Does Elder Scrolls Online need a duel system ?

soulclaw

Yes

I'm not a big duellist, but it can be fun from time to time. The only real objection I have seen raised is the basic "dog in a manger" attitude, they don't want to duel and they don't want anyone else to do so either. There is also the absolutely droolingly idiotic idea that adding duelling would turn this game entirely into a different game.

As long as a player can check the box to auto-decline a challenge there is no rational reason not to add it.

Paralyse

Yes

I voted yes because I believe it would help other players see that you don't need to have cookie-cutter builds to win fights.

Aenra

No

NO

you want dueling (mine is bigger than yours) there is an excellent MMO out there that includes it, you can even duel atop mail boxes!!! For the maturer-oriented

Aenra

No

Aevric wrote: »

No
In every MMO that has dueling, you're subjected to morons spamming duels at you non-stop until you can locate the Block Duels option (if there even is one).
No thanks.

also this ^^

FunkheaD

Yes

Some of the most fun I had in Ultima Online was being able to have duels and training nights with my guild buddies. I'd love to be able to do this with some friends here.

I don't mind if it's limited to cyrodil only or even an arena, but it has to happen.

If it isn't added prior to the justice system, players will simply commit a crime, and have their friends attack them in a relatively secluded location.

Duels will happen, don't let us come up with clumsy workarounds like this to simply start a fight!

Artis

Yes

Why not? It's one more option. Someone will have fun. Who doesn't like dueling just won't duel. Everyone will be happy.

BrassRazoo

Yes

I would definitely like to see this trialled.
Instead of weapon swap, perhaps on the fly class swap.

TehMagnus

Yes

YES! And the only reason why YES?

Because some people would have fun with it. It would give me something to do while I wait for group to be filled in trials or while I'm roaming around town without an aim.

All those who voted no: Partypoopers . Why do you want to avoid other people having fun when it doesn't affect you?

istateres

No

No, but I'd like an open PvP zone (no teams) designed with dualing in mind.

granty2008cyb16_ESO

Yes

magnusnet wrote: »

YES! And the only reason why YES?

Because some people would have fun with it. It would give me something to do while I wait for group to be filled in trials or while I'm roaming around town without an aim.

All those who voted no: Partypoopers . Why do you want to avoid other people having fun when it doesn't affect you?

Partypoopers Partypoopers Partypoopers Partypoopers :-)

granty2008cyb16_ESO

Yes

epoling wrote: »

No game NEEDS dueling. It is nice for people that want it if they can do it responsibly and I am glad they have fun with it. However, going with the title of the poll, again, it is not needed. There are a lot of other things that probably should be added before using dev time for this.

can you describe the things that should be added before this and why they take higher priority in your opinion?

Soloeus

Yes

1. I do want a Duel System, shocking an MMO would bother coming out of Beta without one.

2. I don't want to be spammed with Duel Requests. I also don't want to duel someone and have 10 member of his group ambush me.

I am on the fence but lean toward yes. Before you suggest me to disable Duel notifications, I can't even disable Leaderboard notifications. I don't give a hoot what someone's Completion Time is.

dennissomb16_ESO

No

voted no since options were limited in poll. No because I don't want any developer resources spent on it right now (maybe far down the road) and no unless they added a couple of the following conditions. Must be an in game setting that turns off dueling for account (to stop the never ending challenges that always gets abused), and no to being able to duel inside city/town areas

Tavore1138

No

magnusnet wrote: »

YES! And the only reason why YES?

Because some people would have fun with it. It would give me something to do while I wait for group to be filled in trials or while I'm roaming around town without an aim.

All those who voted no: Partypoopers . Why do you want to avoid other people having fun when it doesn't affect you?

Because it does impact on dev time which is finite.

bertenburnyb16_ESO

No

"Dear Zeni, please nerf rock, paper is fine,
sincerely , scissors"

^ this x infinite
no tnx, devs could spend there time more productively

MercyKilling

No

No, the game most certainly does not NEED one.

granty2008cyb16_ESO

Yes

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

"Dear Zeni, please nerf rock, paper is fine,
sincerely , scissors"

^ this x infinite
no tnx, devs could spend there time more productively

on what ?

Observant

Yes

A lot of people are saying no because they are afraid of the potential request spamming?

You know that would be fixed with a radio button in the settings menu right?

Tavore1138

No

granty2008cyb16_ESO wrote: »

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

"Dear Zeni, please nerf rock, paper is fine,
sincerely , scissors"

^ this x infinite
no tnx, devs could spend there time more productively

on what ?

More quests
More dungeons
More group stuff
More PvP
Justice system (for them as wants it)
More crafting options
And so on....

kitsinni

No

The class setup in this game doesn't make sense for dueling.

Here would be the duels.

DK's would hold block and spam talons, lava whip, reflective scales and green dragon blood and no one could kill them until they ran out of magicka. e

Templars would spam blazing shield, Puncturing strikes, blazing spear and heals and no one could kill them till they ran out of magicka.

Sorcs would spam bolt escape and no one could get a kill on them.

Nightblades would die to everyone because you can't get the jump on someone in a duel.

TehMagnus

Yes

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

magnusnet wrote: »

YES! And the only reason why YES?

Because some people would have fun with it. It would give me something to do while I wait for group to be filled in trials or while I'm roaming around town without an aim.

All those who voted no: Partypoopers . Why do you want to avoid other people having fun when it doesn't affect you?

Because it does impact on dev time which is finite.

I rather have dueling than Dyes.

granty2008cyb16_ESO

Yes

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

granty2008cyb16_ESO wrote: »

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

"Dear Zeni, please nerf rock, paper is fine,
sincerely , scissors"

^ this x infinite
no tnx, devs could spend there time more productively

on what ?

More quests
More dungeons
More group stuff
More PvP
Justice system (for them as wants it)
More crafting options
And so on....

so you would rather the devs spend time on what you want than what everyone else wants cause last time i looked at the poll more people want duel system than not

my point is there is already monstrous amounts of quest, dungeons, group stuff, pvp and so on but there is still no 1v1 dueling system to fight your friends of the same alliance!!!

Horrum

Yes

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

No, because this is not every other MMO!

Why do people insist on trying to make this a clone?

It is like ordering steak and whining because it is not lamb, just go and order lamb and let the rest of us enjoy our steak!!

No. It is like ordering steak and having the option to add mushroom sauce. People who don't like mushroom sauce can have their steak without it. That way both groups of people are happy and neither has an advantage over the other while enjoying their meal.

I don't PVP much, but I would like this feature as it provides a great means to practice and run tests and also adds entertainment among friends. There are no other benefits so being opposed to this seems... odd. I would expect to be able to duel a companion in the ES universe.

I can not fathom why people are so opposed to this. Should it be built in a way that prevents harassment? Absolutely. Add a toggle switch or something in the menu

Tavore1138

No

granty2008cyb16_ESO wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

granty2008cyb16_ESO wrote: »

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

"Dear Zeni, please nerf rock, paper is fine,
sincerely , scissors"

^ this x infinite
no tnx, devs could spend there time more productively

on what ?

More quests
More dungeons
More group stuff
More PvP
Justice system (for them as wants it)
More crafting options
And so on....

so you would rather the devs spend time on what you want than what everyone else wants cause last time i looked at the poll more people want duel system than not

my point is there is already monstrous amounts of quest, dungeons, group stuff, pvp and so on but there is still no 1v1 dueling system to fight your friends of the same alliance!!!

77 people at the time of replying is not 'everyone else'.

Plenty of posts around demanding all sorts of other content too, many with polls too.

If duelling were to be implemented one day I would not be terribly upset as long as promised aspects are given priority, nor would I be interested while current class system would just make it predictable as others have highlighted already.

This game appears to be trying hard not to be a clone game and part of that is that it has chosen not to copy things like auction houses and duels, obviously some of these features are ones that some players miss. Other players do not miss them. If comments from ZOS are to be believed they are not opposed to some sort of future duelling system but it is not going to happen until they have finished creating their planned features.

Tavore1138

No

Horrum wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

No, because this is not every other MMO!

Why do people insist on trying to make this a clone?

It is like ordering steak and whining because it is not lamb, just go and order lamb and let the rest of us enjoy our steak!!

No. It is like ordering steak and having the option to add mushroom sauce. People who don't like mushroom sauce can have their steak without it. That way both groups of people are happy and neither has an advantage over the other while enjoying their meal.

I don't PVP much, but I would like this feature as it provides a great means to practice and run tests and also adds entertainment among friends. There are no other benefits so being opposed to this seems... odd. I would expect to be able to duel a companion in the ES universe.

I can not fathom why people are so opposed to this. Should it be built in a way that prevents harassment? Absolutely. Add a toggle switch or something in themenu

I don't think it would be much good for practice for PvP.

It would be a controlled environment, players would probably not be able to use a surprise opener (which rules NBs out). It is one on one which is rare to experience in siege warfare. Ultimately a skilled DK or Sorc is going to beat most other builds even with skilled players due to well known existing mechanics.

Basically you could rock in a duel and still get owned in PvP.

If ZOS finish balancing classes and abilities, if they bulk out skill lines and even add additional classes then duelling could become a much more interesting idea in a year or two.

Subject to being voluntary.

Horrum

Yes

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Horrum wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

No, because this is not every other MMO!

Why do people insist on trying to make this a clone?

It is like ordering steak and whining because it is not lamb, just go and order lamb and let the rest of us enjoy our steak!!

No. It is like ordering steak and having the option to add mushroom sauce. People who don't like mushroom sauce can have their steak without it. That way both groups of people are happy and neither has an advantage over the other while enjoying their meal.

I don't PVP much, but I would like this feature as it provides a great means to practice and run tests and also adds entertainment among friends. There are no other benefits so being opposed to this seems... odd. I would expect to be able to duel a companion in the ES universe.

I can not fathom why people are so opposed to this. Should it be built in a way that prevents harassment? Absolutely. Add a toggle switch or something in themenu

I don't think it would be much good for practice for PvP.

It would be a controlled environment, players would probably not be able to use a surprise opener (which rules NBs out). It is one on one which is rare to experience in siege warfare. Ultimately a skilled DK or Sorc is going to beat most other builds even with skilled players due to well known existing mechanics.

Basically you could rock in a duel and still get owned in PvP.

If ZOS finish balancing classes and abilities, if they bulk out skill lines and even add additional classes then duelling could become a much more interesting idea in a year or two.

Subject to being voluntary.

Yeah I agree but fighting a human is still much better practice than fighting NPCs lol. As for balancing being a priority - absolutely. I do however believe they will hold off on more significant balancing changes due to the champion system etc. Just a feeling, but my guess is balancing will happen more post-champion update.

guybrushtb16_ESO

Yes

Although I wouldn't say it's strictly *needed*, dueling obviously is a crowd pleaser, and as long as it's optional, there is no harm in having it. If they can manage to repurpose some code from the justice system so it's less work to implement there really isn't any reaon not to do it.

eventide03b14a_ESO

Yes

I don't see the harm. It would be nice to practice different builds before entering Cyrodiil. To the people that said no, nobody is forcing you to participate. There is majority support for this. Just because there is something similar to another MMO doesn't make it a clone. A good idea is a good idea period.

heavy_artillery

No

It's not a needed feature, though I can see how it might be beneficial to those wanting to test PvP mechanics or whatever. I don't generally PvP, and in other MMOs the dueling feature was more of an annoyance. Random idiots would sometimes follow you around for an hour requesting a duel. It's tiresome and often juvenile.

Blooddancer

No

You use the word "need", ESO needs alot of things this is not one of them.
Now if you had asked "Would you like there to be..." and included "I don't care" as an option then I'll take that. I might even say yes so all those that wont it could have it cos I am a generous soul at my core.