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PvP Population Imbalance (SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!)

Goldie
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Am I understanding this right?

If players enter a campaign as a guest, the player in question is NOT counted on the population bars?

If this is so, would that faction be able to bring in players over the MAX population allowed?
Edited by Goldie on November 30, 2014 5:58AM
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  • Rylana
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    No, this was fixed a long time ago.

    If pop is locked, and you travel to player, you will be put in the queue or be told "the campaign you are trying to enter is full"

    However, I do not know if existing "travel to player" guests ALREADY in cyrodiil before it caps, are counted towards the pop cap or not.
    Edited by Rylana on November 29, 2014 1:59PM
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  • Goldie
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    This is something that should be looked into, I have seen at least 3 FULL EP groups over this last week, all while population says is LOW.
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  • Keron
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    Been asking this for a long time. Mostly have been laughed at or accused of any of the following: exaggeration , stupidity, falsification, vengeance/butthurt and others.

    More power to you for trying again. Good luck in getting any official reply .
  • Cody
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    i think that guests in the campaign before(i cant word it right. lol. hopefully you know what i mean) dont count towards the population cap.
  • Ghostbane
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    If guests have no bearing on population bars / pop-locked, that means guests can overtake the queue if in fact pop-locked. The reason the pop-lock exists is to cater to the servers stable maximum ( lawl ). Allowing an unlimited amount of players to come in doesn't make sense.
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  • Roechacca
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    Guests don't count ? Wat new devilry is this ?
  • Goldie
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    Cody wrote: »
    i think that guests in the campaign before(i cant word it right. lol. hopefully you know what i mean) dont count towards the population cap.

    That's the rumor I heard. That's crazy! I know that EP has out numbered my faction GREATLY in nearly every battle, no matter where it was on the map, while there were still gobs of them attacking Alessia, Chalman, and Drake simultaneously.

    (Gobs: Groups of enemy players numbering in the 40's or more.)

    An obvious population imbalance...
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    welcome to a day in the life of a member of the daggerfall covenant.
  • Goldie
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    Even with Dominion and Pact populations Locked, Pact has DOUBLE the number of players in the Campaign as Dominion does.

    This needs to be investigated immediately!!!!!!!!!
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  • Taonnor
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    If i try to join my guest campaign Thornblade EU and the campaign is full i stay in the queue. So i do not understand this topic...
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  • JaJaLuka
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    Taonnor, I guess it would depend on the time of day you play, your alliance plus which server you play on.
    I play on NA megaserver and tonight we had what's known as night capping again. I don't think this is cheating but it does irritate me a lot as both enemy factions hit DC at the same time while DC had the lowest population by far(not accusing anyone of an orange alliance, seemed just to be opportunistic).
    So yes, population balance is a real issue that needs addressing, but to be honest I have long given up on ZOS's ability to fix anything.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Goldie wrote: »
    Even with Dominion and Pact populations Locked, Pact has DOUBLE the number of players in the Campaign as Dominion does.

    This needs to be investigated immediately!!!!!!!!!

    This is unlikely to be true. Please provide evidence to support your supposition.
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  • Vorpan
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    I doubt they have double the numbers. It just seems that way when a large amount of EP attacks an AD keep, especially when most of AD is slow to respond to calls and only a handful are defending. I'm sure there are times when EP gets hit that they feel the same way.
  • DezIsDead
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    So let's organize the first ever cyrodill census..... Each side meet up at EP scroll temple during prime time. (Sorry EP you were chosen because your winning). Btw if this for some insane reason ever happened and people did not attack I wonder if it would still cause scroll back lag.....
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  • Kartalin
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    Should be an easy fix if this actually is happening. Just do a check on the location of the target player before allowing the transfer. But as we know there are no easy fixes in ESO.
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    Goldie wrote: »
    Even with Dominion and Pact populations Locked, Pact has DOUBLE the number of players in the Campaign as Dominion does.

    This needs to be investigated immediately!!!!!!!!!

    Goldie seems to have several QQ threads with no evidence... troll?
  • FluffiestOne
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    Galalin wrote: »
    Goldie wrote: »
    Even with Dominion and Pact populations Locked, Pact has DOUBLE the number of players in the Campaign as Dominion does.

    This needs to be investigated immediately!!!!!!!!!

    Goldie seems to have several QQ threads with no evidence... troll?

    I think he MAY just be serious...
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Galalin wrote: »
    Goldie wrote: »
    Even with Dominion and Pact populations Locked, Pact has DOUBLE the number of players in the Campaign as Dominion does.

    This needs to be investigated immediately!!!!!!!!!

    Goldie seems to have several QQ threads with no evidence... troll?

    I think he MAY just be serious...

    Being serious and being correct are not dependent upon each other to be the case.
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  • Sharee
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    Goldie wrote: »
    This is something that should be looked into, I have seen at least 3 FULL EP groups over this last week, all while population says is LOW.

    Keep in mind that one population bar(low) means anywhere between one and 49 players. 49 is such a great number that it is virtually impossible to exactly count the enemies anymore, since they move all over the place. It might well appear that there are more than they actually are.
  • Cody
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    Goldie wrote: »
    Even with Dominion and Pact populations Locked, Pact has DOUBLE the number of players in the Campaign as Dominion does.

    This needs to be investigated immediately!!!!!!!!!

    AD was that way for almost 5 months.: double the population of EP and DC, even when everything was locked. It has simply moved to EP(if what you say is true)

    ZOS thus far is either unwilling or unable to fix the problem. hopefully they work out a solution
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