How do you earn the title of Legate in the Alliance War?

MornaBaine

As the title say. I WANT that black dye dammit! LOL

tinythinker

Earn millions of Alliance Points by completing bounties to kill enemy players, killing enemy players without bounties, completing scouting report missions, capturing keeps and keep resources (with or without quests for particular locations), defending keeps your own alliance controls, repairing wooden gates and stone walls at keeps your alliance controls, and healing allies in Cyrodiil while they are in combat.

Jaerlach

MornaBaine wrote: »

As the title say. I WANT that black dye dammit! LOL

Legate requires alliance rank 38, which is one only a handful have reached. Like probably under 20 players. You need over 30 million ap.

LonePirate

Jaerlach wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

As the title say. I WANT that black dye dammit! LOL

Legate requires alliance rank 38, which is one only a handful have reached. Like probably under 20 players.

It is actually Alliance War Rank 39, not that it makes much difference to the vast majority of PVPers who are below Rank 20.

There are numerous players with ranks well into the 30s so we will be seeing many more Legates in the next few weeks.

MornaBaine

Oh geez, it WOULD have to be something totally ridiculous, wouldn't it? SIGH I'm SO resentful that nearly ALL of the best Dyes are linked to PvP achievements. most of which I will never see. Thanks for giving us PVEers teh shaft ZOS!

LonePirate

MornaBaine wrote: »

Oh geez, it WOULD have to be something totally ridiculous, wouldn't it? SIGH I'm SO resentful that nearly ALL of the best Dyes are linked to PvP achievements. most of which I will never see. Thanks for giving us PVEers teh shaft ZOS!

What exactly is the difference between the black dye for the Legate rank and the black dye for completing the Comdharbour quests or the one for mastering vampirism? Both of those are easily obtainable.

McLukos

LonePirate wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Oh geez, it WOULD have to be something totally ridiculous, wouldn't it? SIGH I'm SO resentful that nearly ALL of the best Dyes are linked to PvP achievements. most of which I will never see. Thanks for giving us PVEers teh shaft ZOS!

What exactly is the difference between the black dye for the Legate rank and the black dye for completing the Comdharbour quests or the one for mastering vampirism? Both of those are easily obtainable.

The shade of black... so i guess the should all be named grey...

thelordoffelines

MornaBaine wrote: »

Oh geez, it WOULD have to be something totally ridiculous, wouldn't it? SIGH I'm SO resentful that nearly ALL of the best Dyes are linked to PvP achievements. most of which I will never see. Thanks for giving us PVEers teh shaft ZOS!

ZOS.giving PVEers the shaft? That's a daily occurrence for PvPers. We are very often forgotten about for the sake of PvE.

Samadhi

LonePirate wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Oh geez, it WOULD have to be something totally ridiculous, wouldn't it? SIGH I'm SO resentful that nearly ALL of the best Dyes are linked to PvP achievements. most of which I will never see. Thanks for giving us PVEers teh shaft ZOS!

What exactly is the difference between the black dye for the Legate rank and the black dye for completing the Comdharbour quests or the one for mastering vampirism? Both of those are easily obtainable.

Desirability based on rarity mostly.

The ability to mix shades of black to add depth to all-black armours can be nice though.

MornaBaine

LonePirate wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Oh geez, it WOULD have to be something totally ridiculous, wouldn't it? SIGH I'm SO resentful that nearly ALL of the best Dyes are linked to PvP achievements. most of which I will never see. Thanks for giving us PVEers teh shaft ZOS!

What exactly is the difference between the black dye for the Legate rank and the black dye for completing the Comdharbour quests or the one for mastering vampirism? Both of those are easily obtainable.

There are actually HUGE differences in those 3 blacks. The one just for having a vampire is a Common color (it is therefore flat and faded) and is actually nothing more than a dark gray. It is NOT black. The Coldharbor black for killing Molag Bal, though a Rare color, has no sheen and is a greyish/brownish black. The Legate's Black, however, is a darker more blue-black, a much deeper hue that the Coldharbor one. Therefore I MUST have it and I am extremely annoyed ot find that, once again, those of us who primarily PvE are getting the shaft in favor of those who PvP and probably don't give a good *** about the Dyes in the first place!

cazlonb16_ESO

MornaBaine wrote: »

once again, those of us who primarily PvE are getting the shaft in favor of those who PvP

Please provide a comprehensive list of occasions this happened...Don't worry, it will be short enough and shouldn't be a lot of effort.

dharbert

Zenimax was originally going to call the dye you get from Legate "I haven't acknowledged my wife or kids for months black", but decided the name was too long.

MornaBaine

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

once again, those of us who primarily PvE are getting the shaft in favor of those who PvP

Please provide a comprehensive list of occasions this happened...Don't worry, it will be short enough and shouldn't be a lot of effort.

There is a nigh endless list of things that have been changed due to PvP "feedback" that have had a negative impact on the PvE side of the game. Feel free to search the forums for them, they aren't hard to find. I'm not saying ZOS doesn't scr3w over PvPers ever because they certainly do. But they also have a tendency to fall all over themselves trying to make PvPers happy...often at the expense of PvE. Tell me why it makes sense to give all the most vibrant and interesting colors only for PvP achievements.

Pathfinder

MornaBaine wrote: »

Oh geez, it WOULD have to be something totally ridiculous, wouldn't it? SIGH I'm SO resentful that nearly ALL of the best Dyes are linked to PvP achievements. most of which I will never see. Thanks for giving us PVEers teh shaft ZOS!

Nice, so where can I get Julianos White via PvP?

MornaBaine

Pathfinder wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Oh geez, it WOULD have to be something totally ridiculous, wouldn't it? SIGH I'm SO resentful that nearly ALL of the best Dyes are linked to PvP achievements. most of which I will never see. Thanks for giving us PVEers teh shaft ZOS!

Nice, so where can I get Julianos White via PvP?

Look, PvP is an adjunct to the game. To level in this game you HAVE to play the PvE content. PvP is SUPPOSED to be a choice. I enjoy it as an OCCASIONAL diversion. Many people don't want to play it at all. PvP gear should TOTALLY be tied to doing well in PvP. But a freaking DYE? C'mon.

Samadhi

MornaBaine wrote: »

...To level in this game you HAVE to play the PvE content. ...

This has been my biggest complaint about this game since launch to be honest.

It was supposed to be possible to play entirely as a PvP player, then they nerfed PvP exp right at launch and railroaded players into PvE content.

Tavore1138

I think the Molag Bal black is fine, if I ever get to Legate I may combine the two though just for kicks.

MornaBaine

Samadhi wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

...To level in this game you HAVE to play the PvE content. ...

This has been my biggest complaint about this game since launch to be honest.

It was supposed to be possible to play entirely as a PvP player, then they nerfed PvP exp right at launch and railroaded players into PvE content.

Honestly, it should totally be possible to do either. You SHOULD be able to go exclusively PvP or exclusively PvE AND any mixture of the two. But the dyes should really have never been tied to achievements in the first place. Levels, maybe.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO

just kill alot of people, like a virus lol

Pathfinder

MornaBaine wrote: »

To level in this game you HAVE to play the PvE content.

Well, you really only HAVE to PvE until lv10 and do the Harborage quests. I have almost exclusively leveled my latest toons in PvP since I would rather claw my eyes out than do the PvE quests again. My latest toon, now V3, was able to get 2 non-vet levels a day via PvP. and getting a vet level every 3 to 4 days.

ShadowHvo

To put it simple, the black from vampire does not even remotely come close to black, it can barely even be considered dark grey. Coldharbour Ash Black, as Morna said too is a brown-black, and not an actual Black colour.

While I haven't seen Legate's Black yet, and I dearly wish I had it, I just can't for the life of me get myself to grind for several months, if not a year in order to even get a sniff at it.

I decided to take the pleasure of making this short feedback suggestion in the feedback section of the forum: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/144643/new-dye-colour-daedric-black?new=1 That is personally something I would really like to see.

Rosveen

I'm curious how you feel about trial and dungeon dyes, Morna.

MornaBaine

Rosveen wrote: »

I'm curious how you feel about trial and dungeon dyes, Morna.

While those can also be really tough to get I know I have a better shot at them than I even will the PvP ones. I think it's lamentable that Dyes are tied to achievements in the first place really. What was the point of that? This is part of character customization and should in no way be something we have to struggle for, let alone be forced to engage in content we don't want to do in order to get.

Merlight

MornaBaine wrote: »

This is part of character customization and should in no way be something we have to struggle for...

Can we have a Disagree button?

Rosveen

MornaBaine wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

I'm curious how you feel about trial and dungeon dyes, Morna.

I think it's lamentable that Dyes are tied to achievements in the first place really. What was the point of that?

Encouraging us to do all kinds of content, obviously. It appears to be working: you're here asking about PvP ranks, one of my guilds held fishing events in the summer in preparation for incoming dyes...

I don't particularly like that so many are locked behind PvP achievements, but that's more because some are ridiculously difficult to get even for dedicated PvPers. Like the highest alliance war ranks, emperor etc. (yeah, I know everyone traded emp, but if you want to become one legitimately today...) However, I'm okay with the fact that not all dyes are handed to us freely. I think they're a nice reward for our accomplishments and the only thing that really makes achievements worthwhile. I don't feel forced to do anything, I still have a nice dye selection even without achievements I know I will never get. I think unreliability of colors is a much bigger problem; if they stopped randomly changing hue and sheen depending on the material I'm dying - and ending up a totally different color half the time - it would be great.

Hanokihs

I think there should be multiple ways of getting these colors, especially rarer ones. There's a whole crafting system designed for making things - why can't we decon and research armor/weapon hues?

I get that there should be SOME reward for achievements other than "well, you achieved something. Here's a check-mark." But I'm more than willing to level my alchemy and smithing/clothing/woodworking to 50 in order to get access to dye if it means I can avoid pvp.

MornaBaine

Hanokihs wrote: »

I think there should be multiple ways of getting these colors, especially rarer ones. There's a whole crafting system designed for making things - why can't we decon and research armor/weapon hues?

I get that there should be SOME reward for achievements other than "well, you achieved something. Here's a check-mark." But I'm more than willing to level my alchemy and smithing/clothing/woodworking to 50 in order to get access to dye if it means I can avoid pvp.

This is brilliant. If dyes simply MUST be the carrot to get us to do stuff...then the whole thing needs to be a lot more flexible.

Darlgon

First thought answer to the original thread question...

Create a Bosmer
Participate in AVA
Kill an opponent.
As part of the Green Pact, you are required to EAT your enemy.

After dinner, when asked which part was first, you can say:
"Leg Ate."

MornaBaine

Darlgon wrote: »

First thought answer to the original thread question...

Create a Bosmer
Participate in AVA
Kill an opponent.
As part of the Green Pact, you are required to EAT your enemy.

After dinner, when asked which part was first, you can say:
"Leg Ate."

ROFL! I suppose you could do the same thing with a werewolf.

Lionxoft

You gain legate by zerg balling... A lot of zerg balling.

MornaBaine

Lionxoft wrote: »

You gain legate by zerg balling... A lot of zerg balling.