Update from Jessica on patch 1.2.3

ZOS_GinaBruno

Ok everyone, we can confirm that we will be releasing Update 2 tomorrow starting at 8:00am EDT with the NA megaserver. We'll post the patch notes for this new patch tomorrow morning during the maintenance.

Karikin

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok everyone, we can confirm that we will be releasing Update 2 tomorrow starting at 8:00am EDT with the NA megaserver. We'll post the patch notes for this new patch tomorrow morning during the maintenance.

Awesome and thanks for the update Gina. Ignore the bashers here, from those still having a blast in this game and appreciate all the communication you give us:


THANK YOU

Ragnar_Lodbrok

Yay more DK nerfs, doubt Ill even log in to look

Cogo

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok everyone, we can confirm that we will be releasing Update 2 tomorrow starting at 8:00am EDT with the NA megaserver. We'll post the patch notes for this new patch tomorrow morning during the maintenance.

Thanks!

jelliedsoup

Munku wrote: »

Wow. This level of negativity is exactly why they ignore this forum. Take a good look at your posts, think about what @karikin said and then reread your list again. Ironically you are proving his/her point.

Want them to come on and post in their forums? Give them reason to. Raging pushes them away and leaves this place to the mods.

If they're too worried about posting in their own forums that renders the official tag pointless.

Alphashado

Pele wrote: »

Karikin wrote: »

heh, I have no doubt that people are getting worse here BECAUSE they aren't posting here as much as they used to. I completely agree that they should hire someone to fix the PR mess that they have here.

I'm just saying I don't blame them.... its like walking into a minefield while blindfolded... you just KNOW you are going to be blown to bits.

This.

These forums are more toxic than Molag Bal's breath.

Almost every thread here can be summarized as follows:

- Zomg, you are teh failz! There's nothing wrong with the game! L2P nub. I is fanboi #1.
- This is why I unsubbed. Although I'm unsubbed, I will continue to visit and post on the official ESO forums to complain, offering no constructive input of my own.
- My post is completely off-topic, but I feel I must post and complain about my problem. Yes, the same problem I started ten threads and biased polls about and have hijacked every thread I can to complain about.
- I'm too timid to post, therefore I will change the meaning of LOL and hit that button instead in the hopes that the poster will catch my sneering derision through the Internet.
- Wildstar is better.
- WoW does it like this...

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All forums are toxic. Just google any game and read their forums. It's a human nature issue completely unrelated to ESO or any other specific game.

Maverick827

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok everyone, we can confirm that we will be releasing Update 2 tomorrow starting at 8:00am EDT with the NA megaserver. We'll post the patch notes for this new patch tomorrow morning during the maintenance.

Why do you guys keep deploying untested applications?

I assume your environments look something like this:

Dev
Test
Public Test (Staging)
Production

Why do you always skip the PTS on the actual build that is pushed to Prod? The PTS has only tested 1.2.2. Why roll the dice on 1.2.3? Push these "rider" changes added in 1.2.3 to the PTS, and then push that exact build to Production.

Tavore1138

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok everyone, we can confirm that we will be releasing Update 2 tomorrow starting at 8:00am EDT with the NA megaserver. We'll post the patch notes for this new patch tomorrow morning during the maintenance.

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ - and once again thank you for keeping us in the loop on this.

Ragnar_Lodbrok

Maverick827 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok everyone, we can confirm that we will be releasing Update 2 tomorrow starting at 8:00am EDT with the NA megaserver. We'll post the patch notes for this new patch tomorrow morning during the maintenance.

Why do you guys keep deploying untested applications?

I assume your environments look something like this:

Dev
Test
Public Test (Staging)
Production

Why do you always skip the PTS on the actual build that is pushed to Prod? The PTS has only tested 1.2.2. Why roll the dice on 1.2.3? Push these "rider" changes added in 1.2.3 to the PTS, and then push that exact build to Production.

People on pts are only there to learn of exploits first

Worstluck

Maverick827 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok everyone, we can confirm that we will be releasing Update 2 tomorrow starting at 8:00am EDT with the NA megaserver. We'll post the patch notes for this new patch tomorrow morning during the maintenance.

Why do you guys keep deploying untested applications?

I assume your environments look something like this:

Dev
Test
Public Test (Staging)
Production

Why do you always skip the PTS on the actual build that is pushed to Prod? The PTS has only tested 1.2.2. Why roll the dice on 1.2.3? Push these "rider" changes added in 1.2.3 to the PTS, and then push that exact build to Production.

Makes no sense to me either. I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of changes from 1.2.2 to 1.2.3 based on their recent posts. Tomorrow is going to be interesting to say the least.

SwampRaider

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Whos testing the build, ER?

har har har....

is it wrong that I lol'd out of my chair to that statement? Thank you, sir!

CapuchinSeven

WebBull wrote: »

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

Love how that never made the forum. Despite other posts saying the 23rd.

Guess they had to get one "We'll tell you the day prior" right... well half right.

BFD, get over it, so it's delayed one day. Go outside and eat a popsicle.

That really wasn't his point at all, was it.

Sakiri

hamon wrote: »

kitsinni wrote: »

"Entitled" the most overused word in the last decade.

and almost always used incorrectly. i blame the americans during the last election run it was a mantra of the T party to bash the poor with and some folk just ran with it. ask for anything changed and your a filthy entitlement junky.

the way they use it as a put down for an entire generation is shocking. Why would anyone listen to or give credence to someone who seeks to demonize an entire generation for political gain.

For the sake of argument, have you ever actually looked at the people they were describing?

"We demand you do this" "we deserve this but don't want to do anything for it" etc.

ie: people on unemployment but not actively looking for work whining about benefit cuts, college students complaining there's no jobs but refusing to work menial labor or fast food, etc.

Saw one story where this lady said she was desperate for work, the judge in the case offered for her to do lawn work for him for just above minimum wage. She quit a few days later whining it was too much work to pick weeds for that money, right after she practically begged for any kind of job for any kind of pay.

But it's an entirely different topic, summed up by "self centered kids growing up into self centered adults".

TheBucket

Haha.. seems I hit a nerve for all the brats aroun d here kicking and screaming because they were not getting picked.

This is some of the best feedback I've seen from an mmo. Of course I come from an older generation like DAoC and UO. Maybe the new generation needs more communication like countdown timers and daily emails.

Cogo

TheBucket wrote: »

Haha.. seems I hit a nerve for all the brats aroun d here kicking and screaming because they were not getting picked.

This is some of the best feedback I've seen from an mmo. Of course I come from an older generation like DAoC and UO. Maybe the new generation needs more communication like countdown timers and daily emails.

Its worse. Quite a few blames the game for not getting a group. A group tool that instantly puts you in a group, seams to be the only option to group for quite a lot of people.

Mablung

Cogo wrote: »

Its worse. Quite a few blames the game for not getting a group. A group tool that instantly puts you in a group, seams to be the only option to group for quite a lot of people.

How is this even relevant to the post? What you are talking about has nothing to do with the OP or context of this thread. Information posting and grouping, how do they relate?

FrauPerchta

No new bugs and I'll be happy

GreySix

Crossing my fingers and hoping they allow cooperative play in currently solo only instances.

Maybe if I wish really hard...

AngryNord

Cogo wrote: »

Its worse. Quite a few blames the game for not getting a group. A group tool that instantly puts you in a group, seams to be the only option to group for quite a lot of people.

While others would be satsified with a group tool that allowed you to find a group for say, a level 20-23 dungeon even though you're level 30. Or a group finder tool that allowed you to find a group for a certain boss fight/dolmen, no matter what level you are.

AngryNord

Mablung wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Its worse. Quite a few blames the game for not getting a group. A group tool that instantly puts you in a group, seams to be the only option to group for quite a lot of people.

How is this even relevant to the post? What you are talking about has nothing to do with the OP or context of this thread. Information posting and grouping, how do they relate?

Don't feed...

Shaun98ca2

Worstluck wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok everyone, we can confirm that we will be releasing Update 2 tomorrow starting at 8:00am EDT with the NA megaserver. We'll post the patch notes for this new patch tomorrow morning during the maintenance.

Why do you guys keep deploying untested applications?

I assume your environments look something like this:

Dev
Test
Public Test (Staging)
Production

Why do you always skip the PTS on the actual build that is pushed to Prod? The PTS has only tested 1.2.2. Why roll the dice on 1.2.3? Push these "rider" changes added in 1.2.3 to the PTS, and then push that exact build to Production.

Makes no sense to me either. I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of changes from 1.2.2 to 1.2.3 based on their recent posts. Tomorrow is going to be interesting to say the least.

I think its due to the fact that while testing is nice it never seems to fail that no matter HOW must testing you do internet "gremlins" ALWAY screw something up.

Don't believe me loot at beta reviews of PVP for this game, gold stars for everyone perfectly executed full scale battles.

Live comes out BAMN...L a ggggggg F es t. Couldn't be worse if you tried.

But testing showed it worked JUST fine. GO figure. Its actually just easier and faster to let the patch go live and fix spotted problems at that point.

Mablung

AngryNord wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Its worse. Quite a few blames the game for not getting a group. A group tool that instantly puts you in a group, seams to be the only option to group for quite a lot of people.

How is this even relevant to the post? What you are talking about has nothing to do with the OP or context of this thread. Information posting and grouping, how do they relate?

Don't feed...

You are absolutely correct. He and one other poster (who I am not allowed to name but starts with N) drive me absolutely coo coo when they post.

There...I am better.

UrQuan

kitsinni wrote: »

"Entitled" the most overused word in the last decade.

I'm entitled to use the word "entitled" as much as I want! You're not entitled to take away my entitlement to the word "entitled"!

UrQuan

Maverick827 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok everyone, we can confirm that we will be releasing Update 2 tomorrow starting at 8:00am EDT with the NA megaserver. We'll post the patch notes for this new patch tomorrow morning during the maintenance.

Why do you guys keep deploying untested applications?

I assume your environments look something like this:

Dev
Test
Public Test (Staging)
Production

Why do you always skip the PTS on the actual build that is pushed to Prod? The PTS has only tested 1.2.2. Why roll the dice on 1.2.3? Push these "rider" changes added in 1.2.3 to the PTS, and then push that exact build to Production.

They've got to have more environments than that.

At a minimum I'd expect 2 dev environments (1 for new content development and 1 for bug fixes/changes to game mechanics), and probably more than just 2 (it really depends on how many teams you have working on development - each team working on a separate piece should have their own environment).

I'd expect a minimum of 2 test environments too, so that they can test individual packages coming from the dev environments in an agile fashion without slowing the testing down with constant stopping as the testers wait for deployments.

After that there should be a single QA environment where they deploy consolidated packages of the individual packages coming from dev in order to ensure that they play nicely with each other, and that the intended deployment package (ie. the package that will become the patch) will deploy properly.

Then there's the PTS, then production.

I'd be surprised if there wasn't a production support environment that mimics the current production environment exactly as well (in fact, ideally there would be 2 PS environments - one for each mega-server so that they can duplicate the databases of the 2 mega-servers to allow proper production support).

That's the way I'd set it up anyway, and it certainly doesn't invalidate your point in any way (if anything, it reinforces it).

steveb16_ESO46

FrauPerchta wrote: »

No new bugs and I'll be happy

It'll be a first.

Razzak

Munku wrote: »

Wow. This level of negativity is exactly why they ignore this forum. Take a good look at your posts, think about what @karikin said and then reread your list again. Ironically you are proving his/her point.

Want them to come on and post in their forums? Give them reason to. Raging pushes them away and leaves this place to the mods.

We are not talking about a teenage girl (ZOS), here. We are not buddies, discussing a football match. We are their paying customer.
Maybe the reason they are so ignorant of such facts, is people like you. Because they can get away with it and still they get knights defending them.

killedbyping

No patch again ?

AngryNord

killedbyping wrote: »

No patch again ?

Huh?

ferzalrwb17_ESO

Munku wrote: »

Wow. This level of negativity is exactly why they ignore this forum. Take a good look at your posts, think about what @karikin said and then reread your list again. Ironically you are proving his/her point.

Want them to come on and post in their forums? Give them reason to. Raging pushes them away and leaves this place to the mods.

Or perhaps the negativity is proving the point that others have made...
That being ignored on their official forums makes users angry.

If you have a look at previous threads where they've responded or got involved (the very, very few) you will see, generally, more constructive feedback and better discussions. But, mostly, they ignore their user base which then gets frustrated and we get this kind of stuff. Totally understandable IMO.

(hint: watch this thread from ZOS input onwards. It should improve :P)

crislevin

nvm