◄PVP Magicka Nightblade Tips/Tricks► (Out-Dated)
-
Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »
IKR some people just dimiss everything thats possible they see a good player thoerycraft and discover something amazing and then doubt its real lol0 -
Soulac✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Soulac haha i can get 1.5k single target on a good day
Nb power!
My builds are more on sustain instead of max Dps.. You can't deal dmg while dead, right?
But yes 1.5k Single Target is possible, but it's need to be a good day as u said... Or combine batswarm with Veiled / Funnel and Combat Prayer..
R.I.P Dawnbreaker / Auriel´s Bow
Member of the Arena Guild and the overpowered Banana Squad.
Nathaerizh aka Cat - Nightblade V16 - EU
- Meow -0 -
Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭Soulac haha i can get 1.5k single target on a good day
Nb power!
My builds are more on sustain instead of max Dps.. You can't deal dmg while dead, right?
But yes 1.5k Single Target is possible, but it's need to be a good day as u said... Or combine batswarm with Veiled / Funnel and Combat Prayer..
also out of curiosity ... if you been getting like DPS boosts sometimes randomly in cryodill? sometimes my damage increases by like 60 ish for no reason0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭You should add an itemization section in which you compare and contrast the various viable sets for your playstyle guide.
Also, I have a question. Your focus seems to be on 1v1ing. My newly v14 NB is my alt, but my main that I played from launch is a templar. On my Templar I can do single target mode for killing one person and multitarget mode for killing or at least surviving 1 vs many situations. Beyond fleeing, does a magicka nb have a viable way to 1 vs many? If so you should add a section for that.
Edited by timidobserver on October 30, 2014 1:45PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)0 -
Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »You should add an itemization section in which you compare and contrast the various viable sets for your playstyle guide.
Also, I have a question. Your focus seems to be on 1v1ing. My NB is my alt, but my main that I played from launch is a templar. On my Templar I can do single target mode for killing one person and multitarget mode for killing or at least surviving 1 vs many situations. Beyond fleeing, does a magicka nb have a viable way to 1 vs many?
Well I think of it like this if your going for more of a non-burst with more sustain
you can do around 1k-1.2k a sec. yes every skill is focused single target but thats how you will take on multiple people
The person your attacking will be getting hit very hard and will not be attacking you.
at max im able to 1v7 pugs and 1v2 if the person is a skilled player.
ill prob add a section talking about both armor and 1xX I need to update some things related to the update 5 changes which ill be doing today.0 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »Beyond fleeing, does a magicka nb have a viable way to 1 vs many?
Have you been living under a rock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqlE1bFrmMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5mRXoob1T8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBjIxlTW_rc&list=UU_q5WZtFp36adwqhKpZzxwQ
http://www.twitch.tv/sypherpk/c/5366738
http://www.twitch.tv/sypherpk/c/5366685
EU | PC | AD1 -
Soulac✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Soulac haha i can get 1.5k single target on a good day
Nb power!
My builds are more on sustain instead of max Dps.. You can't deal dmg while dead, right?
But yes 1.5k Single Target is possible, but it's need to be a good day as u said... Or combine batswarm with Veiled / Funnel and Combat Prayer..
also out of curiosity ... if you been getting like DPS boosts sometimes randomly in cryodill? sometimes my damage increases by like 60 ish for no reason
Yes, with my old build I just critted sap essence 720 and more and I don't even know why
Now sometimes I feel like getting a dmg boost for one skill and then it's away again.
No one of our bananas use War horn or combat prayer except for me.
Btw if you link one of my videos then link the new one pls.. My melee build is after the Harness nerf
R.I.P Dawnbreaker / Auriel´s Bow
Member of the Arena Guild and the overpowered Banana Squad.
Nathaerizh aka Cat - Nightblade V16 - EU
- Meow -0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭@mike.gaziotisb16_ESO
I was referring to additional information that the OP could give his perspective on in his detailed written guide not asking for "look what I can do" videos.
V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)1 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »@mike.gaziotisb16_ESO
I was referring to additional information that the OP could give his perspective on in his detailed written guide not asking for "look what I can do" videos.
My apologies then.
But you did explicitly ask if it's possible to 1vX without having to flee. Which ofc is more than possible.EU | PC | AD0 -
Synozeer✭✭✭✭✭You guys are funny. There's no such thing as nightblad... STAB.Watch my PvP Videos on YouTube
Azoi - Nightblade - Daggerfall Covenant - NA Server - 1st DC NA Grand Overlord
Hzarn - Templar - Daggerfall Covenant - NA Server - Grand Overlord
...and many more.1 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »@mike.gaziotisb16_ESO
I was referring to additional information that the OP could give his perspective on in his detailed written guide not asking for "look what I can do" videos.
My apologies then.
But you did explicitly ask if it's possible to 1vX without having to flee. Which ofc is more than possible.
Again the point was to say that my new NB alt just hit v14 recently and suggest that the info be added to the guide if it were possible. A written guide is much easier analyze while at work on a mobile phone.
However, thanks for trying to help.
V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)0 -
Sublime✭✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »The skills that fall in this category of spells that are mitigated by armor are:
DK
- Lava Whip
- Searing Strike (initial strike, not the DoT)
- Stone Fist
Templar
- Puncutring Strikes
NB
- Teleport Strike
- Veiled Strike
- Assassin's Blade
- Death Stroke (although I believe, it stopped receiving stealth dmg bonus recently as it's an ult)
Does this mean that the dmg of these class abilities are increased by Weapon power? I could have have sworn that DK whip, for instance, is spell power / weapon crit.
Their dmg scales purely from spell dmg & max magicka. However they are mitigated by Armor (not Spell Res) and they crit with Weapon Crit (not spell crit). And they are not spells because they bypass Harness Magicka (which absorbs spells), so the game doesn't see them as spells.
Basically they are spells, but they are not spells. I'm not sure what confuses you guys, this is so straightforward XD
So do I now have to go for armor or spell pen?EU | For those who want to improve their behaviour: the science behind shaping player bahaviour (presentation)0 -
Father✭✭✭Anyone here tried the other morph of crippling grasp, " Debilitate" ?? I havn't noticed any slow attack changes on my opponents in pvp or pve
0 -
Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »The skills that fall in this category of spells that are mitigated by armor are:
DK
- Lava Whip
- Searing Strike (initial strike, not the DoT)
- Stone Fist
Templar
- Puncutring Strikes
NB
- Teleport Strike
- Veiled Strike
- Assassin's Blade
- Death Stroke (although I believe, it stopped receiving stealth dmg bonus recently as it's an ult)
Does this mean that the dmg of these class abilities are increased by Weapon power? I could have have sworn that DK whip, for instance, is spell power / weapon crit.
Their dmg scales purely from spell dmg & max magicka. However they are mitigated by Armor (not Spell Res) and they crit with Weapon Crit (not spell crit). And they are not spells because they bypass Harness Magicka (which absorbs spells), so the game doesn't see them as spells.
Basically they are spells, but they are not spells. I'm not sure what confuses you guys, this is so straightforward XD
So do I now have to go for armor or spell pen?
suprise attack will reduce your armor by 40% anyway. so you cant really have armor to counter it0 -
Father✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »The skills that fall in this category of spells that are mitigated by armor are:
DK
- Lava Whip
- Searing Strike (initial strike, not the DoT)
- Stone Fist
Templar
- Puncutring Strikes
NB
- Teleport Strike
- Veiled Strike
- Assassin's Blade
- Death Stroke (although I believe, it stopped receiving stealth dmg bonus recently as it's an ult)
Does this mean that the dmg of these class abilities are increased by Weapon power? I could have have sworn that DK whip, for instance, is spell power / weapon crit.
Their dmg scales purely from spell dmg & max magicka. However they are mitigated by Armor (not Spell Res) and they crit with Weapon Crit (not spell crit). And they are not spells because they bypass Harness Magicka (which absorbs spells), so the game doesn't see them as spells.
Basically they are spells, but they are not spells. I'm not sure what confuses you guys, this is so straightforward XD
So do I now have to go for armor or spell pen?
suprise attack will reduce your armor by 40% anyway. so you cant really have armor to counter it
Armor debuffs are useless, stacking armor is useless... wearing heavy armor is useless... why? Just watch this, I found this in another thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGsij-82C8 1 -
IxSTALKERxI✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nice tips Araxleon. You're NB builds are extremely viable when in the right hands. Takes a decent player to pull it off though.
I personally prefer my sap tank which pretty much involves shield charging into a group of 50 enemies and 90 seconds later dying after earning 7,500 AP haha.
Also cool to see someone linked one of my vids above A good thread all round. NA | PC | Aldmeri DominionLaser Eyes AR 26 Arcanist | Stalker V AR 41 Warden | I Stalker I AR 42 NB | Stalkersaurus AR 31 Templar | Stalker Ill AR 31 Sorc | Nigel the Great of BlackwaterFormer Emperor x11 campaign cyclesVenatus Officer | RIP RÁGE | YouTube Channel0 -
Sublime✭✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »The skills that fall in this category of spells that are mitigated by armor are:
DK
- Lava Whip
- Searing Strike (initial strike, not the DoT)
- Stone Fist
Templar
- Puncutring Strikes
NB
- Teleport Strike
- Veiled Strike
- Assassin's Blade
- Death Stroke (although I believe, it stopped receiving stealth dmg bonus recently as it's an ult)
Does this mean that the dmg of these class abilities are increased by Weapon power? I could have have sworn that DK whip, for instance, is spell power / weapon crit.
Their dmg scales purely from spell dmg & max magicka. However they are mitigated by Armor (not Spell Res) and they crit with Weapon Crit (not spell crit). And they are not spells because they bypass Harness Magicka (which absorbs spells), so the game doesn't see them as spells.
Basically they are spells, but they are not spells. I'm not sure what confuses you guys, this is so straightforward XD
So do I now have to go for armor or spell pen?
suprise attack will reduce your armor by 40% anyway. so you cant really have armor to counter it
Armor debuffs are useless, stacking armor is useless... wearing heavy armor is useless... why? Just watch this, I found this in another threadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGsij-82C8
Does this also hold for spell pen or is this working?
EU | For those who want to improve their behaviour: the science behind shaping player bahaviour (presentation)0 -
Lava_Croft✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭
OMG, Legendary Mage nekkid! So Sexy.Armor debuffs are useless, stacking armor is useless... wearing heavy armor is useless... why? Just watch this, I found this in another threadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGsij-82C8
0 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »The skills that fall in this category of spells that are mitigated by armor are:
DK
- Lava Whip
- Searing Strike (initial strike, not the DoT)
- Stone Fist
Templar
- Puncutring Strikes
NB
- Teleport Strike
- Veiled Strike
- Assassin's Blade
- Death Stroke (although I believe, it stopped receiving stealth dmg bonus recently as it's an ult)
Does this mean that the dmg of these class abilities are increased by Weapon power? I could have have sworn that DK whip, for instance, is spell power / weapon crit.
Their dmg scales purely from spell dmg & max magicka. However they are mitigated by Armor (not Spell Res) and they crit with Weapon Crit (not spell crit). And they are not spells because they bypass Harness Magicka (which absorbs spells), so the game doesn't see them as spells.
Basically they are spells, but they are not spells. I'm not sure what confuses you guys, this is so straightforward XD
So do I now have to go for armor or spell pen?
suprise attack will reduce your armor by 40% anyway. so you cant really have armor to counter it
Armor debuffs are useless, stacking armor is useless... wearing heavy armor is useless... why? Just watch this, I found this in another threadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGsij-82C8
Does this also hold for spell pen or is this working?
No, that's even more broken. With a sharpened weapon you can completely bypass all the target's spell res.EU | PC | AD1 -
Sublime✭✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »The skills that fall in this category of spells that are mitigated by armor are:
DK
- Lava Whip
- Searing Strike (initial strike, not the DoT)
- Stone Fist
Templar
- Puncutring Strikes
NB
- Teleport Strike
- Veiled Strike
- Assassin's Blade
- Death Stroke (although I believe, it stopped receiving stealth dmg bonus recently as it's an ult)
Does this mean that the dmg of these class abilities are increased by Weapon power? I could have have sworn that DK whip, for instance, is spell power / weapon crit.
Their dmg scales purely from spell dmg & max magicka. However they are mitigated by Armor (not Spell Res) and they crit with Weapon Crit (not spell crit). And they are not spells because they bypass Harness Magicka (which absorbs spells), so the game doesn't see them as spells.
Basically they are spells, but they are not spells. I'm not sure what confuses you guys, this is so straightforward XD
So do I now have to go for armor or spell pen?
suprise attack will reduce your armor by 40% anyway. so you cant really have armor to counter it
Armor debuffs are useless, stacking armor is useless... wearing heavy armor is useless... why? Just watch this, I found this in another threadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGsij-82C8
Does this also hold for spell pen or is this working?
No, that's even more broken. With a sharpened weapon you can completely bypass all the target's spell res.
Ok thanks so nirnhoned is actually a good new implementation for once. :>EU | For those who want to improve their behaviour: the science behind shaping player bahaviour (presentation)0 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I actually have no idea about Nirnhorned, I can't test it myself as in the last 2 months I've spent 98% of my game time in Cyro. The rest 2%, I was queuing to get in.
Lost all interested in PvE shortly after completing the first 2 trials and getting two toons to v14.EU | PC | AD0 -
Sublime✭✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »I actually have no idea about Nirnhorned, I can't test it myself as in the last 2 months I've spent 98% of my game time in Cyro. The rest 2%, I was queuing to get in.
Lost all interested in PvE shortly after completing the first 2 trials and getting two toons to v14.
I actually just said nirnhooned because it also contained spell pen or is the exessive damage of sharpened only linked to this trait because of a bug?EU | For those who want to improve their behaviour: the science behind shaping player bahaviour (presentation)0 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »I actually have no idea about Nirnhorned, I can't test it myself as in the last 2 months I've spent 98% of my game time in Cyro. The rest 2%, I was queuing to get in.
Lost all interested in PvE shortly after completing the first 2 trials and getting two toons to v14.
I actually just said nirnhooned because it also contained spell pen or is the exessive damage of sharpened only linked to this trait because of a bug?
Well it must be a bug since 14% spell penetration with a gold weapon and 28% (is it?) from 7/7 light, does not make 100%.
Whether that same bug exists with nirnhoned weaps, as I said, I have no clue.EU | PC | AD0 -
Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »I actually have no idea about Nirnhorned, I can't test it myself as in the last 2 months I've spent 98% of my game time in Cyro. The rest 2%, I was queuing to get in.
Lost all interested in PvE shortly after completing the first 2 trials and getting two toons to v14.
I actually just said nirnhooned because it also contained spell pen or is the exessive damage of sharpened only linked to this trait because of a bug?
Nirnhoned on weapons procs a spell resistance buff, not spell pen.
Pretty much the exact opposite of Sharpened.0 -
Sublime✭✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »I actually have no idea about Nirnhorned, I can't test it myself as in the last 2 months I've spent 98% of my game time in Cyro. The rest 2%, I was queuing to get in.
Lost all interested in PvE shortly after completing the first 2 trials and getting two toons to v14.
I actually just said nirnhooned because it also contained spell pen or is the exessive damage of sharpened only linked to this trait because of a bug?
Nirnhoned on weapons procs a spell resistance buff, not spell pen.
Pretty much the exact opposite of Sharpened.
Nirnhoned GS
Sorry?EU | For those who want to improve their behaviour: the science behind shaping player bahaviour (presentation)0 -
Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »I actually have no idea about Nirnhorned, I can't test it myself as in the last 2 months I've spent 98% of my game time in Cyro. The rest 2%, I was queuing to get in.
Lost all interested in PvE shortly after completing the first 2 trials and getting two toons to v14.
I actually just said nirnhooned because it also contained spell pen or is the exessive damage of sharpened only linked to this trait because of a bug?
Nirnhoned on weapons procs a spell resistance buff, not spell pen.
Pretty much the exact opposite of Sharpened.
Nirnhoned GS
Sorry?
Interesting, I stand corrected. : )
I do know that Sharpened is currently bugged to get the values that it actually gets, but no idea about Nirnhoned being bugged in the same manner.0 -
Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭From those who've tested I've heard that nirnhorned is bugged the same as sharpened.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
Too Much Bolt Escape - banned for "hacking the game to create movement not otherwise permitted by in game mechanics."
Ezareth VR16 AD Sorc - Rank 36 - Axe NA
Ezareth-Ali VR16 DC NB - Rank 20 - Chillrend NA
Ezareth PvP on Youtube0
