Why did bow get buffed?

Koensol

What I do to fotm bow users:
1. When I hear a 'whistle' I block.
2. Use blazing shield.
3. Use shielded assault on the archer, in hopes he shoots me midflight so my blazing shield explodes on his ass.
4. Use blazing spear and puncturing sweep while he is stunned, or just spam one of these.(Since he spams snipe he cannot block)
5. Use vampires bane to snare and dot him. The snare is key here. Another option is to use deep slash, to reduce damage from the archer and additionally snare him.
6. Stay on him untill he is dead, which is usually quite fast.

Whenever needed I swap to my healing bar and heal myself or use radiant aura to get stamina back more quickly.

It really isn't that hard. Only time I die to archers is when Im dumb enough to get shot off my horse and get killed in the stun, or when there's more than 3 shooting at me. Wonderful thing is that if I'm fighting 2, the other guy who is at range helps me utilize my blazing shield, and helps me blow up his mate This happens alot its really funny.

Davadin

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Sorcs think that only they should have strong ranged damage. Again, 75% of my bow shots are blocked or reflected. Reduce that and we can discuss bow dps. I rarely die to bows.

In patch 1.5, most of my deaths shifted from being blasted by Sorc, into Sniped by 3 different people...

*glances at /sig*

Use Reflect more.

Done.

Dude when u see me in battle, u can see my wings flappin every 5-6 seconds.... (when i got the magicka to do it or tri-pots), but the damn patch makes EVERYONE grab a bow.


Pre-patch it's like the *** Harry Potter movie, now it's freakin "300"....

Yup. Be more vigilant. If you're an LA using DK (most are), then you should have the magicka to keep it up constantly.

It sucks, yup. Stop wearing LA if you want it to be less effective against you.

I never go full LA.

Pre-patch I'm either 2L/5H and experimented with 2M/5H, now i'm 7H and loving it.

Agrippa_Invisus

Davadin wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Sorcs think that only they should have strong ranged damage. Again, 75% of my bow shots are blocked or reflected. Reduce that and we can discuss bow dps. I rarely die to bows.

In patch 1.5, most of my deaths shifted from being blasted by Sorc, into Sniped by 3 different people...

*glances at /sig*

Use Reflect more.

Done.

Dude when u see me in battle, u can see my wings flappin every 5-6 seconds.... (when i got the magicka to do it or tri-pots), but the damn patch makes EVERYONE grab a bow.


Pre-patch it's like the *** Harry Potter movie, now it's freakin "300"....

Yup. Be more vigilant. If you're an LA using DK (most are), then you should have the magicka to keep it up constantly.

It sucks, yup. Stop wearing LA if you want it to be less effective against you.

I never go full LA.

Pre-patch I'm either 2L/5H and experimented with 2M/5H, now i'm 7H and loving it.

I've been experimenting with a 5H / 2M build since the patch. 1H/Shield and Dual Wield.

(yes, my Destro bomb gear is in my inventory and I can switch at a moment's notice)

Damage is down, definitely. At the same time I can bulldoze my way through situations that would have murdered me beforehand.

Oh, and snipe? Lulz. Tickles.

Joy_Division

Columba wrote: »

nope. get hit with crystal shard all the time for >1000 even with 2000 spell resist.

How is it that in every thread you claim to dodge snipes from people you can't see and tell others they need to l2p, but somehow can't avoid a crystal shard attack? Do you get distracted by the wavy arms and the huge mass purple projectiles coming your way?

Maulkin

Joy_Division wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

nope. get hit with crystal shard all the time for >1000 even with 2000 spell resist.

How is it that in every thread you claim to dodge snipes from people you can't see and tell others they need to l2p, but somehow can't avoid a crystal shard attack? Do you get distracted by the wavy arms and the huge mass purple projectiles coming your way?

Lemme tell you what you did just now.... you wasted your time.

If the bow hit for 5k, Columba would claim Frags hit him for 7k.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Half and half on the bows buffing. Sure some stuff needed buff like arrow barrage (what ever that AoE is called). But yea I do agree lethal arrow is just silly now all any one gotta do is use it 4 or 5 times and it kills some one. So yea some buffs are good and some are bad and need re-worked.

Columba

Joy_Division wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

nope. get hit with crystal shard all the time for >1000 even with 2000 spell resist.

How is it that in every thread you claim to dodge snipes from people you can't see and tell others they need to l2p, but somehow can't avoid a crystal shard attack? Do you get distracted by the wavy arms and the huge mass purple projectiles coming your way?

Does it have an audio cue? If so then I do need to l2P. It doesn't mean that crystal frag doesn't hit hard.

Soris

So much ignorant here. Saying block, dodge, don't wear light armor... Not everyone having a shield, using cheesy scrub farming builds and exploits the block and spam mechanic.

I wear medium armor on my templar, using 2h mace and im dodging more than you as long as my stamina allow me. Im thinking to drop my melee build and play with a caster or bow build because there is no point left to play as melee except you are a DK and spam reflect. The moment I go in melee, Im being hitting by endless snipe series, in each fight.

Try to drop that bow and get into the fight, being hit by multiple archers and don't use any reflect. It's possible to fire off 2 snipe and cast 3rd one before the 1st one lands on target at max range. +700 damage plus heal debuff in such rapid succession is just too much. It was before 3k dmg combo, and now, non stop lethal arrow spam from 48 meter away.. No fun here... I can't even charge at you lol

Columba

faernaa wrote: »

So much ignorant here. Saying block, dodge, don't wear light armor... Not everyone having a shield, using cheesy scrub farming builds and exploits the block and spam mechanic.

I wear medium armor on my templar, using 2h mace and im dodging more than you as long as my stamina allow me. Im thinking to drop my melee build and play with a caster or bow build because there is no point left to play as melee except you are a DK and spam reflect. The moment I go in melee, Im being hitting by endless snipe series, in each fight.

Try to drop that bow and get into the fight, being hit by multiple archers and don't use any reflect. It's possible to fire off 2 snipe and cast 3rd one before the 1st one lands on target at max range. +700 damage plus heal debuff in such rapid succession is just too much. It was before 3k dmg combo, and now, non stop lethal arrow spam from 48 meter away.. No fun here... I can't even charge at you lol

You don't need a shield to block, lol. Are you claiming that you should be able to charge into multiple enemies and survive?

Ifthir_ESO

they just need to readd the range requirement

Varicite

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

they just need to readd the range requirement

I like how 0 of these suggestions are taking into account the main goal of the changes, which is trying to raise the bow's PvE viability.

"I got killed by a bow because everybody is testing out the new changes, change it back, we want the bow to be the worst weapon choice for all aspects of the game again".

Maulkin

Varicite wrote: »

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

they just need to readd the range requirement

I like how 0 of these suggestions are taking into account the main goal of the changes, which is trying to raise the bow's PvE viability.

"I got killed by a bow because everybody is testing out the new changes, change it back, we want the bow to be the worst weapon choice for all aspects of the game again".

That is actually the problem with bow. It's a weapon that suffered in PvE but already did quite well damage wise in PvP, considering range and stealth bonuses applied. The changes might have been good for PvE but have pushed it a bit too much in PvP. And I do actually mean a bit. Nobody wants archers to be nerfed to the point of uselessness again. Even Sorcs