Will dk dps even be viable anymore?

Joejudas · January 2015

after 1.6...reading the patch notes...it really does seem like dk dps will be useless in PvE end game content. Im sure all im going to get in response to this is a bunch of " stop crying" posts. Honestly though its very very discouraging looking going forward for dk's....and specifically any dk wearing light armor or using dw stam. Think about it from our perspective. We put 10 months into a game that we recently found out was a paid beta test, then they make your character and the entire way you play the game completely useless. Whats the incentive to stay ?

Iago · January 2015

Dunno but we had better get a complete respec for free out of this because my build will be useless

stabswithjello · January 2015

DK's got to play as gods for 10 months that's a pretty good run, seems now they will be on par with mere mortals now. It could seem scary at first but I imagine it will not be that bad

xMovingTarget · January 2015

I think it will be fine

Gonna do some excessive testing when PTS is up and running. With that download rate i doubt it will be today though.

Leon119 · January 2015

i would say welcome to the club of every other class in the game. and this doesnt mean dks will do worst dps it means their dps in on par with every1 else

xMovingTarget · January 2015

Leon119 wrote: »

i would say welcome to the club of every other class in the game. and this doesnt mean dks will do worst dps it means their dps in on par with every1 else

I will still outdps you my friend

manny254 · January 2015

Joejudas wrote: »

after 1.6...reading the patch notes...it really does seem like dk dps will be useless in PvE end game content. Im sure all im going to get in response to this is a bunch of " stop crying" posts. Honestly though its very very discouraging looking going forward for dk's....and specifically any dk wearing light armor or using dw stam. Think about it from our perspective. We put 10 months into a game that we recently found out was a paid beta test, then they make your character and the entire way you play the game completely useless. Whats the incentive to stay ?

What makes you think it will be Useless? Not even templars in there current state are useless. You need to calm down.

Flaminir · January 2015

If you DK's seriously think that after the changes announced today that you will be 'on par with everybody else' then I for one must have read a totally different set of patch notes....

You will still be miles ahead!

Especially of Sorcs.

Kilandros · January 2015

Patch Notes made it sound to me like Medium Armor Stam DK is going to be the new meta for DPS.

Rosveen · January 2015

I knew DKs would freak out.

Iago · January 2015

Rosveen wrote: »

I knew DKs would freak out.

You know I don't PvP I tried it a couple of times and I didn't like it. All I do in Cyrodiil are the PvE quests and look for Skyshards once I have those done I will never return there except to get the imperial Daedric Motifs from the imperial city and honestly I May just buy those from guild stores.

Everytime they Nerf DK's because of PvP I get crewed over doing my PvE thing.

If Nirn had an A*****e it would in fact be Cyrodill

Gorthax · January 2015

you here again QQ'ing? You guys got AMAZING buffs......the only thing being considered a nerf is your ability to spam the crap out of your ultimates........ what the heck is with this guy lol

go read sorc patch notes and then come back and tell me you got the shaft.....

Iago · January 2015

Gorthax wrote: »

you here again QQ'ing? You guys got AMAZING buffs......the only thing being considered a nerf is your ability to spam the crap out of your ultimates........ what the heck is with this guy lol

go read sorc patch notes and then come back and tell me you got the shaft.....

Maybe Sorcs got hit harder but I dont have *** tons of alts the only reason I have alts is to hold bank overflow. I play one toon and I do nothing but pve with the exception of the PvE, Dolmens and SKyshards they placed in Cyrodill....

So these nerfs ruining my build for PvE bithers me

Gorthax · January 2015

Iago wrote: »

Gorthax wrote: »

you here again QQ'ing? You guys got AMAZING buffs......the only thing being considered a nerf is your ability to spam the crap out of your ultimates........ what the heck is with this guy lol

go read sorc patch notes and then come back and tell me you got the shaft.....

Maybe Sorcs got hit harder but I dont have *** tons of alts the only reason I have alts is to hold bank overflow. I play one toon and I do nothing but pve with the exception of the PvE, Dolmens and SKyshards they placed in Cyrodill....

So these nerfs ruining my build for PvE bithers me

and what build was that? Spamming ultimates? I see nothing affecting pve here other than that

Iago · January 2015

Gorthax wrote: »

Iago wrote: »

Gorthax wrote: »

you here again QQ'ing? You guys got AMAZING buffs......the only thing being considered a nerf is your ability to spam the crap out of your ultimates........ what the heck is with this guy lol

go read sorc patch notes and then come back and tell me you got the shaft.....

Maybe Sorcs got hit harder but I dont have *** tons of alts the only reason I have alts is to hold bank overflow. I play one toon and I do nothing but pve with the exception of the PvE, Dolmens and SKyshards they placed in Cyrodill....

So these nerfs ruining my build for PvE bithers me

and what build was that? Spamming ultimates? I see nothing affecting pve here other than that

No Immovable, Firey Grip, Blinding Fury, Stone fist, and Coagulated dragon blood the only ultis I use are Soul strike, which I use on bosses and WW which I use to kill enemy NPC's

TequilaFire · January 2015

All I know is I have been having a blast with S&B all heavy DK on my newer alt.
Surprised me how well that works with a DK.
DKs have such a collection of good skills at their disposal other than scales
and standard ultimate, I am not worried at all.

yodased · January 2015

I'm missing what exact nerf you are talking about here. Doesn't seem like we got hit at all.

BlueIllyrian · January 2015

Oh I am sure they will, few crown purchases here, few crown purchases there, it will make them very viable.

Dracane · January 2015

I did see nothing but buffs for DK while reading. Can someone tell me the reason for this thread (the rumored nerfs)

LionheartRichard · January 2015

Iago wrote: »

Dunno but we had better get a complete respec for free out of this because my build will be useless

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that we will, but I don't have a source.

Nijjion · January 2015

DKs relied on Ult for maybe 400-500 dps(not forgetting double which could get another 200-300dps to get the 1.6dps some DKs get), now that ult got nerfed in 2 ways I think sorcs will be ahead of DKs now so.

We will have to see how it goes, but I think sorcs could finally have better DPS than DKs if the pet talk is true.

gresiac · January 2015

im gonna roll a DK today whats a good race for tanking and dpsing

diablo.brocub18_ESO · January 2015

The banner and flames of oblivion nerfs were huge, I think templars and NBs will be the top DPS now.

Sorry sorcs but pet AI is still dumb as rocks

xMovingTarget · January 2015

Rosveen wrote: »

I knew DKs would freak out.

I dont

Overall it looks fine. Actually as it looks like, not considering ultimates the Dmg outout got actually increased

Kilandros wrote: »

Patch Notes made it sound to me like Medium Armor Stam DK is going to be the new meta for DPS.

Yea Dude, Exactly what me and some others very good endgame DKs said when we first read the patchnotes together.

Joejudas · January 2015

So what I'm understanding from a few people on here....is you would rather us all do 700 crappy dps instead of having them make it so all classes can do 1.5k ? Also stop being nasty to me. It's not needed.

spryler · January 2015

I am an Altmer DK fire mage (light armor). I keep my two DOTs (unstable flame and engulfing flame) on the boss and then med weave Crushing Shock.

I don't see how anything changed for me. My dps is from the dots and doing a good job of weaving crushing shock, not spamming ultimates.

Ultimate "nerf" for DKs (well my kind of DK) will primarily affect AOE trash pulls, no biggie.

xMovingTarget · January 2015

spryler wrote: »

I am an Altmer DK fire mage (light armor). I keep my two DOTs (unstable flame and engulfing flame) on the boss and then med weave Crushing Shock.

I don't see how anything changed for me. My dps is from the dots and doing a good job of weaving crushing shock, not spamming ultimates.

Ultimate "nerf" for DKs (well my kind of DK) will primarily affect AOE trash pulls, no biggie.

Unstable flame now will use stamina

so you want get any good results still using it on your Fire Mage.

spryler · January 2015

xMovingTarget wrote: »

spryler wrote: »

I am an Altmer DK fire mage (light armor). I keep my two DOTs (unstable flame and engulfing flame) on the boss and then med weave Crushing Shock.

I don't see how anything changed for me. My dps is from the dots and doing a good job of weaving crushing shock, not spamming ultimates.

Ultimate "nerf" for DKs (well my kind of DK) will primarily affect AOE trash pulls, no biggie.

Unstable flame now will use stamina so you want get any good results still using it on your Fire Mage.

Ouch, didn't think of that. Well hopefully there is a magicka morph that will stay with spell damage / spell crit.

AlayneStone · January 2015

Kilandros wrote: »

Patch Notes made it sound to me like Medium Armor Stam DK is going to be the new meta for DPS.

Woo build I've had since the start, was never super amazing but least not gonna have to change because it's gotten worse.

NordJitsu · January 2015

davedwildebeast wrote: »

If you DK's seriously think that after the changes announced today that you will be 'on par with everybody else' then I for one must have read a totally different set of patch notes....

You will still be miles ahead!

Especially of Sorcs.

This.

How is DK going to be any less OP than before?

Asgari · January 2015

People laugh now and say HAHA at DKs; yet once they fight one it will be zomg needs more nerfs!