ESO going free to play?

Alphashado

Knootewoot wrote: »

Keiffo wrote: »

... The guild only kicks players with 7 or more days of inactivity. ....

7 days? Can't even go on vacation without being kicked? People who are in service who have to go offshore for a month are kickin' the bucket.

Most guilds are happy to waive the inactive deadline as long as you simply tell them you won't be on for a while.

Maotti

All these rumours about F2P are going viral. Lots of gaming sites on Facebook talking about it.

The F2P doomsayers are having a major feasting now in the comments.

Zenimax, please say something at least.

Sinbaar

I don't pay very much attention to rumors like that - usually. I'm a huge fan of ZOS and ESO, yeah you even could call me Fanboy. I care about this game and i love the the things they brought and implemented and what they've planned.

BUT!

I truly, really think, that it is beneath contempt that they are just saying NOTHING! to those rumors. A short and simply yes or no would be enough. I get it, that they don't have to tell people about the numbers of players, they don't have to give us insight in the financial stuff of the game and so on.

But they see, what is happening here, that people are concerned. I also get it, that they are probably quite scared to loose players, if they go f2p - or b2p. If so, well, they have to have the guts and just tell it- now.

I know they said, the removal is nothing bad, it just wasn't used that much (the same, exactly the same text was given the warhammer players). But again - they see what is happening here.

I'm just a little disappointed in their information policy.

Either way, i am really hoping, that it'll stay this way it is (well, the payment stuff, not the game^^)

NadiusMaximus

The secret world did the same thing.

Monday- no plans for f2p or b2p in the future. Ever. Never gonna happen.

Tuesday- I loved the game, reassured I bought a lifetime sub.

Wendesday- company announced we are going b2p

Thursday- we are not issuing refunds at all for lifetime subs bought previously. Instead you get points for the new cash shop.

Friday- cash shop opened

Saturday- uninstall of the game.

Bloodystab

NadiusMaximus wrote: »

The secret world did the same thing.

Monday- no plans for f2p or b2p in the future. Ever. Never gonna happen.

Tuesday- I loved the game, reassured I bought a lifetime sub.

Wendesday- company announced we are going b2p

Thursday- we are not issuing refunds at all for lifetime subs bought previously. Instead you get points for the new cash shop.

Friday- cash shop opened

Saturday- uninstall of the game.

True story, my game experience was same. Except life time sub.

ben_ESO5

firstdecan wrote: »

That's got to be the answer. It couldn't possibly be that they're removing old SKUs in preparation for another promotion that will coincide with the release of the champion system, one year anniversary, and/or console release......

You're the only one on the right track. The screwballs at Kotaku have now updated their hit-piece saying that EB games stated roughly what you did...a stock recall that's not limited to just ESO. But in a desperate attempt to maintain relevance (albeit by sliding down the tabloid poop-chute even farther) Kotaku is hanging on to the shred that it supposedly means all of the current ESO stock is being recalled.

Syntse

Keiffo wrote: »

One of my trading guilds constantly has close to 500 players. The interesting thing though is that the guild has to replace on average 30-50 players per day. The guild only kicks players with 7 or more days of inactivity. The player base is shrinking rapidly F2P is coming.

This can just also tell that there are much more casuals playing this game than in mmo usually. So one can play few days a week, keep couple week off then play again and so.

Wolfshead

@glitchmaster999‌

So if someone internet would say that sky will fall down in next few month you would believe blind without check any facts?

And to answer to the article

Stop listening to bloggers. Read official ZOS announcements. ZOS said they removed the 6 month because their buyrates showed people favored the other plans. Not a big deal man.

Also, the company that was subject to the recall actually initiated it because they had overpurchased the game for the holiday season.

God i just love the rumours wheels of internet as soon something change with game subscribe plan the whole internet think that game will go F2P or die out serious if people would just take chill pill now and then and stop worry as soon as someone sneeze on internet the internet will alot better place.

NadiusMaximus

Maybe they are just making room for all those "Game of the year special additions" They made.

Cody

Dominoid wrote: »

Oops . . .

"This is just part of a normal stock recall. Post-Christmas we ask stores to send back anything that they may have too much of in store. This time we included many titles, including The Evil Within, Destiny and The Elder Scrolls Online."

http://www.mcvpacific.com/news/read/elder-scrolls-stock-removal-just-part-of-normal-stock-recall/0143646?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

and there we have it. case closed, stop with the conspiracy theories.

wiz12268b14_ESO

NadiusMaximus wrote: »

The secret world did the same thing.

Monday- no plans for f2p or b2p in the future. Ever. Never gonna happen.

Tuesday- I loved the game, reassured I bought a lifetime sub.

Wendesday- company announced we are going b2p

Thursday- we are not issuing refunds at all for lifetime subs bought previously. Instead you get points for the new cash shop.

Friday- cash shop opened

Saturday- uninstall of the game.

Lotro did it (after 2 years) best investment anyone could ever make. I havent paid a dime in that game since Mines of Moria expansion. All the points they give have bought every expansion they have released (which cost real money otherwise) with thousands of points left over. So they basically pay people who spent 199 bucks almost 8 years ago to own their game.

End of the day if you like a game it shouldnt matter if its free to play or sub based.

All the top tier games who have gone free to play havent really been helped by Free to play change (in player population anyway) nor have the games gotten better content wise. Sure they add expansions or free zones but in depth content not really. Games like Lotro, Rift, Swotor, AoC, those types of games. Ones with a solid player base to begin with.

Junk games dont count. Ones that are obvious cash grab trash.

rylixav

Cody wrote: »

and there we have it. case closed, stop with the conspiracy theories.

No, it's not closed, and that's the point. As long as major gaming websites are putting up articles saying that the game is going F2P, the problem continues.

If they aren't going F2P, then a ZOS employee need to state explicitly that these websites are wrong and what they're publishing is untrue. Otherwise they're just going to continue doing it.

Do you really think it's a good idea to let major websites continue publishing things about your company and your product that aren't true without responding in any way?

roltus

It's not something they can just post because people are talking about it. The forum staff absolutely won't have the authority to comment. No company is going to comment about future financial details lightly.

rylixav

roltus wrote: »

It's not something they can just post because people are talking about it. The forum staff absolutely won't have the authority to comment. No company is going to comment about future financial details lightly.

Oh, I do understand that. That's why I said "a ZOS employee" instead of anything about the forums. But Zenimax does have a public relations team that exists to communicate with customers and the media, and this is the kind of thing they employ them for.

roltus

rylixav wrote: »

Oh, I do understand that. That's why I said "a ZOS employee" instead of anything about the forums. But Zenimax does have a public relations team that exists to communicate with customers and the media, and this is the kind of thing they employ them for.

Indeed, but this kind of stuff takes time. It's currently all down to speculation entirely rather than any facts, and I wouldn't be surprised if their PR people are reluctant to give official comments about very sensitive topics just on internet speculation.

ers101284b14_ESO

ZOS doesn't respond to false rumors. Remember when IGN made that rumor about console cancellation and ZOS said nothing. But if the rumor is valid they usually speak up.

Valije

I think they don't care. On the bright side, everyone is talking about ESO. The game have a lot of following, hence this is the PROOF they will no be F2P.

My comment is as valid as someone who says it will be f2p because of the silence.

ThePonzzz

Or this article was written by the same people preaching on about F2P, and trying to use Kotaku's weight to force ZOS/Bethseda to show their hand.

Either way, it's not a smoking gun article. There are plenty of reasons to pull merchandise in retail.

Naivefanboi

SIN-X wrote: »

Yes it is.....The primary goal right now is box sales for console as they have pretty much shown the pc players where they stand. The problem is Xbox and PS will not wave the live fees (to allow voice comm) for this game as the sub base is far lower than was expected, so for it to release on those systems they have to go f2p and go for another box sale push. There simply isn't enough players to get those brands to consider losing money to put it in Zens pocket.

We can as always wait for a response from Zos however calls to Bethesda would prob be answered faster and almost certain to be more creditable.
If this was not the case all zos had to do is make a FORMAL statement about it in the forums.

Lol ps+ is not required, XBL gold is

Naivefanboi

Maotti_Nor wrote: »

All these rumours about F2P are going viral. Lots of gaming sites on Facebook talking about it.

The F2P doomsayers are having a major feasting now in the comments.

Zenimax, please say something at least.

Just let them troll theirselves i love it lol
Least were not playing destiny and pretending that gimmick garbage is content lol

DaniAngione

[You need 500 DaniAngione's Gold to unlock my Screenshot through DaniAngione's Gold Shop]

EDIT:
I was sure I was on that "Screenshots against F2P thread"..... ... damn... I guess I need some sleep.

renton1x1x1

/yawn

and Zenimax, please say something at least.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

renton1x1x1 wrote: »

/yawn

and Zenimax, please say something at least.

Lets say they deny it publically. People will still continue with it. Claim other companies denied it yet went f2p anyways. All that stuff.

Exstazik

Right now i trust more to this man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33MevFVnF0Q

Because i didn't hear/see an official post where will be say
"F2P is not coming " or "The game goes F2p from X.X patch/next month/etc"
I still pay money and can't have some info about question which is interested not only to me but to the hole community.

What i see right now:
1)They will sell console versions and make money
2)They introduced CS to attract new players to the game and make money
3)They throw information in a little numbers to smooth discontent
4)They show the middle finger to loyality subscribers with such behavior.

ZOS if you:
1) Going to f2p/b2p/p2p model....then pls spend 1 min and post "TESO going to f2p/b2p/p2p"
2) Don't know which model will have Your game then again spend 1 min and post "We don't know which model will be better"

JKorr

Cody wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

'We couldn’t get in contact with Bethesda locally to confirm the reasons for the game’s removal, but rumours are circling that the game is finally making the leap to a free-to-play business model.'

This sentence says it all. No disguising which business model they prefer. It's amazing how many people desperately want ESO to fail just so they can say "Ha! I told you so!".

Just another click-bait site looking for add revenue.

/Thread.

Nice catch.

Seems like I won't be reading articles from Kotaku anymore, if there is anything worse than F2P games, that'd be F2P fanboys.

Why were they trying to contact Bethesda... its a ZOS game, contact ZOS about it:/ Unless Bethesda happens to be providing all the funds.

Zenimax Online Studios created the game.

Bethesda Softworks published the game. Bethesda as the publisher would be the one to contact to ask the question.

However, while the games and cards were removed from one store, the games and time cards are available on both Amazon and Bethesda's store.

ers101284b14_ESO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnzafqZqFf0

Elsonso

One of the Facts from that video:

"People who were using the 6 month option before, now have to pay more for their subscription than they were previously."

I don't recall any statements that indicate this is true. As a matter of fact, people in the forum here have said that they are still subscribed to the 6 month plan. Has anyone stated that, when it came time to bill for time, that they dropped them down to a 3 month plan and charged them at a higher rate?

I don't care much for the implication near the end that says that taking a vocal stance against F2P is "fanboi" while a vocal stance for F2P is "common sense".

I will say that both podcasts are very excitable over this. I dislike both of them and ignore them both equally, but I am sure those of you who follow them will enjoy the next few iterations of this battle.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

lordrichter wrote: »

One of the Facts from that video:

"People who were using the 6 month option before, now have to pay more for their subscription than they were previously."

I don't recall any statements that indicate this is true. As a matter of fact, people in the forum here have said that they are still subscribed to the 6 month plan. Has anyone stated that, when it came time to bill for time, that they dropped them down to a 3 month plan and charged them at a higher rate?

I don't care much for the implication near the end that says that taking a vocal stance against F2P is "fanboi" while a vocal stance for F2P is "common sense".

I will say that both podcasts are very excitable over this. I dislike both of them and ignore them both equally, but I am sure those of you who follow them will enjoy the next few iterations of this battle.

This is a fact. You can renew your 6 month sub if you already have one.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

JKorr wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

'We couldn’t get in contact with Bethesda locally to confirm the reasons for the game’s removal, but rumours are circling that the game is finally making the leap to a free-to-play business model.'

This sentence says it all. No disguising which business model they prefer. It's amazing how many people desperately want ESO to fail just so they can say "Ha! I told you so!".

Just another click-bait site looking for add revenue.

/Thread.

Nice catch.

Seems like I won't be reading articles from Kotaku anymore, if there is anything worse than F2P games, that'd be F2P fanboys.

Why were they trying to contact Bethesda... its a ZOS game, contact ZOS about it:/ Unless Bethesda happens to be providing all the funds.

Zenimax Online Studios created the game.

Bethesda Softworks published the game. Bethesda as the publisher would be the one to contact to ask the question.

However, while the games and cards were removed from one store, the games and time cards are available on both Amazon and Bethesda's store.

Also available at walmart, best buy and god knows how many more stores. Only eb games in australia sent back copies. Presumably because they purchased too many. I dont know exactly I know the recall was not initiated by ZOS.

Zershar_Vemod

Nope.