Just fix inventory management already

babylon

Stalwart385 wrote: »

It's the space on the character that people seem to cry about because they have to keep banking.

No it isn't. It's the storage space, the low stack size, the limited bank space, the shared bank space, the time it takes to transfer items from char to mules, figuring out what goes where, not being able to keep social items, and all the rest of the bad related to banking, that people are complaining about.

HurlinMerlin

Out of 8 characters slots... I dedicated 6 to cover all crafting, leaving me 2 playing slots... My provisioner was 50 at level 10 and is still level 10. I do not have a problem with storage, as all my characters need everything I collect.

My main character is a whopping level 17, due to re-rolling 3 times before settling on a main character to focus on. I don't care if it takes me a year to hit 50 on my main...there's no rush.

I was in all the betas, and I have played so many MMO's, it's not even funny starting with Asheron's Call in 1999. AC is still active today and still has people paying a monthly fee for a game that is hugely outdated, graphics wise.

Why do people still pay 13.00 a month to play a MMO that is 15 years old? Because its different that's why...AC was one of the first MMO's and there was no mold to break. At 15 years old, AC still has things in game that I would have loved to see incorporated into the main stream MMO's that followed.

Elder Scrolls Online is a refreshing break from the status qou of MMO's like WoW and the others, I for one am glad to see it.

babylon

HurlinMerlin wrote: »

Elder Scrolls Online is a refreshing break from the status qou of MMO's like WoW and the others, I for one am glad to see it.

So you believe that showing difference in the form of irritating your player base with cumbersome and time consuming banking, is a good thing. Gotcha.

Stalwart385

I don't understand what your storing that I'm not.

I have one mule for 1 copy of trophies and maps. I have one character holding on to items he needs to research. My main stays empty for collecting. My bank holds motifs, alchemy, upgrades, soul gems, items he needs to research, currently used mats and about 40 buffer space for transfers. My guild bank holds all white crafting mats, food and potions for wide range of levels, one copy of each recipe and a bunch of other junk I should probably throw out.

What else are you storing?

HurlinMerlin

No sir... I just don't believe I need to be spoon fed everything to make a game enjoyable... ESO will improve in some areas, not so much in other areas.

All I can is that if the banking system in ESO bothers you soooo much, then WoW is just over that aways

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Sapphy24

I HATE the bank shuffle, and damnit i'm allowed to HATE it. It's totally ridiculous.

babylon

HurlinMerlin wrote: »

No sir... I just don't believe I need to be spoon fed everything to make a game enjoyable... ESO will improve in some areas, not so much in other areas.

All I can is that if the banking system in ESO bothers you soooo much, then WoW is just over that aways

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It bothers everybody. [snip] And don't tell people to play another game or you might just get your wish.

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HurlinMerlin

Just like when I first started playing Eve Online.... holy crap talk about a crybaby fest,,,,, but play it long enough and you learn its actually a very good game.

ESO is still in the infant stages, there is much more ahead.

HurlinMerlin

It bothers everybody. [snip] And don't tell people to play another game or you might just get your wish.[/quote]


Awesome... how soon do I get ESO all to myself? Tomorrow?
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Stalwart385

Serious everyone quits over 50 bank space? That is what you call fickle. This is a minor issue and Zen should address more important things with their money.

babylon

Stalwart385 wrote: »

Zen should address more important things with their money.

Like the database, hey at same time they can make the bank work better and give players more space and allow smarter banking.

Sapphy24

HurlinMerlin wrote: »

Just like when I first started playing Eve Online.... holy crap talk about a crybaby fest,,,,, but play it long enough and you learn its actually a very good game.

ESO is still in the infant stages, there is much more ahead.

Crybaby fest, no sir.. its simply people voicing their opinions. Grow up and allow people to voice their opinions. My opinion is, the system is simply inadequate for the purpose for which it is intended. Hundreds of crafting materials and so few places to put them. Having to have mules, indeed sir, whose silly idea was that.

Will I ever get used to it. NO, I will not.


On a positive note.... I love the game, it has great potential but the banking system is totally flawed and will be until its dealt with properly.

twev

Stalwart385 wrote: »

I don't understand what your storing that I'm not.

I have one mule for 1 copy of trophies and maps. I have one character holding on to items he needs to research. My main stays empty for collecting. My bank holds motifs, alchemy, upgrades, soul gems, items he needs to research, currently used mats and about 40 buffer space for transfers. My guild bank holds all white crafting mats, food and potions for wide range of levels, one copy of each recipe and a bunch of other junk I should probably throw out.

What else are you storing?

Most of us 'store' nothing in guild banks.
There are dozens to hundreds of people in guilds.
I don't know most of them.
I have no name tags to put on my stuff.
It's all up for grabs.
Store something in the guild bank, and it's gone in 7 minutes.
Then *I* have no mats to craft with, no food to take on a quest, and no potions to save my 'toon's butt.

You got any other plans you want to share?

Redhawk05

Hmm...what do I feel like doing, I only have an hour to play today because of work, family, and exercise...should I play ESO for an hour, of which 30 minutes of it would be spent managing inventory, or Guild Wars 2, where it's not a chore.

gee...I'll play Guild Wars 2, so I can actually PLAY the GAME.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE ESO. And it's leaps and bounds better than GW2, but the inventory shuffling is preposterous. I don't have a lot of gold, so I can't buy more inventory, I like to craft, but it fills my 60 slots quickly in bank,and on self, and I refuse to spend real money on gold because I already spend $15/mo on the game.

Please, give us more space by default, or at least make it cost less gold to expand it. I am sure I'm not the only casual player, who can maybe play 4-6 hours a week, who is frustrated by this. Even Everquest gave us bags we could put in our inventory that held more stuff.

_Eivar_

In a "loot everything" game, bag slots are not coin sinks, they're a necessity. Add to all the crafting supplies the newest option from the last patch, loot everything that isn't nailed down, and you're practically begging for an audience to complain about the lack of bag space versus potential daily inventory.

It's very basic: if you're going to create long lists of crafting supplies, expect that crofters need a large capacity to handle them. If you're going to create a game in which nearly everything can be looted, expect that looters need a large capacity to handle this. And just because some people don't mind the whole hour-long mulefest every day or two doesn't mean that others enjoy it.

It's generally better to err on the side of the argument that says, "Maybe 15 different kinds of wheat, flour, berries, roots, stems, barks, sauces and assorted spices =is= overkill," but at this point, it's easier to simply increase/reorganize storage capacity than redo the silly shopping lists.

Lodestar

AdamBourke wrote: »

It's not the same. This is forcing you to make decisions. Kind of like when you're in a quest, and it comes up with two red options and you have to choose one.

It is exactly the same. It is micro management.

And hey if they are so proud of it, why is it not on the box as a main selling point?

badmojo wrote: »

I'm sorry, but I have to stick to my opinion that giving players 50 more slots per character would have a negative effect on the economy.

Oh? And does having your own 500 slot guild bank have a negative impact on the economy?

zhevon

I am sort of amused by people who seem to think ESO has a working economy and that extra slots would ruin it. Working economy - somebody's not playing the same game I am.

Lodestar

zhevon wrote: »

I am sort of amused by people who seem to think ESO has a working economy and that extra slots would ruin it. Working economy - somebody's not playing the same game I am.

Incredible. You say more value in a few words, than some of than several of the text walls combined.

Madval

I use addon for knowing wich traits I need to learn, what ingredients need what recipes and if I have one of these etc etc. No problem of inventoring managment for me. The bank space is more critical because I need space too for my alts

Stalwart385

twev wrote: »

Stalwart385 wrote: »

I don't understand what your storing that I'm not.

I have one mule for 1 copy of trophies and maps. I have one character holding on to items he needs to research. My main stays empty for collecting. My bank holds motifs, alchemy, upgrades, soul gems, items he needs to research, currently used mats and about 40 buffer space for transfers. My guild bank holds all white crafting mats, food and potions for wide range of levels, one copy of each recipe and a bunch of other junk I should probably throw out.

What else are you storing?

Most of us 'store' nothing in guild banks.
There are dozens to hundreds of people in guilds.
I don't know most of them.
I have no name tags to put on my stuff.
It's all up for grabs.
Store something in the guild bank, and it's gone in 7 minutes.
Then *I* have no mats to craft with, no food to take on a quest, and no potions to save my 'toon's butt.

You got any other plans you want to share?

Yeah one alt should easily hold what you need from a guild bank. The only reason our guild bank floats up to 400 hundred spaces is we're holding mats, potions, food, recipes and a bunch of junk for ALL levels. The majority of it is completely unnecessary. Also you have a bad guild if everyone has access to it and its always gone. If people put junk in equivalent to what they take out its a non-issue. One guild bank I use the other I have access to but don't use. Both operate this way. Of course don't put your blues in there just your 20 stacks of meat your so attached to.

Just another lazy excuse. Like "VR content is to hard."