Imperial City - DLC?
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Perphection
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Re: Will Imperial City and full Justice be included in Tamriel Unlimited?
"We'll get into all the details about DLC in the future when we're ready to fully discuss it."
-Gina Bruno
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1495173#Comment_1495173
DLC PvP, for content that was advertised long ago. Nice bait and switch, looks like none of my friends will be coming back after all because that would require them to trust in ZOS' ability to properly implement patches and content.
"We'll get into all the details about DLC in the future when we're ready to fully discuss it."
-Gina Bruno
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1495173#Comment_1495173
DLC PvP, for content that was advertised long ago. Nice bait and switch, looks like none of my friends will be coming back after all because that would require them to trust in ZOS' ability to properly implement patches and content.
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Pancake-Tragedy✭✭✭✭✭You would have been paying a subscription to get the Imperial City and you will still have to pay a subscription to get it.
I don't see the problem.
Edit: The way the IC was advertised makes it sound as if it is a PvE zone that is in Cyrodiil anyways...Edited by Pancake-Tragedy on January 22, 2015 9:17PMPancake Tragedy - Sorcerer4 -
Perphection✭✭✭✭Perphection wrote: ». Nice bait and switch, looks like none of my friends will be coming back after all because that would require them to trust in ZOS' ability to properly implement patches and content.
You have sub par reading skills. This is about bringing players BACK to the game.1 -
Pancake-Tragedy✭✭✭✭✭So this is about your friends ability to trust ZoS? This decision will bring back more players, regardless of the initial rage concerning their decision, since there will no longer be a subscription required.Pancake Tragedy - Sorcerer1
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Perphection✭✭✭✭You're not the smartest person I've ever encountered. Please, leave the thread. Thanks in advance for the moderation this thread is going to end up getting now.Edited by Perphection on January 22, 2015 9:24PM3
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Perphection wrote: »Re: Will Imperial City and full Justice be included in Tamriel Unlimited?
"We'll get into all the details about DLC in the future when we're ready to fully discuss it."
-Gina Bruno
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1495173#Comment_1495173
DLC PvP, for content that was advertised long ago. Nice bait and switch, looks like none of my friends will be coming back after all because that would require them to trust in ZOS' ability to properly implement patches and content.
Just pay the sub like we have been and everything is included.....nothing is really different to be honest. So if they were planning on coming back for imperial city they would have to had to resub anyways, this way when imperial city does launch they can chose to sub and get all the content or they can just buy said imperial city DLC if that's all they are interested in2 -
RedTalon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hey if you stay subscribe your still getting it, remember subs aren't going anywhere just people who want the newest and freshest content without how buying things piecemeal will need to subscribe still.
They are just calling subscriptions memberships now.1 -
LonePirate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭This really should not be a surprise to anyone. Despite all of the changed directions, misplaced priorities and mistakes along the way, ZOS has never wavered or hesitated to screw over the PVP community at any and every possible instance. It is their one consistent and reliable activity.0 -
LonePirate wrote: »This really should not be a surprise to anyone. Despite all of the changed directions, misplaced priorities and mistakes along the way, ZOS has never wavered or hesitated to screw over the PVP community at any and every possible instance. It is their one consistent and reliable activity.
Just pay the sub like we have been and everything is included.....nothing is really different to be honest. So if they were planning on coming back for imperial city they would have to had to resub anyways, this way when imperial city does launch they can chose to sub and get all the content or they can just buy said imperial city DLC if that's all they are interested in0 -
Pancake-Tragedy✭✭✭✭✭Perphection wrote: »You're not the smartest person I've ever encountered. Please, leave the thread. Thanks in advance for the moderation this thread is going to end up getting now.
Since I don't agree with what you are saying, I am not intelligent?
Well this escalated quickly.Pancake Tragedy - Sorcerer2 -
Perphection✭✭✭✭Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »
Just pay the sub like we have been and everything is included.....nothing is really different to be honest. So if they were planning on coming back for imperial city they would have to had to resub anyways, this way when imperial city does launch they can chose to sub and get all the content or they can just buy said imperial city DLC if that's all they are interested in
The thing is, everyone who has quit the game feels slighted, and never had any intentions of returning to this game. Soo many players would only return if there were improvements in PvP, and making Imperial City DLC is a huge mistake. At the end of the day PvE ends, and PvP is the end game. PvP is what keeps players around.0 -
Perphection✭✭✭✭Hey if you stay subscribe your still getting it, remember subs aren't going anywhere just people who want the newest and freshest content without how buying things piecemeal will need to subscribe still.
They are just calling subscriptions memberships now.
Can no one in this thread read? Seriously? It's not about how this is going to affect current subscribers, it's the the players who ARE NOT currently player or subscribing who matter here. PvP, and the game in general need to be revitalized. Which means, players need to return and new players need to join in.0 -
Perphection✭✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »This really should not be a surprise to anyone. Despite all of the changed directions, misplaced priorities and mistakes along the way, ZOS has never wavered or hesitated to screw over the PVP community at any and every possible instance. It is their one consistent and reliable activity.
Yeah, I'm not surprised by this either. I just think people should be talking about this, and it should be brought up. I WANT players to come back, I would love to have fun in PvP again, but in order for that to happen there need to be people to fight. Imperial City, needs to be included and NOT a DLC so people will not only come back, but they will stay.0 -
Perphection wrote: »
The thing is, everyone who has quit the game feels slighted, and never had any intentions of returning to this game. Soo many players would only return if there were improvements in PvP, and making Imperial City DLC is a huge mistake. At the end of the day PvE ends, and PvP is the end game. PvP is what keeps players around.
I don't know what you mean by feels "slighted"....the point your missing is that if anyone wants to return regardless what reason they have for doing so they would have to subscribe. Making Imperial city DLC is perfect for people whom only like to pvp because they can actually save money by only buying the content they want. You are also grossly in correct when you say "pve ends" and that the only end game is pvp. They are many people who do not pvp and exclusive do trials and DSA which is end game PVE content. So at the end of the day when said improvements come said people can resub and get all the content or just buy what content they want ala cart, I really do not see any disadvantage here.Edited by Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO on January 22, 2015 9:36PM0 -
Perphection✭✭✭✭You don't know what I mean by feeling "slighted"? Are you kidding me? What game are you playing that you don't feel that way?
"They would have had to subscribe", yes they would have. However, that is no longer the case. They can return, but will still be without any content improvements that appeal to them. So why would they stay? Why would they buy DLC's? They wouldn't. They will simply uninstall again.0 -
Pancake-Tragedy✭✭✭✭✭You are saying that PvP needs a quality update to revitalize PvP. Right, yeah every PvPer is on board with that and there are threads that are asking that.
You brought up the fact that the Imperial City will be DLC, and you seem angry that it will be only accessible through a subscription, which would have only been accessible through a subscription anyways...Pancake Tragedy - Sorcerer1 -
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✭Perphection wrote: »
Can no one in this thread read? Seriously? It's not about how this is going to affect current subscribers, it's the the players who ARE NOT currently player or subscribing who matter here. PvP, and the game in general need to be revitalized. Which means, players need to return and new players need to join in.
I did read it, just pointing out if they keep paying like before for the most current updates and don't go cheap they will be fine was my point, there was no promise really other then they have always said paying helps with content you stop paying you no longer entiled for the current hardwork, and besides with the change of model they still will most likely pump out things ever six to eight weeks like it has been going, so imp city wouldn't be in to april or may anyhow.0 -
Perphection✭✭✭✭Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »You are saying that PvP needs a quality update to revitalize PvP. Right, yeah every PvPer is on board with that and there are threads that are asking that.
You brought up the fact that the Imperial City will be DLC, and you seem angry that it will be only accessible through a subscription, which would have only been accessible through a subscription anyways...
You again.. I don't care about the subscription. That is why I've continued to subscribe all of these months. For the LAST time, this is not about me. It's about players who are contemplating on returning.
This is about players who are contemplating on returning.
This is about players who are contemplating on returning.
Does spacing, and redundancy help get my point across?0 -
Perphection✭✭✭✭
I did read it, just pointing out if they keep paying like before for the most current updates and don't go cheap they will be fine was my point, there was no promise really other then they have always said paying helps with content you stop paying you no longer entiled for the current hardwork, and besides with the change of model they still will most likely pump out things ever six to eight weeks like it has been going, so imp city wouldn't be in to april or may anyhow.
Most of the people who quit, are still pissed off they wasted their money trying this game to begin with. Asking them to return is already a feat in itself, asking them to shell out more money for content that should be added is not going to go over well.0 -
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PvP needs a quality update to bring back players. Yes, I addressed that.Perphection wrote: »
You again.. I don't care about the subscription. That is why I've continued to subscribe all of these months. For the LAST time, this is not about me. It's about players who are contemplating on returning.
This is about players who are contemplating on returning.
This is about players who are contemplating on returning.
Does spacing, and redundancy help get my point across?
Your tantrum is amusing.Edited by Pancake-Tragedy on January 22, 2015 9:44PMPancake Tragedy - Sorcerer0 -
Pancake-Tragedy✭✭✭✭✭Perphection wrote: »
Most of the people who quit, are still pissed off they wasted their money trying this game to begin with. Asking them to return is already a feat in itself, asking them to shell out more money for content that should be added is not going to go over well.
It is safe to say those people wouldn't come back regardless of what happens to this game.Pancake Tragedy - Sorcerer0 -
Perphection✭✭✭✭Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »PvP needs a quality update to bring back players. Yes, I addressed that.
Your tantrum is amusing.
*sigh* I'd hardly call this a "tantrum". But then again we've already seen how poor your comprehension skills are.0 -
Pancake-Tragedy✭✭✭✭✭Perphection wrote: »
*sigh* I'd hardly call this a "tantrum". But then again we've already seen how poor your comprehension skills are.
There is nothing wrong with my comprehension skills. I've addressed the points in your thread, and now I am laughing at you.Pancake Tragedy - Sorcerer0 -
Perphection✭✭✭✭Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »
There is nothing wrong with my comprehension skills. I've addressed the points in your thread, and now I am laughing at you.
Okay, enjoy yourself. Back on topic now please.0 -
Pancake-Tragedy✭✭✭✭✭Perphection wrote: »
Okay, enjoy yourself. Back on topic now please.
Right, what were you saying?Pancake Tragedy - Sorcerer0 -
Perphection wrote: »You don't know what I mean by feeling "slighted"? Are you kidding me? What game are you playing that you don't feel that way?
"They would have had to subscribe", yes they would have. However, that is no longer the case. They can return, but will still be without any content improvements that appeal to them. So why would they stay? Why would they buy DLC's? They wouldn't. They will simply uninstall again.
Settle down now.....Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean everyone else has too. I been playing since beta and am I happy with the direction and improvements we have seen since launch, are things perfect ? Not even close. Why is it no longer the case ? ESO plus membership is there if they want to subscribe. 1.6 is included with tamriel unlimited so your argument hold no ground, all those improvements and changes, champion system, justice is included with the base game. If they sub it includes Imperial City, if they choose not to sub then they don't play any new content, nothing has changed except now people can choose to play this as a single player stand alone B2P game like all other ES games.0 -
Perphection✭✭✭✭Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »
Settle down now.....Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean everyone else has too. I been playing since beta and am I happy with the direction and improvements we have seen since launch, are things perfect ? Not even close. Why is it no longer the case ? ESO plus membership is there if they want to subscribe. 1.6 is included with tamriel unlimited so your argument hold no ground, all those improvements and changes, champion system, justice is included with the base game. If they sub it includes Imperial City, if they choose not to sub then they don't play any new content, nothing has changed except now people can choose to play this as a single player stand alone B2P game like all other ES games.
Oh my, you're missing the point again. It's the "IF", they sub that matters.
You said it yourself very, very clear..These are your words not mine.
"if they choose not to sub then they don't play any new content, nothing has changed"
Exactly my point, nothing has changed. If nothing has changed why would they sub or buy DLC's?0 -
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✭✭✭Okay let's look at it this way.
If they never went B2P you would have to pay 15$ a month to play the imperial city.
Now that they are going B2P you can pay 15$ a month to play the imperial city like the first example. Or you could purchase the imperial city as a DLC and play it for as long as you live.
What seems to be the problem here exactly?DC Dragonknight 'Sypher - AD Nightblade Sypher Ali - AD Sorcerer Sypher Sensei - EP Sorcerer Sypharian - DC Templar Ali Sypher
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Perphection✭✭✭✭Okay let's look at it this way.
If they never went B2P you would have to pay 15$ a month to play the imperial city.
Now that they are going B2P you can pay 15$ a month to play the imperial city like the first example. Or you could purchase the imperial city as a DLC and play it for as long as you live.
What seems to be the problem here exactly?
From someone who spends as much time in PvP as you do, it should be quite obvious as to what the issue is with placing new PvP content on a DLC list.
The PvP players who have left this game, are more likely than not, playing another PvP game.
So, not only do they have to first see value in trying ESO again, then have to see if it's worth leaving their current game, then purchase the DLC to see if they even like the improvements.
Do none of you remember how terrible most of this games patches and content updates have been? They're asking too much. The Imperial City should be included as a gesture of good faith, people need to want to continue to play this game.
They need to include the content people who left the game want, and keep them around with future updates. Not ask them nicely to come back and give them another 15$.0
