Malpherian wrote: »I Googled "Enclave WoW Servers lawsuit", and the first few links are saying that Blizzard WON an $88m suit against a private server.
Oh Blizzard wins some, I never said they didn't. They just lose a lot too. And their attorney has the power to censor what suits get out on the web also, which is why generally the only ones you find are ones they win.
No company period ever wins 100% of the lawsuits against them, especially one as old as blizzard.
On the class action suit, the only difference in a class action and a personal suit is a class action involves a TON of people. There are way less of those that happen. But my point was that the OP could Sue ZOS if he wanted for any number of reasons, especially if he lives in the US.
In the US I can sue you for looking at me wrong and win. Trust me, he can sue them if he wants and may actually win depending on what it's for and who the judge is and how the judge feels about "Internet fantasy games".
nerevarine1138 wrote: »Malpherian wrote: »I Googled "Enclave WoW Servers lawsuit", and the first few links are saying that Blizzard WON an $88m suit against a private server.
Oh Blizzard wins some, I never said they didn't. They just lose a lot too. And their attorney has the power to censor what suits get out on the web also, which is why generally the only ones you find are ones they win.
No company period ever wins 100% of the lawsuits against them, especially one as old as blizzard.
On the class action suit, the only difference in a class action and a personal suit is a class action involves a TON of people. There are way less of those that happen. But my point was that the OP could Sue ZOS if he wanted for any number of reasons, especially if he lives in the US.
In the US I can sue you for looking at me wrong and win. Trust me, he can sue them if he wants and may actually win depending on what it's for and who the judge is and how the judge feels about "Internet fantasy games".
Right.
So Blizzard won that $88 million suit against you guys, but they apparently lost a half-dozen other secret lawsuits? Is that what you're asking everyone to believe?
It's not a nitpick at all. The topic is class action lawsuits, which are completely different from regular lawsuits, and you lied and claimed that Blizzard loses class action lawsuits all the time.Malpherian wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »Malpherian wrote: »I Googled "Enclave WoW Servers lawsuit", and the first few links are saying that Blizzard WON an $88m suit against a private server.
Oh Blizzard wins some, I never said they didn't. They just lose a lot too. And their attorney has the power to censor what suits get out on the web also, which is why generally the only ones you find are ones they win.
No company period ever wins 100% of the lawsuits against them, especially one as old as blizzard.
On the class action suit, the only difference in a class action and a personal suit is a class action involves a TON of people. There are way less of those that happen. But my point was that the OP could Sue ZOS if he wanted for any number of reasons, especially if he lives in the US.
In the US I can sue you for looking at me wrong and win. Trust me, he can sue them if he wants and may actually win depending on what it's for and who the judge is and how the judge feels about "Internet fantasy games".
Right.
So Blizzard won that $88 million suit against you guys, but they apparently lost a half-dozen other secret lawsuits? Is that what you're asking everyone to believe?
No they didn't win anything against "us" that was another server. We only made about 50k a year in donations. and as I said before the judge threw out the DCI every time due to lack of evidence on blizzards part.
Also I changed the comment to say "Blizzard loses Lawsuits all the time, to make the nitpickers and grammar nazis happy.
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Malpherian wrote: »
In the US I can sue you for looking at me wrong and win. Trust me, he can sue them if he wants and may actually win depending on what it's for and who the judge is and how the judge feels about "Internet fantasy games".
Malpherian wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »Malpherian wrote: »I Googled "Enclave WoW Servers lawsuit", and the first few links are saying that Blizzard WON an $88m suit against a private server.
Oh Blizzard wins some, I never said they didn't. They just lose a lot too. And their attorney has the power to censor what suits get out on the web also, which is why generally the only ones you find are ones they win.
No company period ever wins 100% of the lawsuits against them, especially one as old as blizzard.
On the class action suit, the only difference in a class action and a personal suit is a class action involves a TON of people. There are way less of those that happen. But my point was that the OP could Sue ZOS if he wanted for any number of reasons, especially if he lives in the US.
In the US I can sue you for looking at me wrong and win. Trust me, he can sue them if he wants and may actually win depending on what it's for and who the judge is and how the judge feels about "Internet fantasy games".
Right.
So Blizzard won that $88 million suit against you guys, but they apparently lost a half-dozen other secret lawsuits? Is that what you're asking everyone to believe?
No they didn't win anything against "us" that was another server. We only made about 50k a year in donations. and as I said before the judge threw out the DCI every time due to lack of evidence on blizzards part. Agfter the 5th time they stopped trying to sue us and moved to sueing another server. That's how they work they harass you trying to get you to shut down and if you don't and start costing them money they leave you alone and move to the next.
Also I changed the comment to say "Blizzard loses Lawsuits all the time, to make the nitpickers and grammar nazis happy.
nerevarine1138 wrote: »Malpherian wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »Malpherian wrote: »I Googled "Enclave WoW Servers lawsuit", and the first few links are saying that Blizzard WON an $88m suit against a private server.
Oh Blizzard wins some, I never said they didn't. They just lose a lot too. And their attorney has the power to censor what suits get out on the web also, which is why generally the only ones you find are ones they win.
No company period ever wins 100% of the lawsuits against them, especially one as old as blizzard.
On the class action suit, the only difference in a class action and a personal suit is a class action involves a TON of people. There are way less of those that happen. But my point was that the OP could Sue ZOS if he wanted for any number of reasons, especially if he lives in the US.
In the US I can sue you for looking at me wrong and win. Trust me, he can sue them if he wants and may actually win depending on what it's for and who the judge is and how the judge feels about "Internet fantasy games".
Right.
So Blizzard won that $88 million suit against you guys, but they apparently lost a half-dozen other secret lawsuits? Is that what you're asking everyone to believe?
No they didn't win anything against "us" that was another server. We only made about 50k a year in donations. and as I said before the judge threw out the DCI every time due to lack of evidence on blizzards part. Agfter the 5th time they stopped trying to sue us and moved to sueing another server. That's how they work they harass you trying to get you to shut down and if you don't and start costing them money they leave you alone and move to the next.
Also I changed the comment to say "Blizzard loses Lawsuits all the time, to make the nitpickers and grammar nazis happy.
Your story changes every time.
So you won money from Blizzard, but you didn't win money from Blizzard. You ran Enclave, but the Enclave that lost the $88 million was apparently a totally different server. These lawsuits all totally happened, but there are no records anywhere of them actually existing.
On the plus side, this breathed new life into a really stale thread. Instead of debating how ridiculous the OP is, we can talk about how much of a liar you are.
nerevarine1138 wrote: »Malpherian wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »Malpherian wrote: »I Googled "Enclave WoW Servers lawsuit", and the first few links are saying that Blizzard WON an $88m suit against a private server.
Oh Blizzard wins some, I never said they didn't. They just lose a lot too. And their attorney has the power to censor what suits get out on the web also, which is why generally the only ones you find are ones they win.
No company period ever wins 100% of the lawsuits against them, especially one as old as blizzard.
On the class action suit, the only difference in a class action and a personal suit is a class action involves a TON of people. There are way less of those that happen. But my point was that the OP could Sue ZOS if he wanted for any number of reasons, especially if he lives in the US.
In the US I can sue you for looking at me wrong and win. Trust me, he can sue them if he wants and may actually win depending on what it's for and who the judge is and how the judge feels about "Internet fantasy games".
Right.
So Blizzard won that $88 million suit against you guys, but they apparently lost a half-dozen other secret lawsuits? Is that what you're asking everyone to believe?
No they didn't win anything against "us" that was another server. We only made about 50k a year in donations. and as I said before the judge threw out the DCI every time due to lack of evidence on blizzards part. Agfter the 5th time they stopped trying to sue us and moved to sueing another server. That's how they work they harass you trying to get you to shut down and if you don't and start costing them money they leave you alone and move to the next.
Also I changed the comment to say "Blizzard loses Lawsuits all the time, to make the nitpickers and grammar nazis happy.
Your story changes every time.
So you won money from Blizzard, but you didn't win money from Blizzard. You ran Enclave, but the Enclave that lost the $88 million was apparently a totally different server. These lawsuits all totally happened, but there are no records anywhere of them actually existing.
On the plus side, this breathed new life into a really stale thread. Instead of debating how ridiculous the OP is, we can talk about how much of a liar you are.
It's not a nitpick at all. The topic is class action lawsuits, which are completely different from regular lawsuits, and you lied and claimed that Blizzard loses class action lawsuits all the time.
nerevarine1138 wrote: »Malpherian wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »Malpherian wrote: »I Googled "Enclave WoW Servers lawsuit", and the first few links are saying that Blizzard WON an $88m suit against a private server.
Oh Blizzard wins some, I never said they didn't. They just lose a lot too. And their attorney has the power to censor what suits get out on the web also, which is why generally the only ones you find are ones they win.
No company period ever wins 100% of the lawsuits against them, especially one as old as blizzard.
On the class action suit, the only difference in a class action and a personal suit is a class action involves a TON of people. There are way less of those that happen. But my point was that the OP could Sue ZOS if he wanted for any number of reasons, especially if he lives in the US.
In the US I can sue you for looking at me wrong and win. Trust me, he can sue them if he wants and may actually win depending on what it's for and who the judge is and how the judge feels about "Internet fantasy games".
Right.
So Blizzard won that $88 million suit against you guys, but they apparently lost a half-dozen other secret lawsuits? Is that what you're asking everyone to believe?
No they didn't win anything against "us" that was another server. We only made about 50k a year in donations. and as I said before the judge threw out the DCI every time due to lack of evidence on blizzards part. Agfter the 5th time they stopped trying to sue us and moved to sueing another server. That's how they work they harass you trying to get you to shut down and if you don't and start costing them money they leave you alone and move to the next.
Also I changed the comment to say "Blizzard loses Lawsuits all the time, to make the nitpickers and grammar nazis happy.
Your story changes every time.
So you won money from Blizzard, but you didn't win money from Blizzard. You ran Enclave, but the Enclave that lost the $88 million was apparently a totally different server. These lawsuits all totally happened, but there are no records anywhere of them actually existing.
On the plus side, this breathed new life into a really stale thread. Instead of debating how ridiculous the OP is, we can talk about how much of a liar you are.
You guys are honestly getting pretty close to it... this has probably been the worst gaming experience I've seen and I've played mmo's since 96'. Start paying for competent developers or stop charging for this game period. Enough is enough.
christopher.pesapaneub17_ESO wrote: »As someone who actually graduated law school this thread is pretty laughable. I won't go into all the small details but most importantly you need to show damages that a lawsuit of any kind is supposed to remedy. I don't see how your unhappiness with a product you purchased constitutes damages.
Uh oh a law school grad.
Malpherian wrote: »It's not a nitpick at all. The topic is class action lawsuits, which are completely different from regular lawsuits, and you lied and claimed that Blizzard loses class action lawsuits all the time.
Heres some links for you:
PS Activision is Blizzard Entertainment, Maybe you should try looking that up instead if you couldn't find these.
1. Class action over forced authenticator usage:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/class-action-lawsuit-diablo-StarCraft-authenticator-Benjamin-Bell,19057.html
2. Lawsuit for Illegal accounting
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/activision-slammed-with-class-action-lawsuit/1100-6090933/
That's just 2 There are a lot more. They've been sued for false advertisement a number of times.
Malpherian wrote: »It's not a nitpick at all. The topic is class action lawsuits, which are completely different from regular lawsuits, and you lied and claimed that Blizzard loses class action lawsuits all the time.
Heres some links for you:
PS Activision is Blizzard Entertainment, Maybe you should try looking that up instead if you couldn't find these.
1. Class action over forced authenticator usage:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/class-action-lawsuit-diablo-StarCraft-authenticator-Benjamin-Bell,19057.html
2. Lawsuit for Illegal accounting
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/activision-slammed-with-class-action-lawsuit/1100-6090933/
That's just 2 There are a lot more. They've been sued for false advertisement a number of times.
Malpherian wrote: »It's not a nitpick at all. The topic is class action lawsuits, which are completely different from regular lawsuits, and you lied and claimed that Blizzard loses class action lawsuits all the time.
Heres some links for you:
PS Activision is Blizzard Entertainment, Maybe you should try looking that up instead if you couldn't find these.
1. Class action over forced authenticator usage:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/class-action-lawsuit-diablo-StarCraft-authenticator-Benjamin-Bell,19057.html
2. Lawsuit for Illegal accounting
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/activision-slammed-with-class-action-lawsuit/1100-6090933/
That's just 2 There are a lot more. They've been sued for false advertisement a number of times.
Great, you've provided 2 links that talk about class action lawsuits being filed. Where are the links showing class action lawsuits being lost by Blizzard? Remember, you're the one who claimed they lose these lawsuits all the time, so the burden of proof is on you.Malpherian wrote: »It's not a nitpick at all. The topic is class action lawsuits, which are completely different from regular lawsuits, and you lied and claimed that Blizzard loses class action lawsuits all the time.
Heres some links for you:
PS Activision is Blizzard Entertainment, Maybe you should try looking that up instead if you couldn't find these.
1. Class action over forced authenticator usage:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/class-action-lawsuit-diablo-StarCraft-authenticator-Benjamin-Bell,19057.html
2. Lawsuit for Illegal accounting
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/activision-slammed-with-class-action-lawsuit/1100-6090933/
That's just 2 There are a lot more. They've been sued for false advertisement a number of times.
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Thorntongue wrote: »christopher.pesapaneub17_ESO wrote: »As someone who actually graduated law school this thread is pretty laughable. I won't go into all the small details but most importantly you need to show damages that a lawsuit of any kind is supposed to remedy. I don't see how your unhappiness with a product you purchased constitutes damages.
Uh oh a law school grad.
He'd probably a paralegal working for some scumbag debt buying collection agency. The kind that'll threaten your grandmother with arrest, when it's illegal to do so. Of course he might be sincere, but on the internet I can claim to be a test pilot for the next Mars mission, but when in actuality a space cadet does not mean the same.
Your story changes every time.
So you won money from Blizzard, but you didn't win money from Blizzard. You ran Enclave, but the Enclave that lost the $88 million was apparently a totally different server. These lawsuits all totally happened, but there are no records anywhere of them actually existing.
On the plus side, this breathed new life into a really stale thread. Instead of debating how ridiculous the OP is, we can talk about how much of a liar you are.
Great, you've provided 2 links that talk about class action lawsuits being filed. Where are the links showing class action lawsuits being lost by Blizzard? Remember, you're the one who claimed they lose these lawsuits all the time, so the burden of proof is on you.Malpherian wrote: »It's not a nitpick at all. The topic is class action lawsuits, which are completely different from regular lawsuits, and you lied and claimed that Blizzard loses class action lawsuits all the time.
Heres some links for you:
PS Activision is Blizzard Entertainment, Maybe you should try looking that up instead if you couldn't find these.
1. Class action over forced authenticator usage:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/class-action-lawsuit-diablo-StarCraft-authenticator-Benjamin-Bell,19057.html
2. Lawsuit for Illegal accounting
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/activision-slammed-with-class-action-lawsuit/1100-6090933/
That's just 2 There are a lot more. They've been sued for false advertisement a number of times.
Malpherian wrote: »It's not a nitpick at all. The topic is class action lawsuits, which are completely different from regular lawsuits, and you lied and claimed that Blizzard loses class action lawsuits all the time.
Heres some links for you:
PS Activision is Blizzard Entertainment, Maybe you should try looking that up instead if you couldn't find these.
1. Class action over forced authenticator usage:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/class-action-lawsuit-diablo-StarCraft-authenticator-Benjamin-Bell,19057.html
2. Lawsuit for Illegal accounting
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/activision-slammed-with-class-action-lawsuit/1100-6090933/
That's just 2 There are a lot more. They've been sued for false advertisement a number of times.
nerevarine1138 wrote: »You lose again. But thanks for playing.
Malpherian wrote: »
Your story changes every time.
So you won money from Blizzard, but you didn't win money from Blizzard. You ran Enclave, but the Enclave that lost the $88 million was apparently a totally different server. These lawsuits all totally happened, but there are no records anywhere of them actually existing.
On the plus side, this breathed new life into a really stale thread. Instead of debating how ridiculous the OP is, we can talk about how much of a liar you are.
You should learn to read, I never said "I" won money. I said the server I was a CO ADMIN for won a suit against them about addons for money. I am not the owner of "that" server.
I DID say I won 5 suits against them when they tried to sue me for DCI. I didn't win any money though, and I never said I did.
This is why people lose lawsuits, they make assumptions. And those assumptions turn out to be wrong.
You assumed I said something I didn't or twisted the wording in your head to fit your opinion, then attempted to call me a liar by saying I said something I actually never said, because that's the way you "read" it, not what was actually written.
You would have lost that lawsuit.