How do you feel about the changes to Redguard and Orc armor designs

Schnuffles

I like none of the changes.

Bring Options BACK. I dont care if i have to PAY for the motif to do so but i want my options BACK

Lynx7386

I like the new redguard medium changes, but could've done without the rest. I miss the old orc female heavy armor boob window.

newtinmpls

My orcs hated the boob window, but others liked it.

I just can't wrap my brain around the thinking in the replacing of the redgard light. The new stuff is so "heavily textured" that it doesn't go with any other motif; it's just plain ugly and doesn't fit with any of the other game art.

The redgard medium went from moderatly attractive (it was never going to be my favorite) to looking like a cheap polyester suit from walmart with a faux leather (yes, read: plastic) oversized bib. Oh and the seams on the tunic are uneven, and the pants are permanently wrinkled.

Lynx7386

The redgard medium went from moderatly attractive (it was never going to be my favorite) to looking like a cheap polyester suit from walmart with a faux leather (yes, read: plastic) oversized bib. Oh and the seams on the tunic are uneven, and the pants are permanently wrinkled.

I dont use the chest, helm, or legs for the redguard medium armor, but I like the new gauntlets/boots/shoulders. They rotated the armor plating on the boots and gauntlets to make more sense, and the shoulders look more layered now.

Schnuffles

I like none of the changes.

I'm sick of people saying revealing armor doesnt belong in an elder scrolls game. These people have obviously not done ANY research on the matter. Elder scrolls has featured TOPLESS women in previous games, and even in recent games armor such as the Forsworn set (see images below) have always been available to the player should they choose to wear it. Allowing players options for such things would not take away another players option to not partake in lore appropriate revealing armor. The game was never intended for children as a few of you keep saying its for kids and adults, NO, it is rated M for MATURE (ADULT) audiences and as an adult creature sexuality is in fact a factor in everyday life. If your children are playing it it is because you consented to allowing them to see this content when you purchased it for them. This is not the fault of the company but the fault of the parent.

Armor in a videogame also does not have to adhere to strict realism as armor and weapons somehow magically fall from mudcrabs and plants imbued with magical traits somehow already enchanted into them. How is ANY of that realistic?
On a side note this game is hardly even CANON, magical frost horses also don't exist in the game but they are there so enlighten me how adding the already pre-existing armor choices back into the game would somehow be game breaking?

Bethesda created this game and all the lore and characters within it, this includes the armor and clothing. You saying they are unwelcome additions or lore breaking is just infact you breaking the lore and rewriting it to fit your own ideals.

Forsworn armor example

Saviors hide example

BenLocoDete

ElfFromSpace wrote: »

Seadrake Disguise Change by BROTHER_NUMSIE


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I swear this last pic looks like an argonian took straight from a Disney movie! Like a companion to the main character, someone named Carl.

The adventures of Carl in the land of happy swamps.

Deadfinger6

I wish to make "Boob Window" an official technical term now.

ElfFromSpace

I like the new textures/sharpened lines, but do not like many of the design changes

I'm happy that they've FINALLY released a few costumes (for crowns only) that at least sort of take the place of the old redguard armors. However.... I still hate seeing the new redguard armors on all those poor NPCs

LiquidSchwartz

I like the new textures/sharpened lines, but do not like many of the design changes

M rated game with the qualities of E rating

Thevampirenight

I like none of the changes.

They need to change them back to the older models, seriously.
The older version looks a million percent better then the newer design.
Males should have male armors, Females should have female armor designs.
They need to use both female model and male model, they lose players by doing the sexist only useing male model thing.
Many like to play female toons, males and females, most males most likly play female toons while females will play male toons in real life.
A lot of there player base is male while there is also females in the player base.
They need to reverse the changes they made to the redguard and orc modifs.

Vangy

I like the new textures/sharpened lines, but do not like many of the design changes

This is what we get from those people who want "real and practical armours" who called the waahmbulance. I have decided to protest and destroy all their immuhrsion by doing battle in either sand-kissed salwar or whisperweft gala.

Join the revolution. Don a sand-kissed salwar/whisperweft gala to battle. RAWRRRR~

SlayerTheDragon

I like none of the changes.

Why are they nerfing Females?

Yusuf

I thought this was a serious thread, then I realized this was about boobs.

Go ahead kids, this is the internet

Obliterate

I don't wear these armors, and or don't care that much about armor design

Yusuf wrote: »

I thought this was a serious thread, then I realized this was about boobs.

Go ahead kids, this is the internet

I agree.

I guess some people look for different things in a game, imo I couldn't care less whether a characters breasts/chest are exposed or not seriously, your view of the game is from the characters back and the new armor doesn't look half bad anyway. They should be focusing on performance and not re-instating your cleavage

Kainos98

I like the new textures/sharpened lines, but do not like many of the design changes

I don't see the point of allowing scars and tattoos to be used on our characters if all the gear in the game is just gonna cover it up without any optional styles. The Crown Store costumes is not the answer to this. No one wants to run around looking like the same moron next to you wearing exactly the same costume and same color. For those who cry about not allowing players to wear "skimpy" clothing" well, sex appeal sells and ZOS is here to make money, so get it over it. I guess people gonna whine about the new recent female costumes added to the CS too? lol "It shows skin!!!! oh gawd!" ffs....

By the way, performance is the least of your worries if a lot players leave the game because they are unhappy with it, plain and simple.

Lysette

Dudis wrote: »

I don't mind some of the changes... This for example looks way better now and it has nothing to do with pixelated boobs.

I would like the left one as top of an evening dress, but for an armor I think the right one is far more suitable. Especially for a thief, who does not want her shiny light skin reflect light like a beacon in the night when she is trying to stay stealthed.

Eiagra

I'm less concerned with the armor changes last year than I am the disturbing frequency of post necromancy I have been observing...

Appleblade

Deadfinger6 wrote: »

I wish to make "Boob Window" an official technical term now.

I think it is in comic books (re: Power Girl)

I have an old timer gamer saying of questionable pithiness: what scanty armor lacks in deflection it makes up for in distraction.

I'll just leave this here: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/93/d2/d3/93d2d356c02908c0d2aa31ef813eda17.jpg

Appleblade

Eiagra wrote: »

I'm less concerned with the armor changes last year than I am the disturbing frequency of post necromancy I have been observing...

[Persuade] You go track down the Thread Necromancer in the swamp while I liberate the tavern from its infestation of ale.

MercyKilling

I like none of the changes.

snowsong wrote: »

MercyKilling wrote: »

Didn't like them before, don't like them now.

Honestly don't much like any of the armors in the game. Would've really preferred that when they (the devs) said the game will be moddable they meant like the last three single player games and not just the UI.



Still hoping for cosmetic modding one day.

Edit:

My main from GW2(when I used to play it) and I love the outfit. Wish it was here, in this game:

@MercyKilling, the armor you have in this picture looks really good. I would like something like this in ESO too. Did you mod this or was it vanilla?

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That is a vanilla game armor. But it's not in THIS game. It's in another game. Guild Wars 2. That's probably all I can say about that subject, as discussion of other games is not encouraged on these forums.

Thevampirenight

I like none of the changes.

Lysette wrote: »

Dudis wrote: »

I don't mind some of the changes... This for example looks way better now and it has nothing to do with pixelated boobs.

I would like the left one as top of an evening dress, but for an armor I think the right one is far more suitable. Especially for a thief, who does not want her shiny light skin reflect light like a beacon in the night when she is trying to stay stealthed.

I think they were stupid in changing them. My gosh it was perfect the way it was, now its horrid looking. I liked the corseted look before they changed the redguard armor.

Scheneighnay

I don't wear these armors, and or don't care that much about armor design

They changed them?

ElfFromSpace

I like the new textures/sharpened lines, but do not like many of the design changes

Old thread or not, I still want to cry inside every time I walk around Alikr or Craglorn and see the truly horrible new redguard armors on all of the NPCs. They are now by far the stupidest looking armor type in the game. Something should be done for these poor, abused NPCs

Blackbird71

I like none of the changes.

As a relative newcomer, I wasn't even aware that such a change had taken place, or that the armors had been any different than they are now. Now that I see what was lost, I'm sorry to have missed it and wish that ZOS would undo this design blunder.

These sorts of outfits in particular are very reminiscent of some of the gear I remember that could often be found in in the Hammerfell region the first TES game I ever played, "Daggerfall". As such, they feel very thematically appropriate and even carry a sense of nostalgia. Why would ZOS remove variety and style by making these bland and basically the same as any other robe in the game?

Just to show what I'm referring to, I did a quick search online. The image I found isn't the best example (it does show some of the more ridiculous-looking combinations you could get in that game), but you can clearly see the influence of the design of the top in some of the old ESO Redguard tops:




ZOS, be true to the roots of The Elder Scrolls: restore these armors to match their heritage!

Valrien

Why must you necro year-old threads?

Kalante

i see that these are higher priorities than fixing cyrodiil. Well played ZOS.

Solid_Metal

I like the new textures/sharpened lines, but do not like many of the design changes

i meant like, many people complain about others MMO "skimpy outfit" that show too much skin or whatever, here ZoS (as i see it) close the skin and make it a PROPER armor that you can use in a "real" battlefield

of course the change not really that important, but realistically, which one you will chose when you out in wilderness fighting monsters?, the robe with your belly and cleavage shows or the one with full coverage and protection?

anyway despite that i agree/understand/positive thinking about ZoS decision for this, but also IMHO they can make it a little bit "classy" or "fashionable" or whatever you want to call it, it is indeed a little bit dull

dodgehopper_ESO

Dudis wrote: »

I don't mind some of the changes... This for example looks way better now and it has nothing to do with pixelated boobs.

I'm inclined to agree. It just looks strange to wear a ninja mask and hood, but bare your cleavage to the world. It was likewise bizarre for orc women to wear full plate armor with a boob-window. In some cases there is a certain logic to the way the armor looks, or the lack thereof. I think the new bosmer costumes are alright (though I'd say they fit into the light armor category, if that). In my view it is a matter of logical sensibility. Heavy armor should look heavy. Medium armor should look properly padded and protective enough to do its job, but might leave some exposure (like spartan or roman armor). Light armor can be more open to interpretation. As pointed out here though by @Dudis sometimes it just looks strange to show cleavage when you're wearing ninja masks.

dodgehopper_ESO

I think one solution to the problem would be to offer the esthetic choice to the player. For all the players who want a boob window (I still think this is utterly ridiculous on heavy armor, and plain stupid) they could offer alternate versions of the same styles, in the same manner as the Shirt vs. Robe currently available now for Robes. I personally don't like medium armor devised this way either, as the point of armor is to protect the vitals, and apart from the face your heart and lungs sit in your chest cavity. Jab those and the target is dead. This is why many ancient cultures wore impressive helmets and breastplates, and only minor armor elsewhere (Just take a look at Roman and Spartan armors).

Villious

I've been reading the controversy concerning the "boob window" for a while now. Now that I'm able to see side by side photos, I see what everyone is talking about.

I don't get it. The "boob window" was not very revealing. Why was so much offense taken that caused them to change it?

This is a result of the modern 'PC culture", and why we can't have nice things.