ESO going free to play?

glitchmaster999

The article posted on kotaku states that all ESO games and game time cards were asked to be returned predicting that ESO will either be going free to play or buy to pay instead of subscriber based. Is there going to be a statement on this soon? I'm not even sure I would play if it goes free to play.

This is the article:

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/01/eb-games-is-removing-all-copies-of-elder-scrolls-online-from-stores/

Ruben

The guys at Kotaku don't even know that Bethesda didn't make this game. I wouldn't trust them too much.

firstdecan

That's got to be the answer. It couldn't possibly be that they're removing old SKUs in preparation for another promotion that will coincide with the release of the champion system, one year anniversary, and/or console release......

Alphashado

'We couldn’t get in contact with Bethesda locally to confirm the reasons for the game’s removal, but rumours are circling that the game is finally making the leap to a free-to-play business model.'

This sentence says it all. No disguising which business model they prefer. It's amazing how many people desperately want ESO to fail just so they can say "Ha! I told you so!".

Just another click-bait site looking for add revenue.

/Thread.

glitchmaster999

I was hoping someone like you would come along, I'm hoping its wrong, give me hope hahahaha

SIN-X

Yes it is.....The primary goal right now is box sales for console as they have pretty much shown the pc players where they stand. The problem is Xbox and PS will not wave the live fees (to allow voice comm) for this game as the sub base is far lower than was expected, so for it to release on those systems they have to go f2p and go for another box sale push. There simply isn't enough players to get those brands to consider losing money to put it in Zens pocket.

We can as always wait for a response from Zos however calls to Bethesda would prob be answered faster and almost certain to be more creditable.
If this was not the case all zos had to do is make a FORMAL statement about it in the forums.

BigM

I don't want to believe it is going F2P, but if it does I will no longer be playing it.

Keiffo

One of my trading guilds constantly has close to 500 players. The interesting thing though is that the guild has to replace on average 30-50 players per day. The guild only kicks players with 7 or more days of inactivity. The player base is shrinking rapidly F2P is coming.

glitchmaster999

I've been inactive for a month waiting for 1.6 so that doesn't really mean much

Cody

for f***s sake.

NOOOOOOOOOO.

Alphashado

Keiffo wrote: »

One of my trading guilds constantly has close to 500 players. The interesting thing though is that the guild has to replace on average 30-50 players per day. The guild only kicks players with 7 or more days of inactivity. The player base is shrinking rapidly F2P is coming.

Well if they can replace that many per day, then there isn't an issue because it means that just as many or more people are joining the game as there are leaving it. I recruit for a major trading guild. We also have to recruit every day in order to stay full and active with a 10 day inactive boot policy. The number is closer to 5-10 per day in a guild of 500. This is nothing new. It's been that way since day one.

I'm not worried at all. When the day comes that we are unable to replace the ones that leave, then I will believe the population is declining.

DDuke

Alphashado wrote: »

'We couldn’t get in contact with Bethesda locally to confirm the reasons for the game’s removal, but rumours are circling that the game is finally making the leap to a free-to-play business model.'

This sentence says it all. No disguising which business model they prefer. It's amazing how many people desperately want ESO to fail just so they can say "Ha! I told you so!".

Just another click-bait site looking for add revenue.

/Thread.

Nice catch.

Seems like I won't be reading articles from Kotaku anymore, if there is anything worse than F2P games, that'd be F2P fanboys.

Cody

DDuke wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

'We couldn’t get in contact with Bethesda locally to confirm the reasons for the game’s removal, but rumours are circling that the game is finally making the leap to a free-to-play business model.'

This sentence says it all. No disguising which business model they prefer. It's amazing how many people desperately want ESO to fail just so they can say "Ha! I told you so!".

Just another click-bait site looking for add revenue.

/Thread.

Nice catch.

Seems like I won't be reading articles from Kotaku anymore, if there is anything worse than F2P games, that'd be F2P fanboys.

Why were they trying to contact Bethesda... its a ZOS game, contact ZOS about it:/ Unless Bethesda happens to be providing all the funds.

Blud

Alphashado wrote: »

Keiffo wrote: »

One of my trading guilds constantly has close to 500 players. The interesting thing though is that the guild has to replace on average 30-50 players per day. The guild only kicks players with 7 or more days of inactivity. The player base is shrinking rapidly F2P is coming.

Well if they can replace that many per day, then there isn't an issue because it means that just as many or more people are joining the game as there are leaving it. I recruit for a major trading guild. We also have to recruit every day in order to stay full and active with a 10 day inactive boot policy. The number is closer to 5-10 per day in a guild of 500. This is nothing new. It's been that way since day one.

I'm not worried at all. When the day comes that we are unable to replace the ones that leave, then I will believe the population is declining.

This is not sustainable.

Elsonso

Cody wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

'We couldn’t get in contact with Bethesda locally to confirm the reasons for the game’s removal, but rumours are circling that the game is finally making the leap to a free-to-play business model.'

This sentence says it all. No disguising which business model they prefer. It's amazing how many people desperately want ESO to fail just so they can say "Ha! I told you so!".

Just another click-bait site looking for add revenue.

/Thread.

Nice catch.

Seems like I won't be reading articles from Kotaku anymore, if there is anything worse than F2P games, that'd be F2P fanboys.

Why were they trying to contact Bethesda... its a ZOS game, contact ZOS about it:/ Unless Bethesda happens to be providing all the funds.

Bethesda Softworks is the publisher. They are the ones that are allegedly asking for the stuff to be sent back.

People who are complaining about download times would understand why Bethesda might want the old copies of the game back. They may be re-issuing the game at a newer version.

Ourorboros

Nothing to see here. Beating a dead horse.

Cody

Keiffo wrote: »

One of my trading guilds constantly has close to 500 players. The interesting thing though is that the guild has to replace on average 30-50 players per day. The guild only kicks players with 7 or more days of inactivity. The player base is shrinking rapidly F2P is coming.

Let me explain exactly why that logic is flawed.

One can only have 5 guilds in the game, and there are THOUSANDS of guilds in ESO overall. There are CONSTANT advertisements in zone chat recruiting. At some point, a guild will pop up one wants to be in, but that person will already have five guilds: So that person will have to make a choice: stay in all 5, or drop one of the five for the new guild. I've dropped one of my 5 for a new guild, in fact I've done it just recently.

That does not mean the population is rapidly shrinking, It just means there is competition in the game. guilds constantly compete for the members: some flourish, some do great, some do OK, some fall on hard times, and some end up failing completely. Its just the way things go.

Alphashado

Blud wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

Keiffo wrote: »

One of my trading guilds constantly has close to 500 players. The interesting thing though is that the guild has to replace on average 30-50 players per day. The guild only kicks players with 7 or more days of inactivity. The player base is shrinking rapidly F2P is coming.

Well if they can replace that many per day, then there isn't an issue because it means that just as many or more people are joining the game as there are leaving it. I recruit for a major trading guild. We also have to recruit every day in order to stay full and active with a 10 day inactive boot policy. The number is closer to 5-10 per day in a guild of 500. This is nothing new. It's been that way since day one.

I'm not worried at all. When the day comes that we are unable to replace the ones that leave, then I will believe the population is declining.

This is not sustainable.

I told myself that 8 months ago when I first noticed the pattern. Yet here we are and we still have no problems at all filling those spots. 5-10 people per day sounds like a lot, but in a guild of 500 it's less than 2% of the population.

Cody

lordrichter wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

'We couldn’t get in contact with Bethesda locally to confirm the reasons for the game’s removal, but rumours are circling that the game is finally making the leap to a free-to-play business model.'

This sentence says it all. No disguising which business model they prefer. It's amazing how many people desperately want ESO to fail just so they can say "Ha! I told you so!".

Just another click-bait site looking for add revenue.

/Thread.

Nice catch.

Seems like I won't be reading articles from Kotaku anymore, if there is anything worse than F2P games, that'd be F2P fanboys.

Why were they trying to contact Bethesda... its a ZOS game, contact ZOS about it:/ Unless Bethesda happens to be providing all the funds.

Bethesda Softworks is the publisher. They are the ones that are allegedly asking for the stuff to be sent back.

People who are complaining about download times would understand why Bethesda might want the old copies of the game back. They may be re-issuing the game at a newer version.

interesting.

This game still wont go F2P though. the worst that could happen is some kind of B2P model

PSLAnimal

Oh, for crying out loud. Again?

Zorrashi

Speculation and conspiracy are the brothers of lady popularity. People have been saying that it will go F2P since before launch. Some said "it will totally be within the month.". Others said it will "definitely go F2P within 6 months".

We are still here though. Unfortunately, even if the game goes F2P years now the road from now, they are still going to be like "See! I told you it would!".

But personally, I would ignore them. Few of the articles have any credibility, and others are merely grasping at straws. If they could formulate their arguments better, then maybe I would put some stock into them, but so far they have presented only hype and haphazardly made connections regarding certain business decisions.

tinythinker

PSLAnimal wrote: »

Oh, for crying out loud. Again?

Secret achievement. There's always 2-3 topics at a time you can start a new post on to unlock it.

Gidorick

LOL. awesome.

LtCrunch

SIN-X wrote: »

Yes it is.....The primary goal right now is box sales for console as they have pretty much shown the pc players where they stand. The problem is Xbox and PS will not wave the live fees (to allow voice comm) for this game as the sub base is far lower than was expected, so for it to release on those systems they have to go f2p and go for another box sale push. There simply isn't enough players to get those brands to consider losing money to put it in Zens pocket.

We can as always wait for a response from Zos however calls to Bethesda would prob be answered faster and almost certain to be more creditable.
If this was not the case all zos had to do is make a FORMAL statement about it in the forums.

Except Sony came out and said they would waive the PS+ fee for ESO.....

LtCrunch

Cody wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

'We couldn’t get in contact with Bethesda locally to confirm the reasons for the game’s removal, but rumours are circling that the game is finally making the leap to a free-to-play business model.'

This sentence says it all. No disguising which business model they prefer. It's amazing how many people desperately want ESO to fail just so they can say "Ha! I told you so!".

Just another click-bait site looking for add revenue.

/Thread.

Nice catch.

Seems like I won't be reading articles from Kotaku anymore, if there is anything worse than F2P games, that'd be F2P fanboys.

Why were they trying to contact Bethesda... its a ZOS game, contact ZOS about it:/ Unless Bethesda happens to be providing all the funds.

Bethesda Softworks is the publisher of the game. The dev team that made Morrowind/Oblivion/SKyrim is Bethesda Game Studios. So yes Bethesda Softworks is providing funds and that's who makes the business decisions. Contacting ZOS about this issue would be pointless.

EDIT:Clarification.

Kevinmon

There it is, the nail in the coffin. ZOS silence proves it too.

Dominoid

Oops . . .

"This is just part of a normal stock recall. Post-Christmas we ask stores to send back anything that they may have too much of in store. This time we included many titles, including The Evil Within, Destiny and The Elder Scrolls Online."

http://www.mcvpacific.com/news/read/elder-scrolls-stock-removal-just-part-of-normal-stock-recall/0143646?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Spottswoode

tinythinker

Spottswoode wrote: »

Almost got it. Just a little more...

Alphashado

Dominoid wrote: »

Oops . . .

"This is just part of a normal stock recall. Post-Christmas we ask stores to send back anything that they may have too much of in store. This time we included many titles, including The Evil Within, Destiny and The Elder Scrolls Online."

http://www.mcvpacific.com/news/read/elder-scrolls-stock-removal-just-part-of-normal-stock-recall/0143646?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

lmao. Too funny. Once again all those people that desperately want ESO to go F2P just so they can pounce and say "Ha! I told you so!" just look foolish. Love it.

Knootewoot

Keiffo wrote: »

... The guild only kicks players with 7 or more days of inactivity. ....

7 days? Can't even go on vacation without being kicked? People who are in service who have to go offshore for a month are kickin' the bucket.

Ontopic: I doubt it will ever go f2p. I can be wrong of course as i was with swtor.