Date for 1.6 - You're rapidly running out of time Zenimax

pvpaddict42

You've been stringing us along for months now and promised that 1.6 would be hitting the PTS in January (though I seem to remember back in December that it was supposed to be early January). Well you're rapidly running out of time to make that deadline and have refused to even give an actual date. I appreciate the fact that this is a large update, but we need more than random snippets especially as there hasn't been a significant update in three months.

According to posts I've read, there are at least 63 pages of patch notes, a ridiculously large amount, and yet you haven't posted any of them except in little comments here and there. Why can't you simply post the patch notes you have now? If there is really that much material, you can at least share it with us so we can start reading through it now so that we can hit the ground running once you push it to the PTS. Give us the information or give us the date of release, or preferably both. We need more communication on your part.

heng14rwb17_ESO

Well, need time for quality check for 1.6 ?

technohic

In the dev tracker in French, translated to English by Google Translate

Hello everyone,

I understand that the expectations raised by the Update 6 may be important, but given the importance (quality and quantity) of it , I just ask you a little more patience . We work hard to ensure that all content is final , ready , available in three languages.
Next to the Update itself and its availability on PTS , we also have other things to consider such as release notes and translations of new terms. For information and keep you informed , we have received the French version of the release notes there are less than two hours. We are talking about 67 pages of text, and we attack rereading these notes to ensure that no error is swiped.

Meanwhile, as you can see, we continue to introduce Update 6. There are so many innovations that we enjoy the Live ESO and specific items to present to you the different news that you will be even discover in (very) little.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

They told us new content every 4-6 weeks. I dont think 1.6 even has any like new areas to quest etc right? Going to be more like 6 months between content than 6 weeks.

Merlin13KAGL

Running out of time for what, exactly?

Divinius

Am I the only person that would rather an update take 3 months longer than planned, than to have them get it out on time but have it be a huge pile of crap?

ers101284b14_ESO

Hey another one of these posts. Maybe making more posts and a few polls will get it out quicker cause, you know, that's how developing a game works.

Shadesofkin

Divinius wrote: »

Am I the only person that would rather an update take 3 months longer than planned, than to have them get it out on time but have it be a huge pile of crap?

No, not at all, that being said, I'd be lying if I didn't admit to a little apprehension at the delay.

Stonesthrow

Divinius wrote: »

Am I the only person that would rather an update take 3 months longer than planned, than to have them get it out on time but have it be a huge pile of crap?

Nope… with ya.

NotSo

Honestly, if 1.6/1.7 is as huge as I think it is, I'll hold no grudge and happily accept my helping of CPs.

Wolfenbelle

I don't mind being patient while waiting for updates, but the problem with waiting so long for 1.6 (and 1.7 after) is that it is basically a huge game redesign. For that reason, many people are sort of frozen in place and do not want to progress their characters too much at this point.

Doing pretty much anything with a vr14 other than maybe PvP seems pointless since they are going to be knocked all the way back to 50. Doing Cadwell's s/g with any veteran rank character seems like it would only waste opportunities to get champion points later. And how far do you level characters that are currently under level 50?

What about crafting or acquiring vr2-14 gear, mats, and so on. Is it worth the time and effort if all that stuff is going to somehow be recalibrated back to level 50?

I'm spending most of my time in PvP these days, not because I'm a big fan of how PvP works in this game, but because there doesn't seem to be anything else worth doing for now.

PBpsy

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Running out of time for what, exactly?

Running out of time on my sub that I kept only so I can test 1.6. on the PTS since the game does not offer absolutely any incentives to log on the live server at the moment.

radiostar

time, time, time is on their side!

tinythinker

Yeah I did the same thing with Google translate, so it looks like the notes may be done and are being prepared for posting. Not sure if they will be posted before the upload date for PTS, though, even if they are complete.

Ahdora

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

They told us new content every 4-6 weeks. I dont think 1.6 even has any like new areas to quest etc right? Going to be more like 6 months between content than 6 weeks.

How are the CS and JS not new content?

Merlin13KAGL

Divinius wrote: »

Am I the only person that would rather an update take 3 months longer than planned, than to have them get it out on time but have it be a huge pile of crap?

@Divinius , much rather they have it right than pull a 1.5

Only thing the OP forget was "...or else."

pvpaddict42

Divinius wrote: »

Am I the only person that would rather an update take 3 months longer than planned, than to have them get it out on time but have it be a huge pile of crap?

How does this prevent them from releasing the patch notes before it gets pushed to the test server? This is about the lack of communication more than anything else.

Ahdora

pvpaddict42 wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

Am I the only person that would rather an update take 3 months longer than planned, than to have them get it out on time but have it be a huge pile of crap?

How does this prevent them from releasing the patch notes before it gets pushed to the test server? This is about the lack of communication more than anything else.

Why would they release incomplete patch notes, first of all, and why would they give us patch notes before pushing the update?

orxan.qayibovb16_ESO

ZOS_MichaelServotte admin
7:44PM Staff Post
Bonjour à toutes et tous,

Je comprends que l’attente suscitée par la Mise à jour 6 peut être importante, mais vu l’importance (en qualité et quantité) de celle-ci, je vous demande juste un tout petit plus de patience. Nous travaillons dur pour que tout le contenu soit définitif, prêt, disponibles en trois langues.
À côté de la Mise à jour en elle-même et de sa disponibilité sur PTS, nous avons également d’autres éléments à prendre en compte comme les notes de versions et traductions de nouveaux termes. Pour informations et vous tenir informé, nous avons reçu la version en français des notes de versions il y a moins de deux heures. Nous parlons ici de 67 pages de texte, et nous attaquons la relecture de ces notes pour nous assurer qu’aucune erreur ne n’est glissée.

En attendant, comme vous avez pu le constater, nous continuons de présenter la Mise à jour 6. Il y a tellement de nouveautés que nous profitons des ESO Live, et d’articles spécifiques, afin de vous présenter les différentes nouveautés que vous serez à même de découvrir sous (très) peu.

pvpaddict42

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

Am I the only person that would rather an update take 3 months longer than planned, than to have them get it out on time but have it be a huge pile of crap?

@Divinius , much rather they have it right than pull a 1.5

Only thing the OP forget was "...or else."

Doesn't need an or else, it wasn't an ultimatum. I pay the same money you folks do, I am posting my opinion on the lack of communication and asking them to do something about it.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Ahdora wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

They told us new content every 4-6 weeks. I dont think 1.6 even has any like new areas to quest etc right? Going to be more like 6 months between content than 6 weeks.

How are the CS and JS not new content?

Those are game systems not content. Content is like quests, dungeons etc we havent gotten anything like that since craglorn. Now it seems we wont get anything like that even with 1.7. So talking a very long time with nothing new as far as questing.

Merrak

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Only thing the OP forget was "...or else."

"...or else what?"

"Tell 'em Vinnie."

"...or else Pizza is gonna send out for you!"

orxan.qayibovb16_ESO

the translated version of the notes is being reviewed, all 67 pages, and that it would be on PTS "(very) soon"
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/146357/pts-1-6-des-news#latest

Ahdora

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Ahdora wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

They told us new content every 4-6 weeks. I dont think 1.6 even has any like new areas to quest etc right? Going to be more like 6 months between content than 6 weeks.

How are the CS and JS not new content?

Those are game systems not content. Content is like quests, dungeons etc we havent gotten anything like that since craglorn. Now it seems we wont get anything like that even with 1.7. So talking a very long time with nothing new as far as questing.

I think you may have misunderstood them when they said "new content." They certainly didn't mean new zones, dungeons, and questlines every six weeks. That isn't a sustainable model for the long haul.

skillastat

Let them take their time to release a perfect, not bugged, update 6.

pvpaddict42

Ahdora wrote: »

pvpaddict42 wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

Am I the only person that would rather an update take 3 months longer than planned, than to have them get it out on time but have it be a huge pile of crap?

How does this prevent them from releasing the patch notes before it gets pushed to the test server? This is about the lack of communication more than anything else.

Why would they release incomplete patch notes, first of all, and why would they give us patch notes before pushing the update?

Because some communication is better than no communication and they have a huge amount of information sitting there. They can share that information now so that when it does go to PTS the testers already pretty much know what the be looking for and can go straight into the testing instead of having to read through 60+ pages of notes first. We're not talking about them releasing the version that is going to go on the live servers, this is the test server and these won't be the final iteration of the 1.6 notes as I am sure there will be updates happening on the test server as things are put through the wringer. They have no real reason to sit on the notes.

Ahdora

pvpaddict42 wrote: »

Ahdora wrote: »

pvpaddict42 wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

Am I the only person that would rather an update take 3 months longer than planned, than to have them get it out on time but have it be a huge pile of crap?

How does this prevent them from releasing the patch notes before it gets pushed to the test server? This is about the lack of communication more than anything else.

Why would they release incomplete patch notes, first of all, and why would they give us patch notes before pushing the update?

Because some communication is better than no communication and they have a huge amount of information sitting there. They can share that information now so that when it does go to PTS the testers already pretty much know what the be looking for and can go straight into the testing instead of having to read through 60+ pages of notes first. We're not talking about them releasing the version that is going to go on the live servers, this is the test server and these won't be the final iteration of the 1.6 notes as I am sure there will be updates happening on the test server as things are put through the wringer. They have no real reason to sit on the notes.

I'll just agree to disagree with you. I have no interest in reading "theory" patch notes. I'd rather wait and read them when they are released, than read them before the patch has been pushed, then have to read some kind of addendum saying "this point on this page, that point on that page, etc etc" weren't pushed through, disregard those.

Divinius

They will have plenty of time to read the 60+ pages of patch notes while trying to download the 45 GB update to the test server...

AlexDougherty

pvpaddict42 wrote: »

Ahdora wrote: »

pvpaddict42 wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

Am I the only person that would rather an update take 3 months longer than planned, than to have them get it out on time but have it be a huge pile of crap?

How does this prevent them from releasing the patch notes before it gets pushed to the test server? This is about the lack of communication more than anything else.

Why would they release incomplete patch notes, first of all, and why would they give us patch notes before pushing the update?

Because some communication is better than no communication

Not always, sometimes some communication just gets people confused and angry.

There is a threshold before some communication becomes meaningful, and in this case it's probably about the time they will be releasing the patch notes anyhow.

Grao

I wish they'd at least post the changes to class and weapons skills. It would help us prepare and theorycraft around those changes even before the actual release of 1.6 on the PTS.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Ahdora wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Ahdora wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

They told us new content every 4-6 weeks. I dont think 1.6 even has any like new areas to quest etc right? Going to be more like 6 months between content than 6 weeks.

How are the CS and JS not new content?

Those are game systems not content. Content is like quests, dungeons etc we havent gotten anything like that since craglorn. Now it seems we wont get anything like that even with 1.7. So talking a very long time with nothing new as far as questing.

I think you may have misunderstood them when they said "new content." They certainly didn't mean new zones, dungeons, and questlines every six weeks. That isn't a sustainable model for the long haul.

Yet that was their entire reasoning for the monthly sub. They said we would have new content every 4-6 weeks. I dont think they meant constant revamps as content. If they did we are getting screwed. The justice system is not content. Its just a mini game. If they wait till 1.8 to add any new quests etc then thats just insane. They will lose a ton of players.