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BOLT Escape is now the MOST OP ability in the game!

  • FlatLine84
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    Its funny people commenting its not op, and how NB should use teleport strike to keep up or better yet assuming everyone uses cookie cutters.

    Take it from a night blade like myself bolt escape is op, I do 1800 average burst damage in one second all mages do to avoid almost instant death is bolt escape with the stun morph.. Try catching them after that I've seen them spam it at least 10 times...


    And if you doubt my dps feel free to PM for a 1v1 I'm AD I would gladly add you to my montage video.
  • FunkyBudda
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    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    Its funny people commenting its not op, and how NB should use teleport strike to keep up or better yet assuming everyone uses cookie cutters.

    Take it from a night blade like myself bolt escape is op, I do 1800 average burst damage in one second all mages do to avoid almost instant death is bolt escape with the stun morph.. Try catching them after that I've seen them spam it at least 10 times...


    And if you doubt my dps feel free to PM for a 1v1 I'm AD I would gladly add you to my montage video.

    So your argument is once your NB lands an attack (1800 burst damage in one sec!?) all players should have zero chance to escape or live to counter? Believe me, if u are able to do that, you know what's the next class/build that's gonna get nerfed? NB.

    Edited by FunkyBudda on May 30, 2014 4:15PM
  • c0rp
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    Next time try BLOCKING instead of crying on forum....this is an L2P issue.
    /thread
    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • FlatLine84
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    Obviously missed the point, bolt esp being casted 10 times min with a stun equals 100 percent escape mech.. What other class has that? I'm sorry if you mess up you should be punished. No other class has a 100 percent esp mech no matter the sitcuation. There's a reason why mages and dk litter the leaderboards and here's a hint has nothing to do with skill... The Nerf will come sooner or later
    Edited by FlatLine84 on May 30, 2014 4:18PM
  • bg22
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    c0rp wrote: »
    Next time try BLOCKING instead of crying on forum....this is an L2P issue.
    /thread

    Yea man, block that bolt escape!


    Edited by bg22 on May 30, 2014 4:23PM
  • Erock25
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    There after a few days of watching more and more Sorcs ABUSE this skill I can say without question that this ability is now the most over powered ability in game. FIX this DEVS!!!!
    I'm sick of fighting an Sorc knowing that they are about to stun and ABUSE bolt escape to totally waste my time.
    If hes winning oh sure I'm screwed... but If I manage to get the upperhand WHOOOOOSH! And theirs nothing I can do about it... nothing anyone near me can do about it... OP!

    I guess your topic three days ago wasn't good enough? Just have to keep spamming forums.

    It will be a major mistake if they nerf BE. The skill is not overpowered because it is only a defensive/escape tool. So what that I can run away if I reserve half of my magicka for that exact purpose? People who do not play Sorc do not realize how many times we do indeed get killed even with BE on our bar. You're really getting caught up in the 'MUST KILL' tunnel vision and getting annoyed that someone you feel you could kill, got away. But you aren't realizing that those BE using Sorc are not helping their team at all by reserving magicka to abandon them.

    Frankly, the skill is just damn cool and it would be a shame to nerf a cool utility spell because people get panties in a bind when they don't get their kill.
    You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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  • NordJitsu
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    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    Its funny people commenting its not op, and how NB should use teleport strike to keep up or better yet assuming everyone uses cookie cutters.

    Take it from a night blade like myself bolt escape is op, I do 1800 average burst damage in one second all mages do to avoid almost instant death is bolt escape with the stun morph.. Try catching them after that I've seen them spam it at least 10 times...


    And if you doubt my dps feel free to PM for a 1v1 I'm AD I would gladly add you to my montage video.

    @FlatLine84‌

    This is so hilarious its almost like an Onion Article.

    "Night Blade Is Angry that He Can't 1-Shot Every Player in the Game"

    A local Night Blade has found a drastic problem with game balance in the Elder Scrolls Online. Specifically, the issue is with the ability Bolt Escape.

    "Its just not fair I tell you. I can hit players for 80-100% of their health in a single second. Most of the time things just melt in front of me and it doesn't take much effort, but lately I've had an issue where Sorcerer's are able to get away from me."

    The Night Blade went on to explain that allowing other players to counter his absurdly high burst was ruining the experience of the game for him.

    "I mean, if this Bolt Escape crap continues I've only got two options: accept the fact that I can't kill everything I see in a matter of seconds or adapt my build to be able to chase them. But if I change my build to be better at chasing, I won't be able to 1-shot things as often. Its not fair I tell you. Next thing you know they'll give Sorcerer's tools to actually kill ME!"

    Thankfully, there's no sign of that in the near future. Zenimax Online Studios, creator and developer of the Elder Scrolls Online, responded to our request for an interview with the following prepared statement:

    "We understand how frustrating it can be for players to not be able to kill everything they see in 1-shot but we feel its only fair to give all classes a chance to live in PvP, even if they aren't able to kill things. We will not be buffing the Sorcerer's damage or survivability in combat anytime soon, but we think its funny to give them the ability to at least run away. That way we can laugh at them while they run in terror from the kings of our game, the Dragon Knights.

    That said, we will be buffing the Night Blade soon, to reduce the Sorcerer's escape rate against this class as well."
    @NordJitsu - Guild Master (Main Character = Hlaalu Idas)
    GREAT HOUSE HLAALU
  • Huckdabuck
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    NordJitsu wrote: »
    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    Its funny people commenting its not op, and how NB should use teleport strike to keep up or better yet assuming everyone uses cookie cutters.

    Take it from a night blade like myself bolt escape is op, I do 1800 average burst damage in one second all mages do to avoid almost instant death is bolt escape with the stun morph.. Try catching them after that I've seen them spam it at least 10 times...


    And if you doubt my dps feel free to PM for a 1v1 I'm AD I would gladly add you to my montage video.

    @FlatLine84‌

    This is so hilarious its almost like an Onion Article.

    "Night Blade Is Angry that He Can't 1-Shot Every Player in the Game"

    A local Night Blade has found a drastic problem with game balance in the Elder Scrolls Online. Specifically, the issue is with the ability Bolt Escape.

    "Its just not fair I tell you. I can hit players for 80-100% of their health in a single second. Most of the time things just melt in front of me and it doesn't take much effort, but lately I've had an issue where Sorcerer's are able to get away from me."

    The Night Blade went on to explain that allowing other players to counter his absurdly high burst was ruining the experience of the game for him.

    "I mean, if this Bolt Escape crap continues I've only got two options: accept the fact that I can't kill everything I see in a matter of seconds or adapt my build to be able to chase them. But if I change my build to be better at chasing, I won't be able to 1-shot things as often. Its not fair I tell you. Next thing you know they'll give Sorcerer's tools to actually kill ME!"

    Thankfully, there's no sign of that in the near future. Zenimax Online Studios, creator and developer of the Elder Scrolls Online, responded to our request for an interview with the following prepared statement:

    "We understand how frustrating it can be for players to not be able to kill everything they see in 1-shot but we feel its only fair to give all classes a chance to live in PvP, even if they aren't able to kill things. We will not be buffing the Sorcerer's damage or survivability in combat anytime soon, but we think its funny to give them the ability to at least run away. That way we can laugh at them while they run in terror from the kings of our game, the Dragon Knights.

    That said, we will be buffing the Night Blade soon, to reduce the Sorcerer's escape rate against this class as well."

    I just pissed myself laughing.
    Texashighelf - VR16 Sorcerer EP NA - FILTHY BARBARIAN
    Texasimperial - VR16 Dragonknight EP NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas'Imperial - VR16 Dragonknight DC NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas-Imperial - VR16 Templar DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Highelf - VR16 Sorcerer DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Imperial - VR16 Nightblade DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    It's a very grey area.
  • bg22
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    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    I fought a sorc yesterday for over 7 minutes. 8 stamina potions later, as I had to chase him down every time I "beat" him, which was roughly 6 times, then finally the 7th fight he got lucky and beat me.

    So, my 6 "victories" = 0 AP earned, his 1 victory and 6 "losses" = 400~ AP earned.

    Seems balanced to me.

    If by balanced I mean complete ridiculousness.

    So that guy was the 1 out of 100 that you can't beat and caused all your nerd rage against sorcs huh?

    Feminine quality #1 - you're a sorc
    Feminine quality #2 - you're literally stalking me on the forums and it's honestly weird.
  • FlatLine84
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    NordJitsu wrote: »
    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    Its funny people commenting its not op, and how NB should use teleport strike to keep up or better yet assuming everyone uses cookie cutters.

    Take it from a night blade like myself bolt escape is op, I do 1800 average burst damage in one second all mages do to avoid almost instant death is bolt escape with the stun morph.. Try catching them after that I've seen them spam it at least 10 times...


    And if you doubt my dps feel free to PM for a 1v1 I'm AD I would gladly add you to my montage video.

    @FlatLine84‌

    This is so hilarious its almost like an Onion Article.

    "Night Blade Is Angry that He Can't 1-Shot Every Player in the Game"

    A local Night Blade has found a drastic problem with game balance in the Elder Scrolls Online. Specifically, the issue is with the ability Bolt Escape.

    "Its just not fair I tell you. I can hit players for 80-100% of their health in a single second. Most of the time things just melt in front of me and it doesn't take much effort, but lately I've had an issue where Sorcerer's are able to get away from me."

    The Night Blade went on to explain that allowing other players to counter his absurdly high burst was ruining the experience of the game for him.

    "I mean, if this Bolt Escape crap continues I've only got two options: accept the fact that I can't kill everything I see in a matter of seconds or adapt my build to be able to chase them. But if I change my build to be better at chasing, I won't be able to 1-shot things as often. Its not fair I tell you. Next thing you know they'll give Sorcerer's tools to actually kill ME!"

    Thankfully, there's no sign of that in the near future. Zenimax Online Studios, creator and developer of the Elder Scrolls Online, responded to our request for an interview with the following prepared statement:

    "We understand how frustrating it can be for players to not be able to kill everything they see in 1-shot but we feel its only fair to give all classes a chance to live in PvP, even if they aren't able to kill things. We will not be buffing the Sorcerer's damage or survivability in combat anytime soon, but we think its funny to give them the ability to at least run away. That way we can laugh at them while they run in terror from the kings of our game, the Dragon Knights.

    That said, we will be buffing the Night Blade soon, to reduce the Sorcerer's escape rate against this class as well."

    That's cute you made a funny haha. I take it your a socr, there's no need to spin the truth the Nerf is inbound hope your ready to react.
  • FunkyBudda
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    NordJitsu wrote: »
    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    Its funny people commenting its not op, and how NB should use teleport strike to keep up or better yet assuming everyone uses cookie cutters.

    Take it from a night blade like myself bolt escape is op, I do 1800 average burst damage in one second all mages do to avoid almost instant death is bolt escape with the stun morph.. Try catching them after that I've seen them spam it at least 10 times...


    And if you doubt my dps feel free to PM for a 1v1 I'm AD I would gladly add you to my montage video.

    @FlatLine84‌

    This is so hilarious its almost like an Onion Article.

    "Night Blade Is Angry that He Can't 1-Shot Every Player in the Game"

    A local Night Blade has found a drastic problem with game balance in the Elder Scrolls Online. Specifically, the issue is with the ability Bolt Escape.

    "Its just not fair I tell you. I can hit players for 80-100% of their health in a single second. Most of the time things just melt in front of me and it doesn't take much effort, but lately I've had an issue where Sorcerer's are able to get away from me."

    The Night Blade went on to explain that allowing other players to counter his absurdly high burst was ruining the experience of the game for him.

    "I mean, if this Bolt Escape crap continues I've only got two options: accept the fact that I can't kill everything I see in a matter of seconds or adapt my build to be able to chase them. But if I change my build to be better at chasing, I won't be able to 1-shot things as often. Its not fair I tell you. Next thing you know they'll give Sorcerer's tools to actually kill ME!"

    Thankfully, there's no sign of that in the near future. Zenimax Online Studios, creator and developer of the Elder Scrolls Online, responded to our request for an interview with the following prepared statement:

    "We understand how frustrating it can be for players to not be able to kill everything they see in 1-shot but we feel its only fair to give all classes a chance to live in PvP, even if they aren't able to kill things. We will not be buffing the Sorcerer's damage or survivability in combat anytime soon, but we think its funny to give them the ability to at least run away. That way we can laugh at them while they run in terror from the kings of our game, the Dragon Knights.

    That said, we will be buffing the Night Blade soon, to reduce the Sorcerer's escape rate against this class as well."

    ROFL, awesome job man, freaking hilarious.

  • Huckdabuck
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    bg22 wrote: »
    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    I fought a sorc yesterday for over 7 minutes. 8 stamina potions later, as I had to chase him down every time I "beat" him, which was roughly 6 times, then finally the 7th fight he got lucky and beat me.

    So, my 6 "victories" = 0 AP earned, his 1 victory and 6 "losses" = 400~ AP earned.

    Seems balanced to me.

    If by balanced I mean complete ridiculousness.

    So that guy was the 1 out of 100 that you can't beat and caused all your nerd rage against sorcs huh?

    Feminine quality #1 - you're a sorc
    Feminine quality #2 - you're literally stalking me on the forums and it's honestly weird.

    Manly quality #1 - I'm also a NB, DK, and Templar
    Manly quality #2 - It's not stalking rather it's ensuring that others (who like you don't have critical thinking skills or want an instant I win button) don't take your flawed OP as gospel and continue to spread misinformation about classes to where it becomes a distorted truth.
    Manly quality #3 - I don't need to keep referring to being a man (or not being feminine) constantly to keep up appearances when someone is questioning me or my OP.

    Less QQ....MOAR L2PvP.
    Texashighelf - VR16 Sorcerer EP NA - FILTHY BARBARIAN
    Texasimperial - VR16 Dragonknight EP NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas'Imperial - VR16 Dragonknight DC NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas-Imperial - VR16 Templar DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Highelf - VR16 Sorcerer DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Imperial - VR16 Nightblade DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    It's a very grey area.
  • Erock25
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    bg22 wrote: »
    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    I fought a sorc yesterday for over 7 minutes. 8 stamina potions later, as I had to chase him down every time I "beat" him, which was roughly 6 times, then finally the 7th fight he got lucky and beat me.

    So, my 6 "victories" = 0 AP earned, his 1 victory and 6 "losses" = 400~ AP earned.

    Seems balanced to me.

    If by balanced I mean complete ridiculousness.

    So that guy was the 1 out of 100 that you can't beat and caused all your nerd rage against sorcs huh?

    Feminine quality #1 - you're a sorc
    Feminine quality #2 - you're literally stalking me on the forums and it's honestly weird.

    You claimed you win 99% of fights and yet still were crying nerf and you expect everyone to forget?
    You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
    You received 500 LOLs. It ain't no fluke, you post great stuff and we're lucky to have you here. +50 points
  • bg22
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    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    I fought a sorc yesterday for over 7 minutes. 8 stamina potions later, as I had to chase him down every time I "beat" him, which was roughly 6 times, then finally the 7th fight he got lucky and beat me.

    So, my 6 "victories" = 0 AP earned, his 1 victory and 6 "losses" = 400~ AP earned.

    Seems balanced to me.

    If by balanced I mean complete ridiculousness.

    So that guy was the 1 out of 100 that you can't beat and caused all your nerd rage against sorcs huh?

    Feminine quality #1 - you're a sorc
    Feminine quality #2 - you're literally stalking me on the forums and it's honestly weird.

    Manly quality #1 - I'm also a NB, DK, and Templar
    Manly quality #2 - It's not stalking rather it's ensuring that others (who like you don't have critical thinking skills or want an instant I win button) don't take your flawed OP as gospel and continue to spread misinformation about classes to where it becomes a distorted truth.
    Manly quality #3 - I don't need to keep referring to being a man (or not being feminine) constantly to keep up appearances when someone is questioning me or my OP.

    Less QQ....MOAR L2PvP.

    I'm reporting it.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]
    Edited by ZOS_SilviaS on May 30, 2014 9:55PM
  • Erock25
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    FlatLine84 wrote: »

    That's cute you made a funny haha. I take it your a socr, there's no need to spin the truth the Nerf is inbound hope your ready to react.

    Step 1 - make countless nerf BE threads

    Step 2 - comment in every BE thread possible trying to convince the devs it is OP

    Step 3 - when you realize that a lot of people disagree with you, start claiming the nerf is inevitable as a last ditch effort to convince people it is OP
    You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
    You received 500 LOLs. It ain't no fluke, you post great stuff and we're lucky to have you here. +50 points
  • Necronomicon
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    Nerf it like they did to Biting jabs, add a 1.2 second delay maybe a 2 second delay, and a bit more mana cost. Case closed.
  • FlatLine84
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    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    I fought a sorc yesterday for over 7 minutes. 8 stamina potions later, as I had to chase him down every time I "beat" him, which was roughly 6 times, then finally the 7th fight he got lucky and beat me.

    So, my 6 "victories" = 0 AP earned, his 1 victory and 6 "losses" = 400~ AP earned.

    Seems balanced to me.

    If by balanced I mean complete ridiculousness.

    So that guy was the 1 out of 100 that you can't beat and caused all your nerd rage against sorcs huh?

    Feminine quality #1 - you're a sorc
    Feminine quality #2 - you're literally stalking me on the forums and it's honestly weird.

    Manly quality #1 - I'm also a NB, DK, and Templar
    Manly quality #2 - It's not stalking rather it's ensuring that others (who like you don't have critical thinking skills or want an instant I win button) don't take your flawed OP as gospel and continue to spread misinformation about classes to where it becomes a distorted truth.
    Manly quality #3 - I don't need to keep referring to being a man (or not being feminine) constantly to keep up appearances when someone is questioning me or my OP.

    Less QQ....MOAR L2PvP.


    I'm willing to bet everyone on here that is defending bolt esp has a sorc.. Look mist form wasn't even as bad as bolt esp and the hammer was dropped. Second when you 100 percent of the time decide the outcome of the battle because of one move its not skill its an exploit. No critical thinking required.
    Edited by FlatLine84 on May 30, 2014 4:56PM
  • bg22
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    FlatLine84 wrote: »

    That's cute you made a funny haha. I take it your a socr, there's no need to spin the truth the Nerf is inbound hope your ready to react.

    Step 1 - make countless nerf BE threads

    Step 2 - comment in every BE thread possible trying to convince the devs it is OP

    Step 3 - when you realize that a lot of people disagree with you, start claiming the nerf is inevitable as a last ditch effort to convince people it is OP

    Literally the only ppl that don't think bolt is OP, are sorcs. So when you see "all these ppl disagreeing with you", you're mistaken. Those are sorcs desperately trying to hang onto an OP ability.

    Sound familiar... I recall "all these ppl" saying talons wasn't OP. Oh wait... Those were all DKs. Weird.

    What ever happened to talons anyway?
  • Huckdabuck
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    And I'm reporting it. [/quote]

    Now I'm scared!

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]
    Edited by ZOS_SilviaS on May 30, 2014 10:00PM
    Texashighelf - VR16 Sorcerer EP NA - FILTHY BARBARIAN
    Texasimperial - VR16 Dragonknight EP NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas'Imperial - VR16 Dragonknight DC NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas-Imperial - VR16 Templar DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Highelf - VR16 Sorcerer DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Imperial - VR16 Nightblade DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    It's a very grey area.
  • Erock25
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    bg22 wrote: »

    What ever happened to talons anyway?

    It was nerfed in a poor way. All that was needed was root immunity after a dodge roll. I'm trying to prevent a similar an unnecessary mistake.
    You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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  • Reykice
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    youtube.com/watch?v=5kfzJ1lNlU4

    Learn. Adapt. Mommy is not here to make the bad pixel enemy go away so stop crying and make sure you don`t wet the bed.
  • Huckdabuck
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    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    I'm willing to bet everyone on here that is defending bolt esp has a sorc.. Look mist form wasn't even as bad as bolt esp and the hammer was dropped. Second when you 100 percent of the time decide the outcome of the battle because of one move its not skill its an exploit. No critical thinking required.

    And I'm willing to bet that everyone on here that is QQ'n bolt escape isn't a sorc....I don't even have it slotted due to the dps loss....so I'm not being a homer here.....I'm being a realist. There are far better skills at a sorcs disposal which do much more damage/CC/stun/mez. The reality of the matter is people who are complaining are doing so because they "feel" that they were "entitled" to a kill and that people are robbing them of the AP or out of blind stupidity when it comes to what a class is built for/around.

    To the mist form complaint....I'm a vamp sorc on my main and to tell you the truth I didn't see the OP'ness of that personally (and I never used it either) but many did so Zenimax felt it was not intended to be a signature ability like BE is and nerfed. Hence they went and made it more comparable to boundless storm.

    Side note : If you see any sorc "exploiting" BE and instantly winning 100% of their fights then I will gladly say it needs a nerf since that means they are killing players by running away in the opposite direction and that is just way over the top OP. I'm a horrible PvP'er but I still manage to kill sorcs who BE on my nonsorc toons. Quit exaggerating it only makes people smell desperation or straight ignorance/arrogance.
    Texashighelf - VR16 Sorcerer EP NA - FILTHY BARBARIAN
    Texasimperial - VR16 Dragonknight EP NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas'Imperial - VR16 Dragonknight DC NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas-Imperial - VR16 Templar DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Highelf - VR16 Sorcerer DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Imperial - VR16 Nightblade DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    It's a very grey area.
  • FlatLine84
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    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    I'm willing to bet everyone on here that is defending bolt esp has a sorc.. Look mist form wasn't even as bad as bolt esp and the hammer was dropped. Second when you 100 percent of the time decide the outcome of the battle because of one move its not skill its an exploit. No critical thinking required.

    And I'm willing to bet that everyone on here that is QQ'n bolt escape isn't a sorc....I don't even have it slotted due to the dps loss....so I'm not being a homer here.....I'm being a realist. There are far better skills at a sorcs disposal which do much more damage/CC/stun/mez. The reality of the matter is people who are complaining are doing so because they "feel" that they were "entitled" to a kill and that people are robbing them of the AP or out of blind stupidity when it comes to what a class is built for/around.

    To the mist form complaint....I'm a vamp sorc on my main and to tell you the truth I didn't see the OP'ness of that personally (and I never used it either) but many did so Zenimax felt it was not intended to be a signature ability like BE is and nerfed. Hence they went and made it more comparable to boundless storm.

    Side note : If you see any sorc "exploiting" BE and instantly winning 100% of their fights then I will gladly say it needs a nerf since that means they are killing players by running away in the opposite direction and that is just way over the top OP. I'm a horrible PvP'er but I still manage to kill sorcs who BE on my nonsorc toons. Quit exaggerating it only makes people smell desperation or straight ignorance/arrogance.


    If you never used mist form or BE why are you commenting on it? And I strongly believe if you killed a sorc with BE they need to uninatall the game esp from a sub par pvper like you claim to be. Its an expolit, no class should be given a get out of jail free card 100 percent of the time
    Edited by FlatLine84 on May 30, 2014 5:55PM
  • crislevin
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    bg22 wrote: »
    I fought a sorc yesterday for over 7 minutes. 8 stamina potions later, as I had to chase him down every time I "beat" him, which was roughly 6 times, then finally the 7th fight he got lucky and beat me.

    So, my 6 "victories" = 0 AP earned, his 1 victory and 6 "losses" = 400~ AP earned.

    Seems balanced to me.

    If by balanced I mean complete ridiculousness.

    So you have overwhelming power in 6 out of 7 encounters, I wonder exactly which class should be nerfed in your situation.
  • FlatLine84
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    crislevin wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    I fought a sorc yesterday for over 7 minutes. 8 stamina potions later, as I had to chase him down every time I "beat" him, which was roughly 6 times, then finally the 7th fight he got lucky and beat me.

    So, my 6 "victories" = 0 AP earned, his 1 victory and 6 "losses" = 400~ AP earned.

    Seems balanced to me.

    If by balanced I mean complete ridiculousness.

    So you have overwhelming power in 6 out of 7 encounters, I wonder exactly which class should be nerfed in your situation.

    Overwhelming power? How about he's a more skillful player. Fact is 6 out of 7 fights the mage escaped flawlessly from getting owned, and on the 7th hudini trick the mage killed him
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    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    crislevin wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    I fought a sorc yesterday for over 7 minutes. 8 stamina potions later, as I had to chase him down every time I "beat" him, which was roughly 6 times, then finally the 7th fight he got lucky and beat me.

    So, my 6 "victories" = 0 AP earned, his 1 victory and 6 "losses" = 400~ AP earned.

    Seems balanced to me.

    If by balanced I mean complete ridiculousness.

    So you have overwhelming power in 6 out of 7 encounters, I wonder exactly which class should be nerfed in your situation.

    Overwhelming power? How about he's a more skillful player. Fact is 6 out of 7 fights the mage escaped flawlessly from getting owned, and on the 7th hudini trick the mage killed him

    Right, except skilled player can get down a sorc. And he can't.

    And why ignore the very fact that his class is op?
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    I fought a sorc yesterday for over 7 minutes. 8 stamina potions later, as I had to chase him down every time I "beat" him, which was roughly 6 times, then finally the 7th fight he got lucky and beat me.

    So, my 6 "victories" = 0 AP earned, his 1 victory and 6 "losses" = 400~ AP earned.

    Seems balanced to me.

    If by balanced I mean complete ridiculousness.

    So that guy was the 1 out of 100 that you can't beat and caused all your nerd rage against sorcs huh?

    Feminine quality #1 - you're a sorc
    Feminine quality #2 - you're literally stalking me on the forums and it's honestly weird.

    You claimed you win 99% of fights and yet still were crying nerf and you expect everyone to forget?

    Nope, not at all. And I'm not saying it's untrue now. That was the only time I lost to a sorc in a 1v1 yesterday. And being that he literally blinked away 6 times after being stomped makes bolt laughable.

    Almost as laughable as all these sorcs in here screaming "It's fine! Dear baby Jesus, it's fine! It's not even that powerful! Please don't nerf it! Don't... Please... Please? I don't want to accept my loses.. Please? Mommy?"

  • FlatLine84
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    crislevin wrote: »
    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    crislevin wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    I fought a sorc yesterday for over 7 minutes. 8 stamina potions later, as I had to chase him down every time I "beat" him, which was roughly 6 times, then finally the 7th fight he got lucky and beat me.

    So, my 6 "victories" = 0 AP earned, his 1 victory and 6 "losses" = 400~ AP earned.

    Seems balanced to me.

    If by balanced I mean complete ridiculousness.

    So you have overwhelming power in 6 out of 7 encounters, I wonder exactly which class should be nerfed in your situation.

    Overwhelming power? How about he's a more skillful player. Fact is 6 out of 7 fights the mage escaped flawlessly from getting owned, and on the 7th hudini trick the mage killed him

    Right, except skilled player can get down a sorc. And he can't.

    And why ignore the very fact that his class is op?

    Lol please if you kill a mage its because he didn't morph to stun and he has problems jaming on one button. Plus NB are the most broken class in the game.
    Edited by FlatLine84 on May 30, 2014 6:21PM
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    FlatLine84 wrote: »


    If you never used mist form or BE why are you commenting on it? And I strongly believe if you killed a sorc with BE they need to uninatall the game esp from a sub par pvper like you claim to be. Its an expolit, no class should be given a get out of jail free card 100 percent of the time

    Have you used Bolt Escape? I do not think I'm a slouch in PVP and do quite well, but still have been caught countless times while trying to Bolt Escape away for my life. Ranged CC's happen, not enough magicka happens, another Sorc chasing you down happens, deciding you help your group the most by standing and fighting happens.
    bg22 wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »

    You claimed you win 99% of fights and yet still were crying nerf and you expect everyone to forget?

    Nope, not at all. And I'm not saying it's untrue now. That was the only time I lost to a sorc in a 1v1 yesterday. And being that he literally blinked away 6 times after being stomped makes bolt laughable.

    Almost as laughable as all these sorcs in here screaming "It's fine! Dear baby Jesus, it's fine! It's not even that powerful! Please don't nerf it! Don't... Please... Please? I don't want to accept my loses.. Please? Mommy?"


    So your argument is still that you beat Sorc 99 times out of 100, but because that 1 time he was able to BE away, we must nerf BE? I feel I don't even need to post in defense of BE with people like you posting to nerf it.
    You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
    You received 500 LOLs. It ain't no fluke, you post great stuff and we're lucky to have you here. +50 points
  • crislevin
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    bg22 wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    I fought a sorc yesterday for over 7 minutes. 8 stamina potions later, as I had to chase him down every time I "beat" him, which was roughly 6 times, then finally the 7th fight he got lucky and beat me.

    So, my 6 "victories" = 0 AP earned, his 1 victory and 6 "losses" = 400~ AP earned.

    Seems balanced to me.

    If by balanced I mean complete ridiculousness.

    So that guy was the 1 out of 100 that you can't beat and caused all your nerd rage against sorcs huh?

    Feminine quality #1 - you're a sorc
    Feminine quality #2 - you're literally stalking me on the forums and it's honestly weird.

    You claimed you win 99% of fights and yet still were crying nerf and you expect everyone to forget?

    Nope, not at all. And I'm not saying it's untrue now. That was the only time I lost to a sorc in a 1v1 yesterday. And being that he literally blinked away 6 times after being stomped makes bolt laughable.

    Almost as laughable as all these sorcs in here screaming "It's fine! Dear baby Jesus, it's fine! It's not even that powerful! Please don't nerf it! Don't... Please... Please? I don't want to accept my loses.. Please? Mommy?"

    So your op class is well deserved and other shouldn't even have an escape ability, how eccentric.
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