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Another round of layoffs :(
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Stratti✭✭✭✭✭Im guessing noone read the article - I hadnt . No I did. Here is a very relevant paragraph copy and pasted
"Now that the game is out and a community has been built around it, the publisher saw the need to "adjust staffing" accordingly, also reassuring that the studio "continues to operate with a large work force."
"We remain strongly committed to The Elder Scrolls Online, and continue to invest heavily to develop new content for PC and Mac players, prepare the game for its console launch, and handle our planned expansion into important international territories," Bethesda said of the game's future."
/end thread
This statement exists only to reassure the investors and the subscribers; there is really no information here that hadn't been around before. And yes, I'd say that a good many of us read it. The point seems to be that you accept this press release at face value. But not everyone does.
I hope it's true, I want it to be true. Call me cynical, but I'm sure the company is counting on many of us feeling that way.
Lets check that statement out "reassure the investors"
Who are you talking about its a private equity company we have no idea who they are - This is different to Blizzard which is publicly listed through its whoever parent (I forgotten)
"Press release at face value"
Yes when the OP refers to it as proof of something without reading it. Its a normal part of the cycle. If you want to argue that is your business - this is the internet your able to have whatever opinion you like. Others may join you as well. You can point to the sky and cool it green - water and call it dry. It won't change the facts.
I'm seriously wondering about your reading comprehension, mate. The venture capital company is known, look at the company About page here:
http://www.zenimax.com/about
...which I've already linked to, and the press releases here:
http://www.zenimax.com/press
Note particularly the entry for Oct 6, 2010, and then look at the board of directors. You'll see that this information is quite public. There is nothing mysterious about this. And no, I'm not making any of this up.
As for "face value," what I take that to mean that was the poster's attitude. If it isn't, then it's up to him, not you, to say otherwise. When it comes to corporate dealings, it's wise not to take everything they say on faith. Or don't you agree with that, either?
My comprehension is fine maybe your understanding of investors is skewed.
A private venture capital company owns the company . Yes they are invested however when people talk about a silly article pandering to investors they mean public investors and the share market. Private companies don't need to worry because they are involved in the company and have control of the board and all department heads. There is a huge difference.
As to your second point perhaps your understanding is confused. Faith and face value has nothing to do with it. Lay offs and explanations of them are not factual - we have no idea because it is a PRIVATE company and doesn't need to disclose anything except what is part of its charter to disclose.2 -
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✭FlinkeKlinge wrote: »
And you know that is not so, because.....?Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
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Moomins✭✭✭@Cogo,
I shall await details of your next adventure with interest!
I must say that I applaud your usage of Heavy Armor, something that I use myself for my high elf Templar who is a great tank - even though some have questioned her abilities without ever seeing her in action. I have been told to use light armor but tbh, I don't feel the need to do so, and have happily played since early access, and got through six vet levels so far with no problems
God luck out there, I hope to see you in game some time
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FlinkeKlinge✭✭✭FlinkeKlinge wrote: »
And you know that is not so, because.....?
I don´t, neither do you.
I only voiced my concerns.
Let´s not turn this thread into our own privat battlefield, though ;P
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Cogo✭✭✭✭✭
✭@Cogo,
I shall await details of your next adventure with interest!
I must say that I applaud your usage of Heavy Armor, something that I use myself for my high elf Templar who is a great tank - even though some have questioned her abilities without ever seeing her in action. I have been told to use light armor but tbh, I don't feel the need to do so, and have happily played since early access, and got through six vet levels so far with no problems
God luck out there, I hope to see you in game some time
WoW! Some as me....did you get kicked from public instanced dungeons around level 30-45 june, as well?
I took my time! I am Vet 6. STILL same heavy 5 and 2 stamina as in may. Sure, I had to learn to tank well....but wow...tanking now in heavy is soooooo easy!
Fun to see other tanks. While all where running around in light, I had to learn to move, block, interupt, don't stand in red. And learn to manage my stamina.
With the past month changes, I never go low on stamina.....even could change a few enchants to other things.
Another point. I never been interested in PvP. But Cyrodiil in large fights are fun.
I have noticed....even the best pvpers there....they do not MOVE, or block.
Its fun to kill a PvP player who is VASTLY better then me, Vet 12, probebly with the "best" setup. and I kill them, because I move, block, roll. They dont. And they wear light armor which I love enemies who does! ;-)
Break free? Oh...it cost me nothing! No abuse, its my setup, which I had since launch.Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
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.FlinkeKlinge wrote: »
And you know that is not so, because.....?
Those listings were most likely made by the HR department. Management has most likely decided they were far enough in development that they no longer needed the extra workers. HR is probably in the process of sorting out who needs to be hired now and any severance packages or layoff details they need to work out. If any of you are concerned about the labor practices of Zenimax, you need to learn how companies actually work first. Layoffs rarely mean that a company is on the verge of collapse. Blizzard just laid off workers. You think that Blizzard is going to have delays of developed content or bug fixes?
tl;dr: There's a huge difference between layoffs and Chapter 11.Proud Player of The Elder Bank Screen Online.
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TaffyIX✭✭✭FlinkeKlinge wrote: »I wasn´t really concerned by this article,
until i looked up the Jobs listing site, at zenimax.com.
A few weeks back, they where hiring for over 20 positions, from system admins to artists, for ESO.
Now that list got greatly reduced. So they not only laid off workers, they aren´t hiring new development related ones.
This indeed concerns me, a bit.![:\](https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
Um....dude. The job list got less because people got HIRED!
And guess where some of them come from? The "laid off" people.
Careful @Cogo, you are at risk of talking way too much sense in this thread
Might I suggest you tone it back a tad, and possibly also fetch a pitch fork?
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✭FlinkeKlinge wrote: »I wasn´t really concerned by this article,
until i looked up the Jobs listing site, at zenimax.com.
A few weeks back, they where hiring for over 20 positions, from system admins to artists, for ESO.
Now that list got greatly reduced. So they not only laid off workers, they aren´t hiring new development related ones.
This indeed concerns me, a bit.
Um....dude. The job list got less because people got HIRED!
And guess where some of them come from? The "laid off" people.
Careful @Cogo, you are at risk of talking way too much sense in this thread
Might I suggest you tone it back a tad, and possibly also fetch a pitch fork?
Oops! guilty as charged. Been here to long anyway! Where gonna log in a few hours ago when I saw this! Hehe. I do need to learn! I do talk to much positive things, and talk!
I woun't hide I have not done it before either.
Game time! I got Vet 6 area to explore!Oghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
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Cogo✭✭✭✭✭
✭FlinkeKlinge wrote: »FlinkeKlinge wrote: »
And you know that is not so, because.....?
I don´t, neither do you.
I only voiced my concerns.
Let´s not turn this thread into our own privat battlefield, though ;P
Oh, sorry! I meant no disrespect! I just like discussions!
Maybe I should put a smiley on the reply.
In my blood, there is free speech. You can be as "wrong" as you want to in my view. You still have the right to say whatever. As I have to say stuff too.....
However, just because people don't agree, does not mean they have to argue in anger.
I just check the jobs. DAMN! This one I would love too have! And I do fill most requirements.
http://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/199
Just, I live in Sweden. I love America.....Awesome to go on vacation. But not sure I'd like to move there. The ESO EU server is here and cool!Edited by Cogo on September 4, 2014 11:58AMOghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
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kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »I mean when you are behind on console release, have almost an entire game overhaul planned and plan to expand to international territories why wouldn't it be normal to lay off staff?
Depends on the Departments. Do you need 300 English Speaking CS reps for a Japanese release? Or would you let go 300 English speakers and hire 300 Japanese speakers? They have no plans to fully overhaul the game. So yeah it can be normal.
The champion system is about as close to an overhaul as you can get without quite crossing the line. No softcaps, no vet levels, all VR gear changed to level 50, changed set bonuses, changed mats for crafting, changed enchanting, changed alchemy, changed provisioning, change to every crafting profession, changed skills, changed passives and an entire new set of passives. How much is left that isn't being changed?
The rest of the game that isn't related to veteran/champion levels?
There's some other tweaking to other parts of the game but that is standard for any MMO as such a game is constantly evolving, and not one that is ever "finished" (which makes a mockery of those whose sole aim is to "finish" it).
How much of the "rest of the game" isn't related to champion system? I guess horses, some of the cities but even that will change a lot with the Justice system. I guess the art is the same but as far as the combat system I don't see a single part that won't change in some way except for some of the 1-49 play but a lot of that will change with changes to soft caps, passives, skills and sets.
The champion system will not impact the 1-49 portion of the game at all, the champion system doesn't unlock to a character until they are level 50.
Except they said they will have to remove soft caps, change sets, change passive and change skills to accommodate the additional changes of the Chapmion system, all of which impacts 1-49 play. They also said they will have to change enchanting, alchemy and provisioning but no one is clear on what that will mean either. Another smaller impact will be everyone will be level 50 meaning they can rack up VPs killing anything 45+ so colharbour could be impacted as well. Of course they refuse to give any details about how all this will be implemented.0 -
Moomins✭✭✭@cogo, I have had problems grouping with others in dungeons since level 35. Still, onward and upwards for us heavy armor tanks lol. Just glad to have met someone here who not only understands business, but also bucks against the "received wisdom" in game Good for you! Off now to play the game
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RazorRex✭✭Just to add to the discussion of layoffs, on the Elder Scrolls Online Players Facebook Page, a dev by the name of "Mike Breault" stopped by to give this tidbit:
"These were layoffs of permanent staff who had been on the project for years. I was one of them. I was the writer for the AvA team, who wrote everything in Cyrodiil and the Imperial City. I had been at ZOS for a little over two years. Someone else on the AvA team who was also laid off had been on the team for four years. We were not contract workers and we were also not hired for "launch." We were there long, long before that time. Anyone who tells you the layoffs were of contract workers or people who were hired specifically to launch the game either doesn't know what he/she is saying or is lying to you. You can look me up in the game's credits and also look me up on MobyGames.com (site that tracks credits in the games industry) to see what I've done. First time I've been laid off in 30 years in the industry."
I mean you can totally believe that he's not a fake Facebook account or anything, but this is just crazy if he was really one of 20 Devs that were working on content and got laid off.. He goes on to say over 100+ people in CS jobs were let go also."Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win." -Sun Tzu3 -
Srugzal✭✭✭✭✭.Just to add to the discussion of layoffs, on the Elder Scrolls Online Players Facebook Page, a dev by the name of "Mike Breault" stopped by to give this tidbit:
"These were layoffs of permanent staff who had been on the project for years. I was one of them. I was the writer for the AvA team, who wrote everything in Cyrodiil and the Imperial City. I had been at ZOS for a little over two years. Someone else on the AvA team who was also laid off had been on the team for four years. We were not contract workers and we were also not hired for "launch." We were there long, long before that time. Anyone who tells you the layoffs were of contract workers or people who were hired specifically to launch the game either doesn't know what he/she is saying or is lying to you. You can look me up in the game's credits and also look me up on MobyGames.com (site that tracks credits in the games industry) to see what I've done. First time I've been laid off in 30 years in the industry."
I mean you can totally believe that he's not a fake Facebook account or anything, but this is just crazy if he was really one of 20 Devs that were working on content and got laid off.. He goes on to say over 100+ people in CS jobs were let go also.
Wow.Edited by Srugzal on September 5, 2014 2:26AM1 -
DBHAShadow✭✭Im guessing noone read the article - I hadnt . No I did. Here is a very relevant paragraph copy and pasted
"Now that the game is out and a community has been built around it, the publisher saw the need to "adjust staffing" accordingly, also reassuring that the studio "continues to operate with a large work force."
"We remain strongly committed to The Elder Scrolls Online, and continue to invest heavily to develop new content for PC and Mac players, prepare the game for its console launch, and handle our planned expansion into important international territories," Bethesda said of the game's future."
/end thread
This statement exists only to reassure the investors and the subscribers; there is really no information here that hadn't been around before. And yes, I'd say that a good many of us read it. The point seems to be that you accept this press release at face value. But not everyone does.
I hope it's true, I want it to be true. Call me cynical, but I'm sure the company is counting on many of us feeling that way.
Yes, because companies are allowed to lie to their investors about earnings and lull them into a false sense of security to keep them investing, and nothing bad comes from that, I mean that's why Enron is still around.. oh wait, I uh, had something for this.i'm not senDing sublIminal mEssages.1 -
shiva7663✭✭✭I've read that the names of the people who were laid off will be expunged from the game's Credits listing, disrespecting the years of work they put into the game.0
