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  • LegendaryMage
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    They're just not informed I guess, you should make it when you have the time. Max magicka was only useful for me with the last tweak I made when I lost 170 or so spell damage and exchanged that for another 1800+ pool and slightly better visuals from the Cyrolight shoulder/hat set. :)

    I don't use entropy or spell power pots very often so I'm not too concerned about stacking spell damage through the roof, my fighting style is a bit different.
    Edited by LegendaryMage on May 4, 2015 3:22PM
  • Snit
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    It's almost as if people think increasing your magicka by 5K increases your shields by 5K.

    Yesterday, an officer in one of my guilds explained to me that, if I would build my sorc 'right,' my Hardened Ward would be 60k. I was unable to convince him otherwise.

    There is a fair bit of misinformation floating around.
    Snit AD Sorc
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  • Preyfar
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    Cody wrote: »
    People stack shields because of the insane damage numbers. 20K wrecking blows, 15K lethal arrows while in all epic/legendary heavy/medium armor, 30K meteors.... all that stuff. It has made shield stack/spam a must have to be able to compete. Even gank/stealth oriented builds are having a hard time fighting against it.
    As a nightblade, my issues is not with shieldstackers. I can handle them. It's a challenge, but I can do so. My issue is that when I break their shields and get their health low, they bolt escape 10+ times and jump across the entire battle field. Maybe I can ambush/teleport strike them the first jump, but if I don't get in range they're gone.

    Endless Bolt Escapes is a huge problem and people can do it seemingly endlessly.

  • Ifthir_ESO
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    It might be possible to hit 50k magicka, you'd need something like Breton nigjtblade or sorc with necropotence set though.

    sorc emp right now has 75k+
  • Ezareth
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    Preyfar wrote: »
    Cody wrote: »
    People stack shields because of the insane damage numbers. 20K wrecking blows, 15K lethal arrows while in all epic/legendary heavy/medium armor, 30K meteors.... all that stuff. It has made shield stack/spam a must have to be able to compete. Even gank/stealth oriented builds are having a hard time fighting against it.
    As a nightblade, my issues is not with shieldstackers. I can handle them. It's a challenge, but I can do so. My issue is that when I break their shields and get their health low, they bolt escape 10+ times and jump across the entire battle field. Maybe I can ambush/teleport strike them the first jump, but if I don't get in range they're gone.

    Endless Bolt Escapes is a huge problem and people can do it seemingly endlessly.

    As someone who has played with Bolt Escape for over a year now I know exactly how Bolt escape works and exactly what to do to counter sorcs using it. My level 24 NB has had zero problems Crit charge-rush spamming every Bolt Escape sorc in Blackwater blade I've come across (and killing them unless they run through the middle of a zerg a couple hops away). The 22 yard range on gap closers gives you a split second to target and follow any sorc spamming bolt escape. With skill and understanding of the mechanics of course. Note: I've never used a gap closer or melee weapon ability in my entirety of ESO playing and it took me literally 10 minutes to become an expert in it in every situation other than landing every wrecking blow I fire which took a little longer.

    The best thing I would suggest to you is roll a sorc and get bolt escape and play with it in PvP. You'll learn as much about sorcs and their weakneses as I learned about nightblades and theirs by rolling one.
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    It might be possible to hit 50k magicka, you'd need something like Breton nigjtblade or sorc with necropotence set though.

    sorc emp right now has 75k+

    +70% Magicka bonus will do that to anyone stacking Magicka.

    He was talking about non-emps, and 50K still isn't possible from anything I've seen without being Emp.
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  • Bodycounter
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    Please don't make purges happen. I know them from other games and coordinated teams will have a few people just stupidly spamming purge. Every random group, smaller group or just less coordinated group won't stand any chance then. Purge would need such high costs or negative side effects, that most people would consider it underpowered.

    Every healer for example, that is not a templar, is based around shields and hots. Useless against spampurgers. You want to play a dot build? Wont happen against spampurging. Oh, and you're a tank, that needs his self buffs? Too bad, spampurged. At best, make it possible to purge potion buffs.

    Yes, i am overexegerating, but i made bad experience with purge.
  • OtarTheMad
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    Preyfar wrote: »
    Cody wrote: »
    People stack shields because of the insane damage numbers. 20K wrecking blows, 15K lethal arrows while in all epic/legendary heavy/medium armor, 30K meteors.... all that stuff. It has made shield stack/spam a must have to be able to compete. Even gank/stealth oriented builds are having a hard time fighting against it.
    As a nightblade, my issues is not with shieldstackers. I can handle them. It's a challenge, but I can do so. My issue is that when I break their shields and get their health low, they bolt escape 10+ times and jump across the entire battle field. Maybe I can ambush/teleport strike them the first jump, but if I don't get in range they're gone.

    Endless Bolt Escapes is a huge problem and people can do it seemingly endlessly.

    Like Ezareth I too don't have much of a problem countering Bolt Escape spammers mainly because I have a Sorc. Easiest way to find out how to counter an ability or class is to either join a dueling guild and just face that class until you get it or just make another character and have them be that class. I have one of each class as a vet rank and I think I better understand each class for it.

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