Does Elder Scrolls Online need a duel system ?

kitsinni

No

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

I don't see the harm. It would be nice to practice different builds before entering Cyrodiil. To the people that said no, nobody is forcing you to participate. There is majority support for this. Just because there is something similar to another MMO doesn't make it a clone. A good idea is a good idea period.

The issue is the cyrodil is not built on 1v1 battles. It is built on team vs team battles. As soon as you introduce dueling the forums rage with Nerf posts and demands that things are changed so that the duels are more even which changes the balance of Cryodil totally.

theyancey

Yes

It would not interest me but this seems like an easy addition that would please some and would not have any negative impact on others games.

Sallington

Yes

It's very low on my priority list, and I probably wouldn't even use the feature much.

More choices/features = always yes

TehMagnus

Yes

kitsinni wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

I don't see the harm. It would be nice to practice different builds before entering Cyrodiil. To the people that said no, nobody is forcing you to participate. There is majority support for this. Just because there is something similar to another MMO doesn't make it a clone. A good idea is a good idea period.

The issue is the cyrodil is not built on 1v1 battles. It is built on team vs team battles. As soon as you introduce dueling the forums rage with Nerf posts and demands that things are changed so that the duels are more even which changes the balance of Cryodil totally.

Who cares about Cyrodill?

And no it won't come to that as long as you don't create some sort of Arena where people go to 1v1 and actually WIN something. There will always be people crying no matter what you do but those will be ignored.

Some NA and EU guilds have been doing duels in Cyrodill and I don't see any of them complaining balance in forums.

kitsinni

No

magnusnet wrote: »

kitsinni wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

I don't see the harm. It would be nice to practice different builds before entering Cyrodiil. To the people that said no, nobody is forcing you to participate. There is majority support for this. Just because there is something similar to another MMO doesn't make it a clone. A good idea is a good idea period.

The issue is the cyrodil is not built on 1v1 battles. It is built on team vs team battles. As soon as you introduce dueling the forums rage with Nerf posts and demands that things are changed so that the duels are more even which changes the balance of Cryodil totally.

Who cares about Cyrodill?

And no it won't come to that as long as you don't create some sort of Arena where people go to 1v1 and actually WIN something. There will always be people crying no matter what you do but those will be ignored.

Some NA and EU guilds have been doing duels in Cyrodill and I don't see any of them complaining balance in forums.

Who cares about cyrodil .. pretty much the population keeping this game going.

If dueling didn't lead to forum rage and screaming nerf it would be the first game in history for that to happen.

kitsinni

No

Also if you don't care about Cryodil why do you care about fighting other players in the first place, since that is the only place that happens?

BBSooner

Need, no? Could it have it, sure.

I say this every time:

Add a basement to every capitol city fighters guild and make it a giant sparring floor (a la TES:IV). Allow duels to only take place in these large sparring floors. Instance them to give them their own zone chat and keep it away from the general populace. Add practice dummies to benchmark dps for an added extra.

AVCN

Yes

Give the players "yes" / "no" duel options or set small zones or repeatable quests which allow duels. No, I don't know if its possible or how hard it would be. But I think it would be cool. Yes, there are issues. Example: You walk around and see a PvP duel. Should you be allowed to enter the fray, like those Cryomancer Vs Pyromancer NPC duels?
Small phased duel zones/dungeons would be nice. Maybe even tournments.

leandro.800ub17_ESO

Yes

Yes it should but not everywhere, no duel in towns or near dungeon entrances.

Shunravi

Yes

Cross-faction duels have been going on since launch. Sure, they are not an official function of the system, but they happen. Daily.

All I want is to be able to do the same with members of my own faction.

Now, the word 'need' is a bit strong, as the game doesn't 'need' an official system because players are already doing it. But it would certainly be nice. Heck, restrict it to the imperial city arena for all I care.

Now if they made it a world option, that would be great; so long as the default option for auto decline is 'on'. No invite spam thanks.

Araflin

No

If they DO put a duel (A prearranged contest with deadly weapons between two people in order to settle a point of honour) system in, I sincerely hope they bring in a need to have a "gauntlet of challenge", a "glove of ridicule", or a "Trout of combat!" to boost those of us who don't care but would happily craft / fish up the said items for those that want them.

p.s. dual (Consisting of two parts, elements, or aspects).

RSram

Yes

I'd like to see it implemented, but only as an option, not forced on the players. The AD alliance already has a quest line for this, I believe it's the Reaper's March zone, and it was fun.

The players would first have to pass the tryouts fighting several progressively harder NPC duels to make the cut. Once the player makes the cut, he is placed on the leader board and he and his opponent agrees to a date and time to fight. Other players can enter the virtual area and watch the duels.

I'd like to see it implemented in each alliance based on the player's level, like the weight division in boxing: Level 10, 20, 30, 40, VR1, VR10, etc. This would give players of various levels an opportunity to complete with those of the same level, or close to the same level. These divisions could also be divided by class skills, and then the winners of the class skills in each division could duel to determine who the champion of the alliance is.

Once the champion is determined in each alliance, the three champions will flip virtual coin winners to see which alliance champions will duel first. The winner of that duel will duel the remaining alliance champion. The finalist would then duel the reigning champion. The winner from this duel would be crowned the "Champion of Tamriel" and receive enhancements to their abilities, weapons, and armor. When a new champion is crowned, the old one loses the enhancements. The reigning champion’s enhanced abilities are removed during the duel.

There would be a "Champion of Tamriel" for each level division: Level 10, 20, 30, 40, VR1, VR10, etc.

I think this would be cool.

Woogawoman

No

I voted No because of the word "need." I get that folks would like it, but I don't see is a requirement for every MMO out there.

Nocturnalfox

All I'm saying is, he ruined dueling for me...
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epoling

No

This poll was flawed at the outset. Using the word "Need" automatically made me vote no. We need more high level solo stuff, we need some interesting new stuff for the folks that like to do PvP (from what I have heard), we need class balancing, we need the devs to finish a lot of things they have on their plates. The ability for one person to virtually smash another person to bits is not high on my list of needs for ESO. If the question was "Would you object to duels being put in the game" my answer would have been "fine, just make sure other stuff gets in as well".

Obscure

Yes

My actual vote is "OK sure.", which just aligns more with Yes than No.

Duels are already in the game. One of my five allotted guilds is a dueling guild. It's a purely player driven activity. Like it or not it's happening regardless. It would be a welcomed addition to implement game mechanics for it to prevent greifing by other players who just want to screw with the duels. But not needed for them to occur.

Don't want it supported? I don't give a ***.
Want it supported? I equally do not give a ***.

Duels are happening and will continue to happen, mechanics being added for them or not.

Vizier

Yes

Yes- It's called open world PvP. Bring it to all.

Yusuf

Yes

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

granty2008cyb16_ESO wrote: »

ok not another mmo why have pvp at all why have swords and mounts and sets of armor is that the best reason you could come up with and why would it affect you if you didn't have to use it ?

because dueling is not real pvp. It is just staged combat. It's a way for pve'rs to pretend they pvp and brag endlessly about their skill.
no thx.

I bet you don't stand a chance without your guild.

SG_Celerrimus

Yes

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Fun Fact: Adding features that are successful that people of the player base specifically ask the devs for doesn't make it a clone game, its just causing the game to grow and become more enjoyable for some people in the playerbase.

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ryanmjmcevoy_ESO

Yes

I shouldn't be surprised at the amount of "No" votes over stupid semantics. I'm sure the OP didn't actually mean to imply dueling was a necessity, and even said "should" in the actual post.

Dueling is fun, and it can help players optimize builds by testing against friends. And sometimes it's just plain fun to murder your friends, ain't it?

DieAlteHexe

No

Only opposition I have to this is WHERE people end up choosing to duel. Nothing like the bank being completely clogged with the duelers or other areas that folks wish to get into and out of.

If that can be avoided, and there's an "auto-decline" option, fine by me.

ETA: BTW, that "no" vote up there? Incorrect. I hadn't even voted. Not sure what to think about this. Makes me wonder about the veracity of these polls. I wrote my reply and ran off to get my coffee and upon returning, noticed I was down for "no".

Phinix1

Yes

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

No, because this is not every other MMO!

I agree! They should remove loot, and monsters, and swords, and dungeons, and magic, and grass, and vendors, and boobs...

I mean, every other MMO has that. What is this, a clone?

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Only opposition I have to this is WHERE people end up choosing to duel. Nothing like the bank being completely clogged with the duelers or other areas that folks wish to get into and out of.

If that can be avoided, and there's an "auto-decline" option, fine by me.

^ THIS.

Chelos

No

I completely don't need a duelling system, I don't need PvP either but that's another thing.
But I would not be opposed to including duelling as long as I get an option to not be available for duelling requests.

R0M2K

Yes

Why can some one vote NO?

More options to do things is always good, besides you are not forced to Duel.

Phinix1

Yes

R0M2K wrote: »

Why can some one vote NO?

More options to do things is always good, besides you are not forced to Duel.

I think it is like reverse psychology. Some people are just compelled to be contrarians without having any actual reason, or just to troll people's polls because that's a thing some personality types get off on.

The one legit concern others have mentioned is to make sure you can only do this OUTSIDE OF TOWN or other trade/quest/social areas.

Other than that, the only reason to be against it it because you like taking choices away from others, in which case, you are probably a terrible person! XD

KhajitFurTrader

No

No duel system is ever needed per se.

I can understand that there are people who've seen dueling in other games and would like to see a similar feature in ESO.

I can also understand that there are people who do not want to have a dueling system in ESO for exactly the same reason.

Dueling can be a disrupting experience for those who don't want to participate in it. Thus, it needs to be carefully implemented. People must have the means to completely opt out of it, never to be bothered by it. This should include never seeing invites to a duel, never seeing global/local messages in chat, but also ideally never even seeing other people dueling at all, unless wanted.

The more sophisticated implementations of dueling I've seen only allowed it in very specific areas, which could be completely avoided if known.

rotiferuk

No

IMHO the people who want duelling (just like those who want open world PvP) are in the minority. Yes, the poll shows more people want duels than not. This does not mean anything because only a small percentage of players are represented on this forum. Of those, a large number do not actually play the game. They spend their time asking for silly things to be implemented.

Mondo

Yes

Without that system i cant show you all how ultra my templer/dk with shield is

NadiusMaximus

Yes

If anything a practice field in Cyrodil to let you try builds against your teammates. If you want duels to be cross faction, well , they already have that. It's called pvp.

NadiusMaximus

Yes

I voted yes, but on the other hand I can see it now....
Fire ring, fire ring, fire ring, fire ring, devouring swarm, fire ring,.. " Oh man you suck, I totally just killed you, I'm so cool, l2p."