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Fan Sites Are Dead
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Maverick827✭✭✭✭✭
✭For me it just feels like a game is so small and insignificant when no one is talking about it outside of its own forums.4 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Fans don't go to fan sites.
Haters go to fan sites.
The fact that the game is a ghost town and all the fan sites are dead is a good sign.
It all makes sense if you just don't think about it.12 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »
Someone posted an historical chart on these forums a few days ago that showed WoW had 1.8 million at start and had 3.5 million in 6 months time.
True story.Edited by Blackwidow on July 3, 2014 2:35AM4 -
Ragnar_Lodbrok✭✭✭✭✭
✭Blackwidow wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »
Someone posted an historical chaet on these forums a few days ago that showed WoW had 1.8 million at start and had 3.5 million in 6 months time.
True story.
Yes good to pointout the only possible game to have done it, so I guess basically the game is dead unless it has a wow-jesus moment3 -
ShedsHisTail✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »
Um....
http://www.statista.com/statistics/276601/number-of-world-of-warcraft-subscribers-by-quarter/"As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
Have you seen the Twin Lamps?0 -
OrangeTheCat✭✭✭✭✭
✭My $0.02: Back when this forum was unusable, I went to Tamriel Foundry. Now that this forum is usable, I no longer go to Tamriel Foundry. To the extent that I am typical, that explains some of the drop and to that extent conspiracy theories are not required.2 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Blackwidow wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »
Someone posted an historical chaet on these forums a few days ago that showed WoW had 1.8 million at start and had 3.5 million in 6 months time.
True story.
Yes good to point out the only possible game to have done it, so I guess basically the game is dead unless it has a wow-jesus moment
When someone says it has never, ever happened, I think it's okay to show it has.
So, back off.
I never said it was common.
FYI, this also happened with M 59, UO and EQ. However these are all old games, so again should not be looked at as the norm.Edited by Blackwidow on July 2, 2014 6:41PM1 -
ShedsHisTail✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Blackwidow wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »
Someone posted an historical chaet on these forums a few days ago that showed WoW had 1.8 million at start and had 3.5 million in 6 months time.
True story.
Yes good to pointout the only possible game to have done it, so I guess basically the game is dead unless it has a wow-jesus moment
I suspect that was pointed out because it's the most quickly identifiable MMO on the market, and the one with the most readily available statistics to reference. But if -this- graph is relevant:
http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-1.png
It looks like a lot of MMOs experience growth in the first twelve months.
Or this one:
http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-2.png
Or this:
http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-3.png
And some of those games are -terrible-.
It's almost like you're wrong.Edited by ShedsHisTail on July 2, 2014 6:51PM"As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
Have you seen the Twin Lamps?3 -
Food4Thought✭✭✭My take ...
I'm a part of three guilds and all three see limited activity.
As for players, I see them in the major cities but out in the game world I probably run into less than a dozen players a sitting.
As for these forums, they seem active. Not as active as some, but at least you can find a forum from two days ago without finding it 12 pages down or still on the first page when the last response was two days ago.
As for fan sites, I hardly visit a one. The only time I have was to find out where some treasure chest or sky shard was located. That has pretty much it.
And finally about addons ... I don't use them. WoW broke me of that habit. Too many updates and too many nonfunctional ones that screw with your UI.2 -
Dusty5✭✭✭no and here is the future. TESO will continue on this route till they get console launch. After 3-4 weeks of gouging new people for full price they will go F2P. Like the dude in the move. Game over dude....game overEdited by Dusty5 on July 2, 2014 6:50PM2
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Mortosk✭✭✭✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »
Ack, head and shoulders pattern. WoW is doomed!
"Now I stand, the lion before the lambs and they do not fear. They can not fear." --Arthas Menethil (aka, The Lich King)0 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ack, head and shoulders pattern. WoW ESO is doomed!
Fixed it for ya.
Truth is, some people do leave when a game first comes out, but by now if the game was doing well, people would be running to the stores to join this game.
We would see a ton of new players asking dumb questions in zone chat, like, "How do we get a horse".
We see none of that.
Time to face facts, like it or not, ESO is a low population game.1 -
Loco_Mofo✭✭✭✭✭All the fan sites I used to visit have slowed down dramatically, there's really no point checking them anymore.
This forum and reddit are the only real remaining forums still showing decent amounts of activity. No, not a good sign only 3 months in.0 -
Catches_the_Sun✭✭✭✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »
Dark Age gained popularity in time. It was never expected to be the hit that it ultimately became.
As for ESO, there is now a front page article on www.mmorpg.com. Everybody happy?
Edited by Catches_the_Sun on July 3, 2014 12:44AMCatches-the-Sun - Argonian Templar - Master Smith, Provisioner, Chemist & Tailor
Valaren Arobone - Dunmer Flamewalker - Master Woodworker, Provisioner, Assassin
Kazahad - Khajiiti Arcane Archer - Master Thief
V'orkten - Redguard Swordmaster
Finnvardr the Frenzied - Werewolf Berzerker1 -
SFBryan18✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oh how fun it will be on this forum when the console players arrive to save the day. The real wars have yet to begin.3 -
catpower✭✭✭I know my play and fan site time has dropped, but that's more because I live in Seattle and if I want to even see the sun at all in a year, I have exactly 2 months to do it and that time is now, lol!1 -
Breg_Magol✭✭✭✭Maverick827 wrote: »Has anyone else noticed that pretty much all fan sites for this game are dead?
Tamriel Foundry forums are so slow. Topics frequently go days without responses. In-depth discussions of mechanics and builds are slowing to a trickle.
Are there any fan sites that are still alive?
Regarding Tamriel Foundry .. you're wrong. I just checked and the place is active. Anyone can check for themselves .. so your post smacks of deliberate misinformation.
It seems to be the thing these days .. lie often enough about some things and people will begin to accept it as truth.
I agree that ESO needs to keep developing and improving .. and the honest truth is that it is. Maybe not to the timeline or the liking of some ... but that's not the consumers decision to make. The consumer can voice opinions and concerns on how the gameplay might improve, or that they're experiencing technical issues .. but at the end of the day if they don't like the outcome they can choose to un-sub.
What I do have an issue with is how many of these people appear to have chosen the path of vile spite. It's like watching a bunch of rabid jackals trying to take down a beast for sport.3 -
Breg_Magol✭✭✭✭The class build section of tamriel foundry has been "coming soon" for a very long time.
Another outright lie .. This is the stats for the 1st topic .. begun 3 months ago ..This topic byAvatar Image Rial contains 592 posts by 253 members, and was last updated by CrimsonJihad, 13 hours, 30 minutes ago.
So my question is .. have the people who clicked 'Agree' on your post even checked?
That's what I did btw .. because I don't often visit Tamriel Foundry .. but with so many parasites around who appear to be playing the baiting game I thought I should check .. and as I thought .. you're a misinformation specialist .. a liar by any other definition.5 -
discosoc✭✭✭Catches_the_Sun wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »
Dark Age gained popularity in time. It was never expected to be the hit that it ultimately became.
As for ESO, there is now a front page article on www.mmorpg.com. Everybody happy?
Dark Age also existed during a time when alternatives were fairly limited. It carved a niche for people looking for PvP in an MMO. And even it tanked hard after the Trials of Atlantis screw up. Which is something it never fully recovered from due to WoW releasing a year later.1 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Catches_the_Sun wrote: »
As for ESO, there is now a front page article on www.mmorpg.com. Everybody happy?
Did you read the article? Or at least the title?
Is ESO Dying or Just Carving a Niche?
He said most of the PvP players have all gathered to one campaign because of lack of players.
He said he lost 80 players so far from in his own guild.
It's not looking good.Edited by Blackwidow on July 3, 2014 1:58AM4 -
badmojo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Blackwidow wrote: »Catches_the_Sun wrote: »
As for ESO, there is now a front page article on www.mmorpg.com. Everybody happy?
Did you read the article? Or at least the title?
Is ESO Dying or Just Carving a Niche?
He said most of the PvP players have all gathered to one campaign because of lack of players.
He said he lost 80 players so far from in his own guild.
It's not looking good.
He also said...ESO is a game that hasn’t truly been done before, it’s a game that is designed around its leveling experience, and those who rushed through the content to get to level cap and “End Game” essentially skipped what the same is designed on. ESO isn’t trying to be the next World of Warcraft, it’s trying to be itself, and for some people that’s not enough, but for the thousands of players who are still playing it, it’s enough.
The article is about looking at both sides of the situation, yet all you did was list all the negatives and ignore the rest.[DC/NA]5 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
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He also said...ESO is a game that hasn’t truly been done before, it’s a game that is designed around its leveling experience, and those who rushed through the content to get to level cap and “End Game” essentially skipped what the same is designed on. ESO isn’t trying to be the next World of Warcraft, it’s trying to be itself, and for some people that’s not enough, but for the thousands of players who are still playing it, it’s enough.
The article is about looking at both sides of the situation, yet all you did was list all the negatives and ignore the rest.
You want to explain what the positive side of that paragraph is?
He is saying the people who do not like the game rushed through it. You really think that is the core of the problem with ESO?
Then he said ESO isn’t trying to be the next World of Warcraft. Great, but I bet ZOS would love WoW's numbers.
Then he says he thinks for the thousands of players left, it's enough.
It's enough? Is that what you are settling for? Enough?
Great review. It's not a great game, but for some that is enough.
Edited by Blackwidow on July 3, 2014 2:40AM6 -
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When your car breaks down and you take it to the shop, do you go over all the great things about the car or do you just tell the repair person what is wrong with the car?
So, duh, people who come here to tell ZOS what is wrong, just wants the stuff fixed.
You want to hold their hand and make sure their feeling don't get hurt, be my guest.Edited by Blackwidow on July 3, 2014 2:44AM5 -
badmojo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Blackwidow wrote: »
He also said...ESO is a game that hasn’t truly been done before, it’s a game that is designed around its leveling experience, and those who rushed through the content to get to level cap and “End Game” essentially skipped what the same is designed on. ESO isn’t trying to be the next World of Warcraft, it’s trying to be itself, and for some people that’s not enough, but for the thousands of players who are still playing it, it’s enough.
The article is about looking at both sides of the situation, yet all you did was list all the negatives and ignore the rest.
You want to explain what the positive side of that paragraph is?
He is saying the people who do not like the game rushed through it. You really think that is the core of the problem with ESO?
Then he said ESO isn’t trying to be the next World of Warcraft. Great, but I bet ZOS would love WoW's numbers.
Then he says he thinks for the thousands of players left, it's enough.
It's enough? Is that what you are settling for? Enough?
Great review. It's not a great game, but for some that is enough.
I see the whole point of that paragraph was lost on you.
The people who rushed through it, missed out on the game they rushed through, that is THEIR problem, not a problem with the game.
It's enough for the people who love it. Meaning they're not settling, what the game is, is enough for them to consider it a great game.
I'm sure ZOS would love WoW's numbers, who wouldn't from a business standpoint? I'm just glad they decided not to copy WoW in a futile attempt to get those numbers. Rather they decided to be their own game, blaze a new path down the MMO trail.
I hated playing WOW, everything that ESO did differently I liked. So no matter how many numbers WoW or a clone has, it's not a great game TO ME.
I respect that you think ESO isn't a great game. At least give us the same respect and understand that we don't all agree with you, in fact some of us think the game is great.
(I better clarify, since I know how you like to spin posts, great doesn't not mean perfect. I've never seen anyone saying ESO was perfect and free from faults. So don't even start with that.)[DC/NA]7
