Zenimax- Just add a dislike button.

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Dislike this idea.


Dislike this thread


Dislike this thread being rehashed for the nth time


For those who speak Spanish


If you are keeping score


In closing

Vizier

AlexDougherty wrote: »

GnatB wrote: »

Elf_Boy wrote: »

If, as is being suggested, the dislike button would be for 'unpopular' or 'disliked' opinions, then that very suggestion is proof enough the feature should not be used.

Who are you (or me) to decide what it popular? Why would being popular make something right or wrong?

It was once popular to throw the Christians to the lions. We wont discuss some of the things that were popular in parts of the world 1938-1944 (ish).


I am, and will be consistently, against a dislike vote because it is a 'highschool' kind of behavior.

Grown, mature people can agree to not agree and can accept anthers views as valid, for them, without turning it into some sort of right/wrong, the cool-kids-believe kind of fertilizer.

Too many times in science, culture, and just about every facet of our live the real, true, answer (or in science the better answer) has started off as the unpopular and ridiculed belief of a genius or forward thinker.

EG: Woman's suffrage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage

Minority rights

The church (the popular/powerful majority) decided that Galileo was wrong starting aprox 1610 and got around to apologizing in 1992.

Plate tectonics, first quantum theory and later string theory and just about every other science that allows us to even play the game and post in these forums has been unpopular and thought to be anything from wicked to insanity to stupidity.

The list could go on for a very, very, very big Wall-O-Text.

If the OP or anyone else disagrees, I look for ward to your well thought out and topical responses.

Unless of course, for the OP it was just about being able to have the power trip of making the whole world see he didn't like it.

Disagree. You and me are exactly who gets to decide what's popular. That's pretty much the definition of popular. No intelligent person ever connected "popular" with right or wrong. Which is why there is nothing wrong with disagree. Disagree isn't a negative.

The church may have disagreed with Galileo, but Galileo disagreed with the church first.

A Disagree button IS a Negative, you are indicating you disagree with them, but not providing any way for them to refute you, this is not a positive.

And your Galileo reference is flawed, Galileo noticed the evidence disagreed with the Church, the Church was basically arguing with the universe, and thus with God (since he made it). Galileo decided that ignoring the Truth is stupid, Eventually the Church agreed.

But you are right about popularity.

Well actually Galileo had a hypothesis that made sense to him but not the evidence to sway the scientific community. Such things as the curvature of the earth that we take for granted now were not known then. In any case he was given the OK to teach his hypotheses but was not to teach a heliocentric viewpoint as "truth." The scientific community uses the same standard today. Prove it and you can teach it as truth. Otherwise...spend more time proving it then talking about it. Not much different today. (not saying that's necessarily a good thing..just sayin.) The Pope that put him on house arrest was a colleague within the same scientific fraternity and gave him permission to present his viewpoint. (Who by the way wasn't the first to teach of heliocentrism at the Pontifical institute.) Problem was Galileo was a real ass and in the book made the Pope out to be a fool. The popes viewpoint was well known in that he stated "the movements of the heavens were a mystery." Such words he put in the mouth of the fool in his book. This is when he was shown the instruments of torture and placed on house or rather "estate" arrest. He had a Bishop that was a patron and friend and was confined to the estate. He wasn't exactly abused...shrug.

SFBryan18

'Me gusta' in Spanish means 'I like', so that one pic is the opposite of all the others. I don't speak Spanish, but I took it in high school.

AlexDougherty

Tabbycat wrote: »

Wow this thread has really gotten off topic.

Yes, it will probably get shut down soon.

The problem is we've gone over the subject a dozen times or more, those who want the dislike button won't listen to why it won't happen, and those who know why it got removed know it's too open for abuse.

Stalemate.

dracobains_ESO

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

You are blaming the problem on the victim and excusing the offender...

...I know that in several heated debates I have had people lol my posts and add insightful or agree on my opponent's posts in large amounts. I've had it happen on other forums, as well. Like I said, I can handle this, but it certainly does make you feel very isolated and ganged up on, and if someone who is already experiencing bully has to deal with it, it just adds to the sense of persecution they might be feeling in life. I just don't think that's a good idea.

I am putting blame nowhere. I am saying it is easily avoidable and if it is a problem for anyone they should AVOID it. You on the other hand are expecting young adults, among others, to behave in a manner that is wholly unrealistic. You cannot unravel thousands of years of evolution and human nature simply because you find it objectionable. (I do as well) If utopia were possible we would have reached it long ago.

The moderators do a good job on these forums. If that isn't enough then use in-game mechanics and stay away from this venue. It really is that simple.

Tabbycat

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Tabbycat wrote: »

Wow this thread has really gotten off topic.

Yes, it will probably get shut down soon.

The problem is we've gone over the subject a dozen times or more, those who want the dislike button won't listen to why it won't happen, and those who know why it got removed know it's too open for abuse.

Stalemate.

Perhaps everyone should agree to disagree and leave it at that.

AlexDougherty

Tabbycat wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Tabbycat wrote: »

Wow this thread has really gotten off topic.

Yes, it will probably get shut down soon.

The problem is we've gone over the subject a dozen times or more, those who want the dislike button won't listen to why it won't happen, and those who know why it got removed know it's too open for abuse.

Stalemate.

Perhaps everyone should agree to disagree and leave it at that.

I'll agree to that.

Srugzal

dracobains_ESO wrote: »

The moderators do a good job on these forums. If that isn't enough then use in-game mechanics and stay away from this venue. It really is that simple.

That is true, they do a lot. However it isn't that simple. The goal of that very moderation we all enjoy is to make it possible for everyone to enjoy a safe environment here, so people don't have to leave to protect themselves in the first place.

Fact is, we aren't there yet. Inviting people to "deal with it or leave" is one of the problems, and solves nothing.

Srugzal

Vizier wrote: »

Well actually Galileo had a hypothesis that made sense to him but not the evidence to sway the scientific community.

Actually the problem that Galileo came up against was that he argued that Scripture was not intended to be literally true, and that his heliocentric theories (of which the phases of Venus, which he discovered, is a clear demonstration) were not in opposition to a clearly geocentric scripture that wasn't intended to be inerrant in these matters in the first place.

This of course was not to be challenged, since the whole authority of the church in that day was based on that presupposition. It's still a problem today. This Wikipedia article goes into a lot of detail, if you want to actually understand the history.

In any case, this sub-thread is about as drastically off-topic as anything I've ever seen. Now back to our regularly scheduled rants... ;-)

KitLightning

Nobody will ever get there, this topic has been treading waters since it started, or be it to behold "two armies" slapping each other with old fish and dried out branches, without ever making progress.

The administration cannot accept members having to deal with being indirectly harassed via a forum function (or feel such due to an excessive hit on a single button). They can neither accept that those members will no longer be part of such an environment or at the least avoid voicing their opinion. Though as this topic has shown, the members just finds another approach to get their mediocre stand across, without ever formulating a sentence. How amusing!
The only buttons on a post that are needed is the flag and quote.

nicholaspingasb16_ESO

Tabbycat wrote: »

Wow this thread has really gotten off topic.

but it's gotten me so many LOLs and Agrees that it would be a shame for it to end. besides, 4k views!

No but seriously, I hate how a thread about a forum function gets more views than my many threads about how to improve stuff in the game.

ZOS_AlanG

Since there's some concensus that this has gone off topic (at least no one disagrees), it looks like it's time to lock this thread. Thanks to everyone for their feedback on reaction flags, this is an area we're looking to adjust.