Lore question: What is a Daedrat?

Zershar_Vemod

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

We can confirm that this is indeed the intended name and not a typo. As @Aetherderius mentioned, you'll meet Daedrats in the Imperial City.

Hmmm the plot thickens.

Robbmrp

Rosveen wrote: »

They're made from small game, so I'm gonna guess it's a daedric rat. Why anyone would want to eat one is beyond me.

So just what exactly drops this? I've killed all kinds of small things and the only thing I've come across is "Game"...

Anvos

Not sure why there are people over reacting saying deadrats can't exist since they weren't in other games, Oblivion is a ridiculously vast plane of existence and we haven't been to all of the deadric planes or even all of a single plane. We haven't seen the tree or ant deadra before or since the Shivering Isles and that doesn't make them any less real deadra.

Rosveen

Robbmrp wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

They're made from small game, so I'm gonna guess it's a daedric rat. Why anyone would want to eat one is beyond me.

So just what exactly drops this? I've killed all kinds of small things and the only thing I've come across is "Game"...

I've found rabbits and snakes so far.

starkerealm

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

I think the lore monks voted us out of canon a long while ago. We're in the illustrious company of Redguard and Battlespire and considered extended universe at best. =/ we've got the loriest lore master of all lores, however, so who cares but the monks?!

Have a daedrat-on-a-stick instead!

Wait, I could have sworn I saw stuff in the numbered games talking about the destruction of the Battlespire. I know Stros M'Kai has gotten stray nods in lore books outside of Redguard. (Not counting it's reappearance in ESO.)

So... yeah, this seems really weird to me.

Brasseurfb16_ESO

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

I have never seen a daedric rat in any of the ES games I have played and I hope I never do while it is still living.

Aren't the scamps considered as the rats from the Daedric planes?

starkerealm

Brasseurfb16_ESO wrote: »

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

I have never seen a daedric rat in any of the ES games I have played and I hope I never do while it is still living.

Aren't the scamps considered as the rats from the Daedric planes?

Yeah, but Scamp Souffle was too horrifying to consider.

Bfish22090

starkerealm wrote: »

Brasseurfb16_ESO wrote: »

wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »

I have never seen a daedric rat in any of the ES games I have played and I hope I never do while it is still living.

Aren't the scamps considered as the rats from the Daedric planes?

Yeah, but Scamp Souffle was too horrifying to consider.

When will the imperial city in update 7 be coming?

anitajoneb17_ESO

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

I think the lore monks voted us out of canon a long while ago.

Nope... there used to be a lot of caution among the lore freaks regarding ESO in early 2014, prior to beta, but as of now ESO lore is generally accepted as canon (due to its quality).

Rosveen

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

I think the lore monks voted us out of canon a long while ago.

Nope... there used to be a lot of caution among the lore freaks regarding ESO in early 2014, prior to beta, but as of now ESO lore is generally accepted as canon (due to its quality).

By the smart lore folks. There are still lots of people out there who hasten to call ESO a lore abomination whenever the topic comes up.

starkerealm wrote: »

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

I think the lore monks voted us out of canon a long while ago. We're in the illustrious company of Redguard and Battlespire and considered extended universe at best. =/ we've got the loriest lore master of all lores, however, so who cares but the monks?!

Have a daedrat-on-a-stick instead!

Wait, I could have sworn I saw stuff in the numbered games talking about the destruction of the Battlespire. I know Stros M'Kai has gotten stray nods in lore books outside of Redguard. (Not counting it's reappearance in ESO.)

So... yeah, this seems really weird to me.

They're all canon, 100%. Some people just swear by the main series. Actually, Redguard and Battlespire have more credibility because they were made by Bethesda. I think ESO falls together with the books and the mobile games.

Phinix1

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

Buttercup: Westley, what about the D.R.O.U.S.'s?

starkerealm

AlienDiplomat wrote: »

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

Buttercup: Westley, what about the D.R.O.U.S.'s?

Pfff, that's just a Skeever.

Phinix1

starkerealm wrote: »

AlienDiplomat wrote: »

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

Buttercup: Westley, what about the D.R.O.U.S.'s?

Pfff, that's just a Skeever.

Right. It's the skeever saying it. He needed the false sense of security of his place in the rodent pecking order.

ZOS_Lawrence_Schick

Phrastus of Elinhir says, "Daedrats are vermin from Oblivion that sometimes sneak into Nirn through Oblivion Gates or portals. Dremora think they're kind of cute, so if they catch them they kill them swiftly instead of torturing them, like they do with loose banekin."

Pendrillion

Thats how you make things canon... BAM.

Darlgon

SantieClaws

Maaaaster!

Please make Fishmas an official holiday so this one can get a day off 'work' - the guards at Wayrest Castle would thank you!

Santie Claws

Also thank you for the clarification on the Dayratties. Now could you tell this one the best way of cooking them?

tinythinker

Did the Loremaster just post on the forums? How fun!

tinythinker

Keron wrote: »

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

A pun on "daedra" and "dead rat", perhaps? IDK

I wouldn't want either one as a snack, though.

I have a feeling this is dead-on. Like, this is a rat kebab, but it tastes as bad as a piece of daedric buttock.

Soooo not what I want to have, mate...

Why not? For me it depends on the level and the kind of attribute boost it gives. My characters would eat Molag's Soul Fried Dough Balls if they offered an extra 10,000 Max Health and 8,000 Max Magicka and Stamina. And not just on the the 20th of Evening Star.

Keron

tinythinker wrote: »

Why not? For me it depends on the level and the kind of attribute boost it gives. My characters would eat Molag's Soul Fried Dough Balls if they offered an extra 10,000 Max Health and 8,000 Max Magicka and Stamina. And not just on the the 20th of Evening Star.

Eeewww... That sounds like "I suck male anatomical features for white crystalline powder"

LMar

Welp, new creatures. How interesting. I suppose we didn't know about Xivilai before ESIV: Oblivion either !

KhajitFurTrader

LMar wrote: »

Welp, new creatures. How interesting. I suppose we didn't know about Xivilai before ESIV: Oblivion either !

And why stop at daedrats?

Just wait until we see daedrabbits ("Oh, you wascally daedwab... ow! ow!! OW!!"), daedracoons, and daedrattlesnakes!

Coming soon to a store near you, The Elder Scrolls Online: Terminators Unlimited!

tinythinker

Keron wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Why not? For me it depends on the level and the kind of attribute boost it gives. My characters would eat Molag's Soul Fried Dough Balls if they offered an extra 10,000 Max Health and 8,000 Max Magicka and Stamina. And not just on the the 20th of Evening Star.

Eeewww... That sounds like "I suck male anatomical features for white crystalline powder"

You have something against tasty festive treats?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9t5AJNF0so

LMar

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

LMar wrote: »

Welp, new creatures. How interesting. I suppose we didn't know about Xivilai before ESIV: Oblivion either !

And why stop at daedrats?

Just wait until we see daedrabbits ("Oh, you wascally daedwab... ow! ow!! OW!!"), daedracoons, and daedrattlesnakes!

Coming soon to a store near you, The Elder Scrolls Online: Terminators Unlimited!

Let's keep it contained shall we? :P

Tbh They could have chosen a different name I believe but it's a whole other discussion which I don't have the energy for!

Keron

@tinythinker
Dammit, you made me snort coffee out of my nose... Schweddy balls...

starkerealm

Keron wrote: »

@tinythinker
Dammit, you made me snort coffee out of my nose... Schweddy balls...

This is why I only drink while posting... wait, that sounded weird.

LadyNerevar

Rosveen wrote: »

They're all canon, 100%. Some people just swear by the main series. Actually, Redguard and Battlespire have more credibility because they were made by Bethesda. I think ESO falls together with the books and the mobile games.

All of it is all canon. The books built the backbone of Skyrim's lore. They're also one of two things officially called "canon" by Bethesda.

The other is ESO.

Gilvoth

Kragorn wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

We can confirm that this is indeed the intended name and not a typo. As @Aetherderius mentioned, you'll meet Daedrats in the Imperial City.

So this is ESO lore not true TES Lore, as the term daedrat appears nowhere on TES lore sites or other sources of lore information that I can find.

that would be correct Kragorn. and i dare say we might see alot more of this type of shenanigans in the future as well ...

Gilvoth

Lawrence_Schick wrote: »

Phrastus of Elinhir says, "Daedrats are vermin from Oblivion that sometimes sneak into Nirn through Oblivion Gates or portals. Dremora think they're kind of cute, so if they catch them they kill them swiftly instead of torturing them, like they do with loose banekin."

woe, wait a moment, this is indeed lore?
i admire and deeply love you for your many various talants and insights, so, i will take your word for it that this is indeed lore and TES based.
i am trusting you ...

Rosveen

LadyNerevar wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

They're all canon, 100%. Some people just swear by the main series. Actually, Redguard and Battlespire have more credibility because they were made by Bethesda. I think ESO falls together with the books and the mobile games.

All of it is all canon. The books built the backbone of Skyrim's lore. They're also one of two things officially called "canon" by Bethesda.

The other is ESO.

I know that. What I was trying to say is that for people who think only Bethesda creates "true" lore and everyone else is writing official fanfiction, Redguard lore is more acceptable than ESO or the books (even though they're extensively referenced in Skyrim, as you noted). Personally I think this perspective is silly and robs the lore of many great new findings. As a Bosmer fan, I was delighted to learn all I could about them from ESO.

Heck, even that "transcription error" everyone was so miffed about months ago turned out to be only a part of an ongoing discussion between two scholars. Tracking down their different books was a fun challenge in itself.