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Give Templars Summon please
Enkil
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We're gimp. We're healers which are the traditional summoners. Give us the ability to summon players please. Please & Thanx 
Edited by Enkil on July 5, 2014 9:40AM 7
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Enkil✭✭✭✭✭
✭We need better magicka management to be sure.. but summon would be awesome! Didn't say we need it.. it's a function that doesn't currently exist in ESO but is common in MMO's and should.... and we are the class that should get it....Edited by Enkil on July 5, 2014 8:27AM3 -
emeraldbay✭✭✭✭✭Please dear Talos S'rendarr almighty, no. The sorcerer summons are annoying enough, I wouldn't be able to handle more of those things.
Templars don't need any kind of summoning, what they need is (as @p_tsakirisb16_ESO said) better magicka management.
(Edited for historical accuracy.)Edited by emeraldbay on July 5, 2014 8:40AM-T h e - A l d m e r i - I n i t i a t i v e-— O r d e r - o f - t h e - R a v y n —6 -
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✭Sorcerer summons PVE crap.. I'm talking about being able to summon other players.. This skill is common in MMOs2 -
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Summon other players in what context? Are you suggesting we just pull random players out of thin air and have them help us? Or maybe you can only summon group members (if so, isn't that what the "travel to player" function is for?)?Sorcerer summons PVE crap.. I'm talking about being able to summon other players.. This skill is common in MMOs-T h e - A l d m e r i - I n i t i a t i v e-— O r d e r - o f - t h e - R a v y n —5 -
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✭emeraldbay wrote: »Please dear Talos almighty, no. The sorcerer summons are annoying enough, I wouldn't be able to handle more of those things.
Templars don't need any kind of summoning, what they need is (as @p_tsakirisb16_ESO said) better magicka management.
BTW, Talos isn't born yet in this time frame.. so u might want to pray to another deity mister!!0 -
Dekkameron✭✭✭✭✭emeraldbay wrote: »Please dear Talos almighty, no. The sorcerer summons are annoying enough, I wouldn't be able to handle more of those things.
Templars don't need any kind of summoning, what they need is (as @p_tsakirisb16_ESO said) better magicka management.
BTW, Talos isn't born yet in this time frame.. so u might want to pray to another deity mister!!
If Talos isn't born yet, then how come Cyrodil isn't a jungle currently? It only got turned temperate like it is now by Talos using CHIM to change it.- Veteran Combat Librarian -0 -
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✭Dekkameron wrote: »emeraldbay wrote: »Please dear Talos almighty, no. The sorcerer summons are annoying enough, I wouldn't be able to handle more of those things.
Templars don't need any kind of summoning, what they need is (as @p_tsakirisb16_ESO said) better magicka management.
BTW, Talos isn't born yet in this time frame.. so u might want to pray to another deity mister!!
If Talos isn't born yet, then how come Cyrodil isn't a jungle currently? It only got turned temperate like it is now by Talos using CHIM to change it.
Umm.. poster already redirected his prayers to S'rendarr! (LOL) Not sure what the f*ck u are talking about really. Talos' domain isn't climate.Edited by Enkil on July 5, 2014 9:04AM0 -
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✭emeraldbay wrote: »
Summon other players in what context? Are you suggesting we just pull random players out of thin air and have them help us? Or maybe you can only summon group members (if so, isn't that what the "travel to player" function is for?)?Sorcerer summons PVE crap.. I'm talking about being able to summon other players.. This skill is common in MMOs
Not thin air.. ever heard of Almsivi or Divine intervention??? this suggestion only applies to Cyrodiil... give Templar ability to summon another player... 3-6 minute cool-down is perfect way to balance it.
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✭✭emeraldbay wrote: »Summon other players in what context? Are you suggesting we just pull random players out of thin air and have them help us?
Now that would be a novel and interesting idea to see in an MMO. Anyone who knows the card game "Munchkin" knows and positively loves the card Kneecaps of Allure, making another player help you against their will.
And with all that discussion going on about "failed encouragement to group" (devs' pov) a.k.a. "forced grouping" (players' pov), this would be an ideal solution: those who want to group can do so without hustle and wait times; those who don't are finally forced to see the goodness of it all (it's for their own good, really).
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✭We're gimp. We're healers which are the traditional summoners. Give us the ability to summon players please. Please & Thanx
Healers are traditional summoners? since when?
Necromancers, Warlocks are traditional summoners, Then maybe Mage/Sorcerer would be next, then at a stretch of the imagination Healers !
In your defence I agree the ability to summon group members would be a nice addition, worked well in other MMOs.
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Enkil✭✭✭✭✭
✭We're gimp. We're healers which are the traditional summoners. Give us the ability to summon players please. Please & Thanx
Healers are traditional summoners? since when?
Necromancers, Warlocks are traditional summoners, Then maybe Mage/Sorcerer would be next, then at a stretch of the imagination Healers !
In your defence I agree the ability to summon group members would be a nice addition, worked well in other MMOs.
since Shadowbane (2002).... only healer base can summon other players in that game.. summoning minions/pets doesn't count
Summoning other players on a class that can't DPS or has the lowest DPS (pure healer in other games, Templar in ESO) is logical and was normal...Edited by Enkil on July 5, 2014 10:23AM0 -
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✭✭We need better magicka management to be sure.. but summon would be awesome! Didn't say we need it.. it's a function that doesn't currently exist in ESO but is common in MMO's and should.... and we are the class that should get it....
technically lore wise it would be the Sorcerers who get it due to DAEDRIC SUMMONING
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✭✭We're gimp. We're healers which are the traditional summoners. Give us the ability to summon players please. Please & Thanx
Healers are traditional summoners? since when?
Necromancers, Warlocks are traditional summoners, Then maybe Mage/Sorcerer would be next, then at a stretch of the imagination Healers !
In your defence I agree the ability to summon group members would be a nice addition, worked well in other MMOs.
since Shadowbane (2002).... only healer base can summon other players in that game.. summoning minions/pets doesn't count
Summoning other players on a class that can't DPS or has the lowest DPS (pure healer in other games, Templar in ESO) is logical and was normal...
Since Shadowbane????
Since a game in a different series???
Um, no, in Tamriel any mage could summon a Daedra, and Sorcerors are definately mage based. Templars don't need summons, they can fight quite well enough as it is.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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✭✭emeraldbay wrote: »
Summon other players in what context? Are you suggesting we just pull random players out of thin air and have them help us? Or maybe you can only summon group members (if so, isn't that what the "travel to player" function is for?)?Sorcerer summons PVE crap.. I'm talking about being able to summon other players.. This skill is common in MMOs
Not thin air.. ever heard of Almsivi or Divine intervention??? this suggestion only applies to Cyrodiil... give Templar ability to summon another player... 3-6 minute cool-down is perfect way to balance it.
The point was, in groups it's not needed, out of groups it's random griefing. Imagine your playing along doing a quest, and pow, you get summoned to help a random Templar (in your faction obviously). I myself would probably walk away and leave the induhvidual who ruined my gaming to die.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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Couldn't have said it better myself.AlexDougherty wrote: »emeraldbay wrote: »
Summon other players in what context? Are you suggesting we just pull random players out of thin air and have them help us? Or maybe you can only summon group members (if so, isn't that what the "travel to player" function is for?)?Sorcerer summons PVE crap.. I'm talking about being able to summon other players.. This skill is common in MMOs
Not thin air.. ever heard of Almsivi or Divine intervention??? this suggestion only applies to Cyrodiil... give Templar ability to summon another player... 3-6 minute cool-down is perfect way to balance it.
The point was, in groups it's not needed, out of groups it's random griefing. Imagine your playing along doing a quest, and pow, you get summoned to help a random Templar (in your faction obviously). I myself would probably walk away and leave the induhvidual who ruined my gaming to die.
There would have to be a LFS (looking for summon) tool, and the other player would have to agree to be summoned, in order for it to be as grief-free as possible.
But even then, if you're in battle, there's no guarantee they'll arrive on time, or even accept your plea in the first place. It's just a bad idea altogether.-T h e - A l d m e r i - I n i t i a t i v e-— O r d e r - o f - t h e - R a v y n —0 -
vmoped✭✭I wouldn't say a player summons spell like in other mmos, but a portal spell would fit in with the game. So many of the npc's use it, why can't the players? Of course those npc's appear to be sorcs...
Templars need better magika management first, imo, than more gimmicks. I would like to see something like gain x or % magika with every player healed, or +% magika regen for each heal power (or any Templar power) slotted, etc...
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vmoped✭✭AlexDougherty wrote: »emeraldbay wrote: »
Summon other players in what context? Are you suggesting we just pull random players out of thin air and have them help us? Or maybe you can only summon group members (if so, isn't that what the "travel to player" function is for?)?Sorcerer summons PVE crap.. I'm talking about being able to summon other players.. This skill is common in MMOs
Not thin air.. ever heard of Almsivi or Divine intervention??? this suggestion only applies to Cyrodiil... give Templar ability to summon another player... 3-6 minute cool-down is perfect way to balance it.
The point was, in groups it's not needed, out of groups it's random griefing. Imagine your playing along doing a quest, and pow, you get summoned to help a random Templar (in your faction obviously). I myself would probably walk away and leave the induhvidual who ruined my gaming to die.
Traditionally player summons in other mmo's is a voluntary way of traveling vast distances and assisting with gathering together for groups. I cannot recall a single mmo where it was not voluntary.
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Madval✭✭✭emeraldbay wrote: »
Summon other players in what context? Are you suggesting we just pull random players out of thin air and have them help us? Or maybe you can only summon group members (if so, isn't that what the "travel to player" function is for?)?Sorcerer summons PVE crap.. I'm talking about being able to summon other players.. This skill is common in MMOs
Lol fabulous I'm questing and POUF ! I disapear and being teleported I don't know where... "you have been requested to help this player !" 0 -
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✭I'm not talking about summoning Daedra!!! DUH! I don't even think classes should exists from a lore standpoint but don't get me started on that!
I'm saying that since Templars are the healing class (ergo gimp DPS class) they should be able to summon other players. Remove classes and of course summoning other players would belong to a CLASS-LESS Conjuration skill line. In the current game, Sorcerers are the only ones given that skill line and are too overpowered to give it to!!!
Edited by Enkil on July 5, 2014 11:54AM0 -
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✭AlexDougherty wrote: »We're gimp. We're healers which are the traditional summoners. Give us the ability to summon players please. Please & Thanx
Healers are traditional summoners? since when?
Necromancers, Warlocks are traditional summoners, Then maybe Mage/Sorcerer would be next, then at a stretch of the imagination Healers !
In your defence I agree the ability to summon group members would be a nice addition, worked well in other MMOs.
since Shadowbane (2002).... only healer base can summon other players in that game.. summoning minions/pets doesn't count
Summoning other players on a class that can't DPS or has the lowest DPS (pure healer in other games, Templar in ESO) is logical and was normal...
Since Shadowbane????
Since a game in a different series???
Um, no, in Tamriel any mage could summon a Daedra, and Sorcerors are definately mage based. Templars don't need summons, they can fight quite well enough as it is.
Hey, I didn't make up ESO.. imo Templar's are an abomination that don't exist in Tamriel except in their dev minds (DAoC minds)... I can't help it that some outside dev team is making the game rather than Bethesda.... The fact is they are now in game and we have to deal with it!! Templars are the healer archetype....
Edited by Enkil on July 5, 2014 11:52AM0 -
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Templar is not a healing class.I'm not talking about summoning Daedra!!! DUH! I don't even think classes should exists from a lore standpoint but don't get me started on that!
I'm saying that since Templars are the healing class (ergo gimp DPS class) they should be able to summon other players. Remove classes and of course summoning other players would belong to a CLASS-LESS Conjuration skill line.
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Templar is not a healing class.I'm not talking about summoning Daedra!!! DUH! I don't even think classes should exists from a lore standpoint but don't get me started on that!
I'm saying that since Templars are the healing class (ergo gimp DPS class) they should be able to summon other players. Remove classes and of course summoning other players would belong to a CLASS-LESS Conjuration skill line.
NO *** SHURLOCK! But these ESO Dev's think they are and have made it so in the game so I'm using their playbook!0 -
emeraldbay✭✭✭✭✭Templars are the most obvious choice for healing, but Nightblades can be just as effective, albeit they work a bit differently.
Although, no class is really a "healing class", because anyone with a restoration staff can try their hand.-T h e - A l d m e r i - I n i t i a t i v e-— O r d e r - o f - t h e - R a v y n —0 -
Coggage✭✭✭✭How would "summoning players" in any way be better or more efficient than just using the existing feature to "travel to" a player in your group or guild?Edited by Coggage on July 5, 2014 12:04PM0
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I do not think that they think that templars are healers.
NO *** SHURLOCK! But these ESO Dev's think they are and have made it so in the game so I'm using their playbook!
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✭How would "summoning players" in any way be better or more efficient than just using the existing feature to "travel to" a player in your group or guild?
Are u serious? How bout "You cannot jump within the same campaign".
Is it not obvious that this suggestion relates to Cyrodiil??? If so, I'm sorry.. I'm suggesting this for Cyrodiil!
Edited by Enkil on July 5, 2014 12:13PM0
