Ninja Nerf? - Stat Scaling

Panda244

It seems to me, and to a few others that I've talked with, that the whole multiplied by ten thing for stat scaling seems to be trying to conceal the fact that you, and everyone else come 1.6, has actually been ninja nerfed a little bit, and in order to make up for that, you have to invest in the champion system to get back to what you were at in 1.5.
Now it could just be me, but it seriously seems lackluster in comparison, what you could do, and what you were able to tank/DPS or sustain in 1.5, isn't possible in 1.6 until you invest some time into the Champion system, now to me, that blows up the whole point of the system, you aren't progressing further, you're making up for what you've just lost...

Like I said though, could just be me. Anyone else feel the same?

Exstazik

People want new content.ZOS can't introduce new content as fast as people want.So we all now can grind to get the same power in 1.6 which we have in 1.5. and ZOS can do DLC

ToRelax

It is like you said. I would say later we will be glad about it when we are about on the same level as before but with more choices made - however, some many of the passives seem pretty strong and take just as much away from the live characters.

Taonnor

ZOS showed up in one ESO live the diagram with influence of champion system in the character progression. I thought it was 25%. Did you remember this?

In this context they said, they putted things from actual character progression into champion system. For example, they reduced the influence of critical hit from armor to the champion system.

So, your right. At the start of the champion system we are weaker than 1.5 max equipped. But it was no ninja nerv, they communicated it.

I thought they scale the old content down, so you can pass them without champion system buffs. If they did not, oh that's very dump.

Shadesofkin

You need about 100-150 champion points put in to put yourself up to 1.5 standards (give or take another 10pts) and that seems a little unfair. I'd be more inclined to accept the nerf if it were closer to needing the provided 70pts.

Panda244

shadesofkinb14_ESO wrote: »

You need about 100-150 champion points put in to put yourself up to 1.5 standards (give or take another 10pts) and that seems a little unfair. I'd be more inclined to accept the nerf if it were closer to needing the provided 70pts.

Yeah... Either that or dumb down all mobs/trials so that they are on the 1.5 levels... The changes to some skills really screwed over popular builds to, so most people come 1.5 are going to be squishier, trying out new things, and dying alot

Shadesofkin

I might be more willing to get my nose bloodied by monsters if the progression felt meaningful, but at the rate we're able to earn CP's now (400k) it's going to take far too long to feel as if it matters at all during the time on PTS and then it's going to be an all new goodness awful grind to get those 30-45 cp I need to feel meaningful again.

Panda244

shadesofkinb14_ESO wrote: »

I might be more willing to get my nose bloodied by monsters if the progression felt meaningful, but at the rate we're able to earn CP's now (400k) it's going to take far too long to feel as if it matters at all during the time on PTS and then it's going to be an all new goodness awful grind to get those 30-45 cp I need to feel meaningful again.

And you'll never really be more progressed than in 1.5 cause you're just making up lost ground

Shadesofkin

Indeed, we go to take hamburger hill yet again, but this time we get to assemble the rifles while we do it.

Panda244

shadesofkinb14_ESO wrote: »

Indeed, we go to take hamburger hill yet again, but this time we get to assemble the rifles while we do it.

Can the rifles be muskets, cause then assembling them and firing them is both horribad :disagree: