Please fix the overpowered 1h+sh BLOCK

Kypho

Blockholding is too OP with 1h+sh period. Give all class a fear like skill or fix the block already.

ers101284b14_ESO

Only if they nerf all other Weapons since the weapons are OP and can do more damage than 1h+Shield.

Bloodfang

Whats with all these posts lately? Nerf this nerf that..jeez

And OP no it's not overpowered.

AshySamurai

And stop thinking only about PvP. It's pretty ok in PvE.

tplink3r1

it seems people want to kill melee builds.

Qolt

1H and Shield + light armor -- very popular combinations for all classes now. Light armor helps to spam class skills, and 1h+shield gives block bonuses.
If only other weapon skill lines have good passive for combine it with class skills...
For example Circle of Life (resto staff) was used to for bonus dmg, and most of sorcs used resto staff. Now, if the want to use only class skill, they forced to use 1h + shield.

eventide03b14a_ESO

The problem isn't the 1h+s, it's block casting. Block casting has reduced this game to magicka spamming and blocking. Sure there are bonuses to shields but you can effectively do it with a staff too.

Qolt

With 1h and shield i can block more effectively: more mitigation, and cost less stamina. Beside, 1h and shield gives me one more slot for armor sets.

I want to say: if only few people used 1h+shield, then nobody want to nerf it.

Thechemicals

Block casting is abused by
1. Dk;s - a passive that returns stamina per use of any earth skill
2. Night blades- siphoning 10% chance to return stam and magicka.

Its not block casting because everyone runs outa of stamina. However those things mentioned above, allow your to serious milk blocking for a longtime. L2P btw.

Rune_Relic

If anything the 1h+s block is underpowered....its the shields stacked on top of it that makes it OP.

Sil

Man... I use 1HShield with my imperial class Templar and
the ONLY SENSE of it is to block... You can't deal much damage, but block.
That's a shield for....

That some classes misuse combinations can't be that a skilline is nerfed which is alone for itself really not overpowered and good balanced.
It's the misuse of spamming special class skills.

kewl

1H & Shield sacrifices damage for mitigation. Take away mitigation and the weapon is useless.

You have issue with either block casting, 360 blocking or both.

Thechemicals

kewl wrote: »

1H & Shield sacrifices damage for mitigation. Take away mitigation and the weapon is useless.

You have issue with either block casting, 306 blocking or both.

Not true. Blocking is used with class skills which are very damage heavy.

JLB

No, perma-block casting is not the problem because it's open to every class in PvP. Not to mention Blocking is working perfectly fine in PvE.

In PvP, not every class is as effective using perma-block casting.
Some specific class' synergies allows certain classes to perma block everything, rarely run out of stamina to keep blocking forever, and still hit like a *** truck. There's your problem, not block mechanic itself.

tplink3r1

Thechemicals wrote: »

kewl wrote: »

1H & Shield sacrifices damage for mitigation. Take away mitigation and the weapon is useless.

You have issue with either block casting, 306 blocking or both.

Not true. Blocking is used with class skills which are very damage heavy.

you mean by DK and NB?

Kypho

Sil wrote: »

Man... I use 1HShield with my imperial class Templar and
the ONLY SENSE of it is to block... You can't deal much damage, but block.
That's a shield for....

That some classes misuse combinations can't be that a skilline is nerfed which is alone for itself really not overpowered and good balanced.
It's the misuse of spamming special class skills.

do pvp. you should not tank many ppl because you can block like hell and do dmg while blocking.

eserras7b16_ESO

Kypho wrote: »

Blockholding is too OP with 1h+sh period. Give all class a fear like skill or fix the block already.

Seriously, stop this *** already. Now 1H + shield is OP? You encountering good players has nothing to be with it.

Bow is OP (because it dels damage in far away distances HI!? boW?)
DK's are OP (Blablablabla blabla L2P)
1H and Shield are OP (because shield blocks damage O.o)
Destro staffs are OP (because they use impulse and spam block at same time)

Next thing is going to be: Restoration staffs are OP because they heal too much, nerf please.

What the hell. The game is pretty balanced right now, if you encounter people wich has been playing for 8 months with legendary gear, and a well rounded build it's normal he is stronger than you! Stop this ***.

dharbert

News flash......shields are meant for blocking. In other news, water is wet. Learn to play and stop crying.

kewl

Thechemicals wrote: »

kewl wrote: »

1H & Shield sacrifices damage for mitigation. Take away mitigation and the weapon is useless.

You have issue with either block casting, 306 blocking or both.

Not true. Blocking is used with class skills which are very damage heavy.

So your solution for an "imbalance" in two class skills is to nerf blocking across the board? PvP and PvE?

I tired not to be rude in my first post, but what you're suggesting is just nonsense.

Mettaricana

Despair9 wrote: »

Whats with all these posts lately? Nerf this nerf that..jeez

And OP no it's not overpowered.

fo real how bout buff everything up rather than nerf it

Armitas

Block builds are just speed bumps in pvp. It's annoying because you have to slow down but those players are mostly irrelevant in heavy armor. They just take time to kill, you can't dps them you have to break their stamina first.

Perma blocking comes from either heavy armor or shielding glyphs. Either way you are sacrificing offensive capacity to be a living statue. Anyone can put on heavy armor or shielding glyphs and become a tank, thats what those things are for, even in pvp.

derpsticks

I don't think blocking has been changed for a long time now. Why does this topic seem to come up all the time now?

People are using stamina builds now... so they have more stamina... to block, dodge, and run. Other things like break free and sprint cost are being reduced and players are experimenting with their builds.

If you want to hurt people while they are blocking try using some direct damage. Also try some ground based AOE. Blocking reduces movement speed. Want them to stop blocking? Throw a strong AOE on the ground and make them move, now keep doing that. Want to do more damage to them? Pick up an armor reduction / ignore armor skill/trait/enchant.

Are they doing too much damage? Try using shock based attacks. They proc concussion which reduces damage coming from those affected. Are they healing too much? Try a healing debuff skill or set or even an enchantment.

I'm also fairly certain blocking doesn't prevent bleed or poison damage from ticking. Go for a build that bleeds them down, makes them sickly so they can't heal, and AOE the crap out of where they are standing.

Jitterbug

eserras7b16_ESO wrote: »

Kypho wrote: »

Blockholding is too OP with 1h+sh period. Give all class a fear like skill or fix the block already.

Seriously, stop this *** already. Now 1H + shield is OP? You encountering good players has nothing to be with it.

Bow is OP (because it dels damage in far away distances HI!? boW?)
DK's are OP (Blablablabla blabla L2P)
1H and Shield are OP (because shield blocks damage O.o)
Destro staffs are OP (because they use impulse and spam block at same time)

Next thing is going to be: Restoration staffs are OP because they heal too much, nerf please.

What the hell. The game is pretty balanced right now, if you encounter people wich has been playing for 8 months with legendary gear, and a well rounded build it's normal he is stronger than you! Stop this ***.

I think YOU are OP (because logic)

Evergnar

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

The problem isn't the 1h+s, it's block casting. Block casting has reduced this game to magicka spamming and blocking. Sure there are bonuses to shields but you can effectively do it with a staff too.

Agree. Blocking is great in this game imo. It's the block casting that ruins it.

Sleep

It's not about 1H&S it's about blocking, specifically blocking while casting and 360 degree blocking.

Samadhi

Qolt wrote: »

1H and Shield + light armor -- very popular combinations for all classes now. Light armor helps to spam class skills, and 1h+shield gives block bonuses.
If only other weapon skill lines have good passive for combine it with class skills...
For example Circle of Life (resto staff) was used to for bonus dmg, and most of sorcs used resto staff. Now, if the want to use only class skill, they forced to use 1h + shield.

Dual Wield with two swords actually gives the same type of bonus that Restoration staff did, except only 5% instead of 10%.
Think this is also true of Two Hander with a Greatsword equipped.

ArcaneBlue

AshySamurai wrote: »

And stop thinking only about PvP. It's pretty ok in PvE.

this... so very this.
every time something gets "slightly changed" because someone got killed by that skill, it affects all pve-only players.
sure it is MMO, but a great chunk _if not the majority_ of the eso player base is made up with pve players.

Thechemicals

kewl wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

kewl wrote: »

1H & Shield sacrifices damage for mitigation. Take away mitigation and the weapon is useless.

You have issue with either block casting, 306 blocking or both.

Not true. Blocking is used with class skills which are very damage heavy.

So your solution for an "imbalance" in two class skills is to nerf blocking across the board? PvP and PvE?

I tired not to be rude in my first post, but what you're suggesting is just nonsense.

You are rude and wrong and i never made any suggestions on this thread as well..... just telling you that what you said is wrong and shouldnt be taken seriously by the community.

Spangla

tplink3r1 wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

kewl wrote: »

1H & Shield sacrifices damage for mitigation. Take away mitigation and the weapon is useless.

You have issue with either block casting, 306 blocking or both.

Not true. Blocking is used with class skills which are very damage heavy.

you mean by DK and NB?

Um lol>?

Sorc can do it too but they get a shield aswell.

and tempers can do it too with massive heals every1 can do it.

Dont make this class specific when it isnt

cozmon3c_ESO

Block should have to be dropped inorder to instant cast spells and abilities. If you are casting and then block it should cancel your spells, abilities and weapon attacks. If you are focused on an ability coming at you and block it, you should not be able to cast your halfway heavy attack as you are looking to block.

Xsorus

I realize explaining basic game mechanics to most of you is pointless, because you're going to continue to die because you're not willing to learn how to play.

But removing Block casting would simply force everyone into Shield Stacking builds....Now I realize some of you will say something completely dumb like "Well they stack shields right now and block" completely ignoring the fact that its pretty much a waste of stamina in terms of damage reduction (mainly its done for CC immunity) because Shields absorbing damage isn't reduced by Blocking (Meaning its a waste)

Anyway, Blocking is pretty much one of the few things in this game that allows the TTK not to be less then 3 bloody seconds in anything greater then a 1v1.

So in closing, L2P already..