Name allready in use. Solution to free names that no longer play.

Turelus

It doesn't matter what MMO you play and how long it's been out there will always be people upset they weren't the first to get Drizzt.

Again though I don't see why ZOS needs to free up names, Considering we're allowed multiple spaces and special character the list of possible names you can make is beyond what the games community will ever expend.

As myself and other have posted, be original and you'll never suffer these issues.

PSLAnimal

Unknown_poster wrote: »

Just do what the OP did and add an extra L.

I see what you did there.

Nihili

Tapio75 wrote: »

Players who have not played for a long time propably wwill never play again and those really do not need names anymore.

Probably, maybe, could, might, should.

That's not enough for me, thanks.

Valen_Byte

I like ESO

KhajitFurTrader

Tapio75 wrote: »

Either that or like in WOW, where you can check from armory if the character has been unplayed for longer than 3 moths, you propably will get the name by contacting customer support. You dont get a name if sub is active, even if character has been unplayed for years, as long as sub is on, they do not free it.

If sub has been inactive for more than couple of moths, they almost allways free that name for you to use and flag the old owner of name to free name change. You do not need better reason than "I want it for my new alt" to get it done.

You're making up and spread wild and unfounded rumors. If what you claim was true, they wouldn't have done the Character Name Reclamation that they've announced before and implemented with patch 6.0.2 just a few weeks ago. In effect, they've wiped the names of characters that have been inactive for a little less than 6 years, and all you needed to do to prevent it from being done to any of your inactive characters was to log in with it.

So I call BS on your statement.

AlexDougherty

BBSooner wrote: »

No, maybe after 5 years they can start cleaning out names, losing your name should require more than just missing a month sub.

Agreed, the game hasn't been out long enough for them to start clearing out names. It needs to have been out for several years first.

Artemis wrote: »

Well, then a name should stop being a primary key. After all, there're people with exactly the same names in real life too.

Assign a personal ID number to each character that will be a primary key for the game/developers to distinguish them.

This won't work, you would need to rework the game to get it to work.
Also how would we communicate with each other in chat, it's one thing to type in a name, but another to type in an ID, it doesn't flow naturally.

Vizier

Audigy wrote: »

Either that or like in WOW, where you can check from armory if the character has been unplayed for longer than 3 moths, you propably will get the name by contacting customer support

Those cheap and rude tactics hopefully never turn up at ESO. I find it not only disrespectful but plain rude to do this at WOW.

Every person with RL will sooner or later not play for a few months or even years. To lose all your chars because of some "rude person" who wants to bully you is not acceptable.

In my opinion no player has any right to demand the removal of a char that someone else created first. Its bad luck if your name is already gone, seriously I don't have all my fav. names either at ESO.


EA did this with SWTOR and the day I lost 8 chars I stopped playing and guess what I was subbed since day one of Early Access!

At ESO we have a wonderful naming system, players can have a Surname and its just 8 chars per server so that the risk of not finding a name is very small if not impossible.

Nobody is saying they should lose their characters. Just the names. If they don't pay and don't play they have no right to a name. If reasonable time for accommodating real life issues is given I see no problem with this. If the player ever comes back and re-subs then they have to just rename their character if someone else took the name...shrug. Big deal.

Tandor

No, names should not be changed. It isn't too hard to come up with something original. I've had no problem in naming at least a dozen characters since launch, including in the last week or two.

If someone thought of the name first, why should they have to change it for someone who thought of it later, irrespective of whether they are currently playing the game?

They may have suspended play to serve in the armed forces, because they're incapacitated, or simply because they have issues with the game that may subsequently be fixed. They're entitled to return at any time and find their characters intact, names included.

Tandor

Vizier wrote: »

Six Months of not subbing. Lose your name. Absolutely and totally fair.

But what if you had subbed for many months before taking a break, and lost your name to someone who played his free month and then left? Yes, you could then re-roll six months later and start over, or petition for a name change, but why should you (and the GMs) be put to that trouble?

You thought of it first, it's your name, no-one else's. It isn't too hard for someone else to come with a different name.

Nox_Aeterna

Vizier wrote: »

Audigy wrote: »

Either that or like in WOW, where you can check from armory if the character has been unplayed for longer than 3 moths, you propably will get the name by contacting customer support

Those cheap and rude tactics hopefully never turn up at ESO. I find it not only disrespectful but plain rude to do this at WOW.

Every person with RL will sooner or later not play for a few months or even years. To lose all your chars because of some "rude person" who wants to bully you is not acceptable.

In my opinion no player has any right to demand the removal of a char that someone else created first. Its bad luck if your name is already gone, seriously I don't have all my fav. names either at ESO.


EA did this with SWTOR and the day I lost 8 chars I stopped playing and guess what I was subbed since day one of Early Access!

At ESO we have a wonderful naming system, players can have a Surname and its just 8 chars per server so that the risk of not finding a name is very small if not impossible.

Nobody is saying they should lose their characters. Just the names. If they don't pay and don't play they have no right to a name. If reasonable time for accommodating real life issues is given I see no problem with this. If the player ever comes back and re-subs then they have to just rename their character if someone else took the name...shrug. Big deal.

Again , you are assuming to many that is all.

To me (and others considering this thread alone) , the moment you take the char name , that char lose its meaning.

If i lost my chars name i would unsub right now even , if i was coming back to the game , there is 0% chance i would just rename and play the game.

I would for sure quit the game just after without even making inside the game or actually renaming the char.

Hell , names are one of the reasons i dont join MMOs after they launch usually , the fact that i cant be there second one to take the ones i want bother me.

Izzban

I don't see why some people feel so entitled here.

Let's say a player pre-ordered, got early access, named their characters. They played for a year or two (hypothetical, remember?) then decided to play something else. Joe-schmo-newcomer comes along six months later and wants that name. Now all of the support the pre-order player showed is fallen by the wayside in the path of the gimme-now, me-me-me crowd?

I say shame on you for asking for another player's name. You have no idea what reputation, achievements, trials that player has been through with that character. And yet, because you can't be bothered to put 3 full syllables together in a unique way, you want to destroy what might have been a former legend in the game.

Amazing the amount of entitlement some players feel simply because they deign to play a game.

AlexDougherty

Izzban wrote: »

I don't see why some people feel so entitled here.

Let's say a player pre-ordered, got early access, named their characters. They played for a year or two (hypothetical, remember?) then decided to play something else. Joe-schmo-newcomer comes along six months later and wants that name. Now all of the support the pre-order player showed is fallen by the wayside in the path of the gimme-now, me-me-me crowd?

I say shame on you for asking for another player's name. You have no idea what reputation, achievements, trials that player has been through with that character. And yet, because you can't be bothered to put 3 full syllables together in a unique way, you want to destroy what might have been a former legend in the game.

Amazing the amount of entitlement some players feel simply because they deign to play a game.

I partially agree, the main issue for me is that the game hasn't been out that long, and there is no way in **** all the names have been used up.

I created one just a month ago, using possibly the most predictable name for an orc ever Gruumsh Gro Bak. Gro Bak is a surname used in both Oblivion and Skyrim, and Gruumsh is a D&D orc god, this is as predictable as you can go.

Basically since we can easily create Surnames, and even Middle names, there is no way all the names have gone. So this means people are just being lazy about it.

Tankqull

easiest solution?
be creativ and not the 25th Legolasz, Gandalv, or Har`LE´Quinn...

Sindala

Easiest fix is to just use a Surname also. You can use whatever forename you want then, unless that Surname has also been taken....in which case try to be more imaginative than Dr Doom or RoCkSnOoBs ect.....

Nerouyn

Tapio75 wrote: »

Either that or like in WOW, where you can check from armory if the character has been unplayed for longer than 3 moths, you propably will get the name by contacting customer support. You dont get a name if sub is active, even if character has been unplayed for years, as long as sub is on, they do not free it.

If sub has been inactive for more than couple of moths, they almost allways free that name for you to use and flag the old owner of name to free name change. You do not need better reason than "I want it for my new alt" to get it done.

That notion horrifies me.

I take my character's names pretty seriously and if I ever unsubbed from a game, knowing that those names might be gone if I returned would be a MASSIVE disincentive to ever do so.

AlexDougherty wrote: »

This won't work, you would need to rework the game to get it to work. Also how would we communicate with each other in chat, it's one thing to type in a name, but another to type in an ID, it doesn't flow naturally.

A numeric ID would be unwieldy from the user perspective but ESO already has account handles, which are visible to other players.

Games like Star Trek Online allow non-unique character names and player communication via the account handle. You just an @ in front of the handle for tells etc.

ESO could have done something similiar. I'm personally on the fence about whether they should have but it is do-able.

michaelb14a_ESO2

Rook_Master wrote: »

I made all 8 of my alts within seconds of early launch going live, just picking random class and race.

I managed to grab extremely popular and important names in TES Lore. Then I waited a week, then quickly remade them how I actually wanted in the middle of the night.

Congrats, you win the thread's <snip> award. Name camping is jerky, lame no matter the name, and almost as sad as naming your characters using "extreamly popular and important name in TES Lore".

KenjiJU

For those who do come back, only to find their name has been taken away, will be immediate losses again. IMO this is why this would not happen.

RDMyers65b14_ESO

Here's my question. Why choose a name from a lore character in the first place? You are not that lore character. There can be only one Tiber Septim and he won't be born for another 300 years. Be unique and original. Use alternate spelling.

OrangeTheCat

I think the right solution is to internally represent the name as a combination of character name + account name (the @ name). I /feedbacked this during beta as I anticipated this problem. Ignored of course.

Nerouyn

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Here's my question. Why choose a name from a lore character in the first place? You are not that lore character. There can be only one Tiber Septim and he won't be born for another 300 years. Be unique and original. Use alternate spelling.

Cos every time a parent in the real world names a child, it's a unique and original name?

AngryNord

Rook_Master wrote: »

I made all 8 of my alts within seconds of early launch going live, just picking random class and race.

I managed to grab extremely popular and important names in TES Lore. Then I waited a week, then quickly remade them how I actually wanted in the middle of the night.

Don't tell me you're among all the "Tiper Septims" running around?

AngryNord

Nestor wrote: »

http://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/?q=namegenerator

A good thing few people play orcs, it does not create one single lore-correct orc name..

AngryNord

Tandor wrote: »

It isn't too hard to come up with something original.

Say that to all the Tyrion Lannisters and Legolases running around...

AshySamurai

Nerouyn wrote: »

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Here's my question. Why choose a name from a lore character in the first place? You are not that lore character. There can be only one Tiber Septim and he won't be born for another 300 years. Be unique and original. Use alternate spelling.

Cos every time a parent in the real world names a child, it's a unique and original name?

Mostly childs have second name (surname), so yep, most combinations are unique.

And I don't like OP idea. Hope ZOS will never implement this feature.

Rylana

I find it patently absurd that they dont just allow names with different @handles.

I was completely ticked off when "Rylana" was taken, as it was a beta name of mine. I had to add the last name of my @handle as a result.

And knowing people, its probably some long since unsubscribed bum that will never see the light of the game again.

astro74

I think the best way would be after 6 months of unsubbing the name would be changed to name2 (that they add a number after the name) then name is freed.

If someone pick the freed name they should get a warning that the name already was taken but is inactive, however if the original user resub their name will get changed to name2 while the original user gets the original name back.

This way they free up all the cool names, most will never be reactivated but for those who resub they will get their original name back...

KhajitFurTrader

astro74 wrote: »

I think the best way would be after 6 months of unsubbing the name would be changed to name2 (that they add a number after the name) then name is freed.

If someone pick the freed name they should get a warning that the name already was taken but is inactive, however if the original user resub their name will get changed to name2 while the original user gets the original name back.

This way they free up all the cool names, most will never be reactivated but for those who resub they will get their original name back...

You really expect people to a) understand, and b) accept this rule-set? Let's say someone starts playing now, gets the warning on character creation, duly clicks on it and then forgets about it. After years of playing, he logs in one day to find his name is now "name2". When talking to the new/old owner of "his" name he realizes he's lost his name to a guy who's last played in the 5 day Early Access before launch. Who has more "right" to use that name?

"Most will never be reactivated" doesn't mean "none will ever be reactivated".

The game allows having a name and surname (even 3 separate words iirc). With such extensive, canon-based character name and clan/house/family names lists for each race like the ones on UESP, finding a cool name that isn't already taken shouldn't be a problem at all.

Elsonso

Vizier wrote: »

Nobody is saying they should lose their characters. Just the names. If they don't pay and don't play they have no right to a name. If reasonable time for accommodating real life issues is given I see no problem with this. If the player ever comes back and re-subs then they have to just rename their character if someone else took the name...shrug. Big deal.

I am ok with this if you make one change....

" If the player ever comes back and re-subs then the person who took their name will have to just rename their character so that the original user of the name can resume using it."

Still_Mind

With account-based ID, I'm kind of surprised that character names MUST be unique. Fairly sure that it's somewhat redundant.

yiasemi

I look at the lore names, and then make a name similar to, and in the spirit of, but not to the letter. And never had a problem with name already taken yet. I've made and run every race except Dunmer (next) up to VR levels. Meh, no worries. I tend to agree with Still Mind too, never run into anyone with the same name as you? If not, google your name... no biggie. Despite what all the people tell you, you are not the only one who tickled Molag's sphericals in Coldharbour. Honest. C'mon ZOS let there be other running fools with the same name derived from Game of Thrones. Who cares? It's cold steel that counts, you milk drinkers. etc.