Does anyone miss their previous MMO?

infraction2008b16_ESO

I miss class balance...

I miss having tons of viable specs from all classes suitable for raiding, as well as melee actually viable...

I miss the game rewarding you for the effort you put in...

I miss access to a basic mount not being an insane grind unless you pay extra...

I miss replayability of the content where endgame is just the beginning....

I miss bosses that actually require following tight mechanics to beat...

I miss having that one instance where you can chill out socialize with people...

I miss there being tons of things to do outside raiding or dungeon content...

I miss regular reoccurring events...

I miss I can make my character look how I want...

I miss dungeon queues actually popping...

I miss regular loyalty rewards given to subscribers rather than giving them the shaft...

There's probably a lot more I don't have time to add I probably miss too, in fact I'm having a hard time finding something that would keep me gripped to this game.

Edit: You know what you're all right, why should I keep playing if I'm missing those things? Why should I even attempt to get my point of view across that this game is generally lacking the things that made previous MMO's I played enjoyable to play when everyone else would rather eat out of the same old trough and not strive for any change? I should I myself push to make this game something it quite frankly is not?

Therefore I am going to follow everyone's advice and vote with my wallet, I had hoped for this thread to be a feedback thread rather than un subbing one but there's nothing keeping me here...

I am now going to go and enjoy a real MMO.

SFBryan18

Why don't you play that game then?

Fleymark

Yep.

But after a decade and a half in one and a decade in another you gotta eventually play something new.

yiasemi

First one I ever played, as many others. Pleasantly surprised, but it was the Elder Scrolls connection that dragged me here.

Audigy

Not so much the game, but the community. There is so much hate and intolerance among ESO players, its just sad. PVE players hate on PVP, solo gamers on group and everyone hates Roleplayers ...

Its so massive already that ,every new feature that doesn't fit the taste of specific people causes tons of "this is bad because..." threads.

Being a Designer for ESO must be a really tough job, its impossible to get your own ideas across with all the hate and doom saying.


Back in the days new features were judged when they came on the server and not months in advance.

If those new additions were not so good then this wasn't an issue either. People had a much thicker skin and didn't cry all the time about griefing, not enough content or silly vanity pets.

Playing back then was a together, today its everyone for himself

infraction2008b16_ESO

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Why don't you play that game then?

Because my subs not up yet, that's probably the only real reason. I don't like wasting money.

This game lacks the hook after you've played it through which other MMO's seem to do so well.

CheesyDaedra

I miss TF2...

Aortick

Your title implies this game was your Previous MMO. What game was this? It sounds like a Mystical game.

Vandermeer

The only hook other games have is grinding for new gear through dailies and spending a whole night wiping on the raid boss you waited 3 months to see.

I'd rather play through a long story, and a good one at that. Explore every province that has appeared in a Elder Scrolls game, and maybe some new places.

Miflett

I miss Warhammer Online every damn day. A great community and some great memories of battles.

Shaun98ca2

Well depending on WHY you play a particular game then yes this MMO probably isn't for everyone.

I play TESO for the story. I HATE reading so TESO spoon feeding me the story is great for me.

I also love the level of realism the game currently offers which is just absent in other MMOs.

I do find certain things lacking in the game but its all stuff they are working on. I don't believe their solution to dungeons is correct but I have time to see as im still not even defeated Molag Bal, so I got ove 2/3s of the game left to play.

This game only has 1 true competitor that offers everything this game doesn't but also lacks everything this game has so go figure.

Nox_Aeterna

Every game offers something diferent , i trully miss my guild from GW2 , best guild i ever had.

But we move on.

Ser Lobo

I miss Star Wars Galaxies. Loved the old guild mates. Loved my houses. Still hate SOE, not for closing down SWG, but for what they did way before then.

I miss Matrix Online. The unique systems and fun roleplay. Wish that game would have had AAA status and gotten some real love. Was a lot of fun.

I miss Tabula Rasa. Such a quirky and fun game! Everything was going fine, and then bam! General British gets canned, game servers shut down. Such a waste on so many interesting and new mechanics.

Games like World of Warcraft, EverQuest, even Ultima Online to an extent (though I played it a lot), could never keep me entertained. There was so much ... just, commercialism.

I never support the popular team. Always rooting for the underdogs willing to try something new and be unique. Always find myself in contention against the 'majority' view, especially since I have little respect for majority opinions. Individuals can be smart, unique, fun. But a mob is dumb, predictable, and self destructive.

TaffyIX

Ok, I'll bite.

I miss LOTRO in it's heyday(specifically MoM and very much definately pre F2P).

I'll be the first to admit I am most likely looking back with rose-tinted glasses, and should I have played it in this day and age, I don't doubt I would view it as an abomination!

ESO gives me my MMO fix now, and I'm happy I'm here.

Edit: Spelling

Knootewoot

For most people the 1st mmo they played is their best experience. Mainly because it is all new, huge world, other players etc. For me that is Starwars Galaxies. In the almost 10 years i played that i had a great time. In fact i still play on the emu server.

TESO for me is a great game. I don't like how the veteran content is here no matter what meridia or cadwell talk about. Even if i washed a shore of a distance land, i still wouldn't kill my own faction. But the PvP is awesome, and the stuff shown at quakecon is great. The game is still young and i keep subbing because i have good hopes for it.

infraction2008b16_ESO wrote: »

I miss class balance...

Classes shouldn't be balanced... teams should in my opinion. But im alone on this point probably.

I miss having tons of viable specs from all classes suitable for raiding, as well as melee actually viable...

I agree, nobody wants me for trials as NB, medium, dual wield. But i am viable in PvP and PvE even in veteran content pre-patch

I miss the game rewarding you for the effort you put in...

I don't need rewards to be honest and i am probably alone in this also lol. for me the PvP is rewarding enough when we smash the enemy. PvE-wise it should be good to have some reward. however... where does it end. When you have the best of the best weapon.... did you finish the game then?

I miss access to a basic mount not being an insane grind unless you pay extra...

17.500 for the first horse is peanuts. Also with all the shrines i never used a horse in the beginning. And i think it is a good idea horses are a bit expensive because you have something to work to. You want reward.. work for it.

I miss replayability of the content where endgame is just the beginning....

So true. Doing these dungeons one or two times is more then enough. But for me PvP is the endgame. Never liked raiding much as i have little time. But PvP i can jump in and out whenever i want.

I miss bosses that actually require following tight mechanics to beat...

And people cried even during beta when they couldn't figure out how to beat Doshia.. and she got nerfed.

I miss having that one instance where you can chill out socialize with people...

You can in the inn's. But that's up to other players aswell. If nobody comes there... there is no socializing. In SWTOR i went to the fleet... in SWG i went to Theed or Coronet. But in TESO i go to Cyyrodil.

I miss there being tons of things to do outside raiding or dungeon content...

They are working on it (theft/murder/justice system) I look forward to the stuff they showed. And the game is still growing and im sure they will add more stuff.

I miss regular reoccurring events...

I hope this will come in future updates.

I miss I can make my character look how I want...

You can't? What do you mean. TESO has good character customization. Better then most mmo's. Or do you mean after you created a char and re-create ingame?

I miss dungeon queues actually popping...

I miss regular loyalty rewards given to subscribers rather than giving them the shaft...

Loyalty rewards (some mmo's call it veteran system) sometimes come later in the game. SWG, Vanguard introduced them later on. Vanguard later stopped them after 18 months or so. If they find a way to get rewards without loosing to much bag/bank space then yeah (like pets in a pet screen and costumes in a costume collection bag or something. And who gets shafted? Mad about the dog ?

There's probably a lot more I don't have time to add I probably miss too, in fact I'm having a hard time finding something that would keep me gripped to this game.

Unsub, play the mmo you liked and come back later. I am sure after a few updates you think different about this mmo. If not, then this is not the game for you. I stopped playing SWTOR after 3-4 months. I came back much later and the game has improved with lots of more content. As this game is still growing i am pretty sure it will improve. If i am wrong... well, there is always the unsub option.

Arsenic_Touch

Nope. Came from Defiance, that clustermeh of a game and the developers that don't even know their own game it just drove me away. I check back occasionally to see how much the lead developer has screwed things up and I don't find myself without something to laugh at. They improved from the previous team but the current team is still pretty derp about things.

GFBStarWars

I miss class balance...
ok fare but give dev some time

I miss having tons of viable specs from all classes suitable for raiding, as well as melee actually viable...
there are tons of spec for almost everithing, just experiment with new build and have fun!

I miss the game rewarding you for the effort you put in...
Really fare point, the vr zone had the worst reward ever, getting a vr10 blue necklace for completing all quest it's a joke

I miss access to a basic mount not being an insane grind unless you pay extra...
Unless the way u use to get a moutn is by taking the gold from the enemies then yeah it's hard, try crafting for others and selling useless loot to vendors, you'll be able to buy one before even level 15

I miss replayability of the content where endgame is just the beginning....
True to a certain level, claglorn has lots of replayability though everyone is grinding there, but vr dungeon and normal dungeon are a one time run, unless you are into achievement or are helping a friend guildmate

I miss bosses that actually require following tight mechanics to beat...
Will leave alone as i haven't tryed trials yet.

I miss having that one instance where you can chill out socialize with people...
That's called Reaper March, at least for eu dominion and if i may: do have a guild?

I miss there being tons of things to do outside raiding or dungeon content...
This game is 3 month old, as you have seen in quakecon there is lots of content on the way, and there is cyrodiil, lots of time to waste there

I miss regular reoccurring events...
Still maybe will come in future

I miss I can make my character look how I want...
Sorry but this is a joke right?

I miss dungeon queues actually popping...
sorry don't know what this mean
I miss regular loyalty rewards given to subscribers rather than giving them the shaft...
Game is 3 month old

Laura

Sometimes I miss EQ but then I go back to try it and change my mind. Rose colored glasses - nostalgia is a ***.

dharbert

My previous MMO was the ultimate do-whatever-you-want sandbox, Star Wars Galaxies. Unfortunately, after 8 years they pulled the plug on it and replaced it with that god-awful saturday morning cartoon clone wars version.

Ser Lobo

Many veteran MMO players realize that the games we loved and adored, we wouldn't spend two minutes playing today. On the most basic level, the combat responsiveness in ESO compared to SWG is leagues different. Not to mention the combat mechanics themselves, AI scrips, quest dialogue, graphics, animations, etc, etc.

So not only are our beloved memories relevant only to that era of gaming, they are also 'rose tinted'. They are affected by that great guild we had (which we spent far too much time and energy trying to organize events, stressing ourselves out), or those awesome late night gaming escapades (which our spouse and kids wouldn't allow anymore), or the crazy drunken VOIP sessions (whereas now we've got work in the morning).

I don't really miss the game, per se. But I do cherish the memories.

Knootewoot

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Many veteran MMO players realize that the games we loved and adored, we wouldn't spend two minutes playing today. On the most basic level, the combat responsiveness in ESO compared to SWG is leagues different. Not to mention the combat mechanics themselves, AI scrips, quest dialogue, graphics, animations, etc, etc.

So not only are our beloved memories relevant only to that era of gaming, they are also 'rose tinted'. They are affected by that great guild we had (which we spent far too much time and energy trying to organize events, stressing ourselves out), or those awesome late night gaming escapades (which our spouse and kids wouldn't allow anymore), or the crazy drunken VOIP sessions (whereas now we've got work in the morning).

I don't really miss the game, per se. But I do cherish the memories.

Well... i still play SWG today on the emu. And it is still as good as 11 years ago pre-cu. Yes, the emu still needs work like creature AI. But the freedom in this sandbox game without quests is awesome. Sometimes i wish my computer would eat me and i was really there.

Carafina34

Aortick wrote: »

Your title implies this game was your Previous MMO. What game was this? It sounds like a Mystical game.

Rift Im guessing (the regular loyalty rewards). Rift is a good game ;p;p

Cogo

Audigy wrote: »

Not so much the game, but the community. There is so much hate and intolerance among ESO players, its just sad. PVE players hate on PVP, solo gamers on group and everyone hates Roleplayers ...

EQ for me but yeah, you hit the nail!

The community will NEVER be like it once was.

Preachan

Missed the game, the free character system (without classes), the pvp and the community there. Just weird to start all over again, and in such a community like the one ESO has.
So I went back, that's the MMO where I belong, ESO can wait.

Cogo

Laura wrote: »

Sometimes I miss EQ but then I go back to try it and change my mind. Rose colored glasses - nostalgia is a ***.

Oh!!!!! What wouldnt I give for a REAL raid again!!!!

50 players! No addons! No voice com!

Just plain.....raiders!

And loosing exp for dying!! Man! I RAN for my LIFE when something tried to to kill me!

Pele

I sometimes miss my previous MMO, but then I load it up, run about for a few minutes, and remember why I no longer play it.

Loco_Mofo

infraction2008b16_ESO wrote: »

I miss class balance...

I miss having tons of viable specs from all classes suitable for raiding, as well as melee actually viable...

I miss the game rewarding you for the effort you put in...

I miss access to a basic mount not being an insane grind unless you pay extra...

I miss replayability of the content where endgame is just the beginning....

I miss bosses that actually require following tight mechanics to beat...

I miss having that one instance where you can chill out socialize with people...

I miss there being tons of things to do outside raiding or dungeon content...

I miss regular reoccurring events...

I miss I can make my character look how I want...

I miss dungeon queues actually popping...

I miss regular loyalty rewards given to subscribers rather than giving them the shaft...

Yes I miss all these standard features.

Wolfshead

I miss nothing for my old mmo for the company if more focus on earn extra money from the cash shop which just have add 3 button in game for and i love game with gfx like ESO and AoC have this cartoon gfx that WS and WoW have is not my cup of tea it is sssssooo out of date.

KariTR

I certainly miss my SWTOR guild, who were the best bunch of gamers I had the pleasure to play with. As for previous MMOs, my first - L2 - is missed (natch) and so is Vanguard for the 12 months of beta I enjoyed, not what it became at launch.

But as a roleplayer, in spirit at least, it is past characters I miss the most. Leaving them behind is often the hardest thing to do.

I'm not fond of many of the examples given in the OP. Instanced this and automated that are not my idea of fun, they disconnect me from a MMO-world.

ThisOnePosts

Ehhh SWG was okay. I think people overrate it because of how it was "for its time". You can still play it today ya know...... not the conventional way but still you can. Also they started to hand out Jedi to everyone practically before the game went down in flames. I doubt that was the cause, but I'm sure it didn't help either. SWG was a nice game yes, but I would never say it's on the level of ESO.. and especially not even close to where ESO plans to be over the next 2 years.

Yes yes yes player housing, etc... jobs... etc... but this is an TES game, they could easily add it in and do it much better....besides Second Life is the best game to ever exist with player housing and jobs XD.... however boring on the actual game part.

So really the only MMO I still play... is The Secret World. I paid for a lifetime subscription before it went buy 2 play (no sub, but must purchase the game), however they offered nice perks for a sub. I'll tell you, I wish they hadn't gone that route. It's now over 2 years later and they are not even passed the 1 year mark on plans with content thanks to so many playing the game without paying a sub and them having to lay off many employees. NOT COOL, still a great game made from great talent... but a real MMO should have a subscription.. and it wouldn't hurt to at least have a lifetime option instead of just annual, etc..

Guppet

infraction2008b16_ESO wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Why don't you play that game then?

Because my subs not up yet, that's probably the only real reason. I don't like wasting money.

This game lacks the hook after you've played it through which other MMO's seem to do so well.

That's a curious answer. Your saying that $15 is more important to you than enjoying your time in a game. Its $15, that's a couple of pints. If your previous game is WoW then you'll have heard this lots of times "Time is money, friend"

When im not enjoying a game I leave it, does not matter how much money it cost, or if I have game time left. I used to spend about £40 a month on Planetside 2 (That free to play game lol), but, as I enjoyed the beta of ESO im here and dropped PS2.

Life's too short to not enjoy the things you are doing, unless its a job your stuck in.

On the actual subject.

I don't miss any particular game, but do miss aspects of them all.

The thing I miss most is being new to MMO's, when it was all filled with wonder and mechanics were something I had not heard of. Being a noob was great fun, but its not something you can ever get fully back as experience in other MMO's will always carry over to some extent.