do you agree on the whole english german and france thing mixing them all together
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elsom23✭✭AlexDougherty wrote: »Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »eso is an american made game and should be english speaking only. we played your asain games and other 3rd, 4th, and even 11nth world country games and had to put up with your not knowing english but this is not your countries game so why should we be forced to speak your launguage? you came to our game so its only fair you speak our launguage.
So...so...so many spelling and grammar mistakes, I don't know where to start.
Well his first error is not capitalising "American", so I would start there, then go on to the misspellings, then the bad grammar, then the wrongheadedness.
But that's just my opinion.
usa is made up by *** and after more ***
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Tannakaobi✭✭✭✭✭AlexDougherty wrote: »martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »AlexDougherty wrote: »Hmm, i dont have seen many insults, mostly everyone agrees to talk english. I still prefer a mixed server, i like to play with guys from spain, norway, denmark, UK, france, germany etc !
Lol, even the English don't expect everyone to speak English, I don't. As for everyone playing nicely, it depends who's playing.
Some people stir up racist just by walking into the room, other do their best to calm everything down. (Note I live near Liverpool, where "calm down" is fighting talk.)(No, I'm not joking, just in case you've never visited Liverpool).
Add to the mix nearly two thousand years of insults, wars, politics and worse actually visiting other countries (you either understand that one or not, won't explain it). And European tempers can be lost very easily.
All you can do is try to keep the peace, and hope people get it out of their system.
Who are you telling to calm down!!!!!!!!
I'm from Manchester so I know all about the rivalries
and we all know Liverpool shouldn't really class itself as English 
Haha!! only joking
Or Manchester for that matter! bunch of scallywags
muhahaTannakaobi wrote: »
They don't call it Madchester for no reason! But the point is your all a bunch of northern monkeys, enjoy your draught beer.
Op, I think you are seeing things that are not even there. Calm dow.... er I mean relax.
Wish I had thought of replies like these, the only funny ones I could think of definately breached the Forum rules. Don't think Zos would have seen the humour, just the pseudo-antagonism.
I was slightly worried that someone that is not to know would see racism where there was none.
Although we are only joking the underlining problem is that even in a little place like England there is a lot of animosity that stems from where people come from. What chance does a European realm have really?
but it is made all the worse by English speaking people thinking they somehow own the realm, they expect everyone to speak like them, when they can in general not speak any other language themselves. It's hypercritical in the extreme. As an English person, it makes me look bad.
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Indeed, which is why I keep say we Brits don't expect anyone to speak English, or at least I don't.Tannakaobi wrote: »AlexDougherty wrote: »martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »AlexDougherty wrote: »Hmm, i dont have seen many insults, mostly everyone agrees to talk english. I still prefer a mixed server, i like to play with guys from spain, norway, denmark, UK, france, germany etc !
Lol, even the English don't expect everyone to speak English, I don't. As for everyone playing nicely, it depends who's playing.
Some people stir up racist just by walking into the room, other do their best to calm everything down. (Note I live near Liverpool, where "calm down" is fighting talk.)(No, I'm not joking, just in case you've never visited Liverpool).
Add to the mix nearly two thousand years of insults, wars, politics and worse actually visiting other countries (you either understand that one or not, won't explain it). And European tempers can be lost very easily.
All you can do is try to keep the peace, and hope people get it out of their system.
Who are you telling to calm down!!!!!!!!
I'm from Manchester so I know all about the rivalries and we all know Liverpool shouldn't really class itself as English
Haha!! only joking
Or Manchester for that matter! bunch of scallywags
muhahaTannakaobi wrote: »
They don't call it Madchester for no reason! But the point is your all a bunch of northern monkeys, enjoy your draught beer.
Op, I think you are seeing things that are not even there. Calm dow.... er I mean relax.
Wish I had thought of replies like these, the only funny ones I could think of definately breached the Forum rules. Don't think Zos would have seen the humour, just the pseudo-antagonism.
I was slightly worried that someone that is not to know would see racism where there was none.
Although we are only joking the underlining problem is that even in a little place like England there is a lot of animosity that stems from where people come from. What chance does a European realm have really?
but it is made all the worse by English speaking people thinking they somehow own the realm, they expect everyone to speak like them, when they can in general not speak any other language themselves. It's hypercritical in the extreme. As an English person, it makes me look bad.
As for the rivalies within England, well some take them seriously, some don't. I personally don't, which is why I didn't take umbrage at the quip about Liverpool.
People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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@doggie What the hell are you smoking?The problem is that the population in Germany, France, Italy and Spain dosen't learn English at school, or atleast didn't in the past.
Let me educate you, since i was born in Germany and spent the first 30 years of my life there.
- Everyone(!), starting in the early '60s, has to learn English in school. It is mandatory!
- Anyone(!) who moves on to highschool has to pick a 2nd language (of your choice)
That's a minimum of 3 languages (if you count native German) for most of the people 55 or younger. They might not be fluent in all of them but at least they had several years of exposure to those languages in school.
;-)
Mm, the problem is, if you don't use it, you lose it. When I was a kid, it was mandatory to take four years of French - in grade school, from 4-8. No requirements for high school (9-13 at the time). That changed around 1987 or 88, not long after I left, anyway.
The problem is, I've very rarely had to use my French, except for a decade or so ago because of business trips to Quebec; fortunately, there would be a Francophone along, so mostly I was able to get away with just ordering coffee. I can do that.
Also, the French I learned would be of little help on the EU server, because I learned Quebec French.
As far as rivalries go, has anyone ever heard traditional Canadian humour? It mostly involves regions picking on other regions (within the country) over cultural differences. Check out "The Toronto Song", usually misattributed to the Arrogant Worms (but they're from Toronto; it's more likely to be Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie, or possibly Captain Tractor, from Edmonton.)
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Why?
Soon as people find out Im American all hell breaks loose.
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So does the EU server zone chat sound like this board's comments? If so then yeah, I agree something should be done about that. All joking aside, ZoS should make it more obvious that you can have language specific zone chats then just stumbling across it after clicking on the chat tab.
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OP obviously has an axe to grind and I have my suspicions about the region of the EU they are from.... anyways as a long time EvE player seeing other languages other than my native tongue does scare me at all (not so in EvE though and for entirely different reasons ) The only negative experience in ESO is those that make it negative.0 -
Stratti✭✭✭✭✭No problem with mixing them together English is dominant
Few facts
Anti semitism is illegal in German and serious punishments are involved
France is a liberal country
England is a lot more liberal than the dominant country in this game
If I had to give an opinion as to where the racism would likely come from it would be USA and a specific age bracket of 14-20 .
It's just an opinion of mine that I have formed after observing the behaviour of so many of these people over the years not meant as a personal attack on any one
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I just prefer to avoid American hating. Seems people hate on me because of stupid.0 -
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I'm afraid I have no idea what you mean. A little help?
Jefferson.
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Caduryn✭✭✭Want only english in chat? join /enzone !
There is a reason we got /zone, /enzone, /dezone and /frzone.
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I'm afraid I have no idea what you mean. A little help?
Jefferson.
/political agenda off
@Rosveen - had to go look it up. I believe this refers to a secessionist movement going on in Northern California right now.
As for Puerto Rico, my X is Puerto Rican, visited their family on the island a few years back. The subject of statehood or declaring independence came up. Seems the people of the Puerto Rico are still split on issue.The Sidekick Order0 -
ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »No problem with mixing them together English is dominant
Few facts
Anti semitism is illegal in German and serious punishments are involved
France is a liberal country
England is a lot more liberal than the dominant country in this game
If I had to give an opinion as to where the racism would likely come from it would be USA and a specific age bracket of 14-20 .
It's just an opinion of mine that I have formed after observing the behaviour of so many of these people over the years not meant as a personal attack on any one
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I believe they are talking about the EU server so I highly doubt US players are playing on that server. And as for USA players spouting racist comments in zone chat, never have i seen that in any zone through out the NA server the 2 months this game has been out.And the world comes to a close once again...0 -
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I'm afraid I have no idea what you mean. A little help?
Jefferson.
/political agenda off
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LordEcks✭✭✭Didnt read all the posts.. too lazy.
I personally have no problem with the other than English speaking players but...
Why are the server messages broadcasted three times ?
I would imagine they have different localized clients for those people playing in German and French... wouldn't it make more sense to have one broadcast message that was displayed differently per client?
They did this in Final Fantasy XI (as there were no seperated servers. Japanese, English, and even German speaking players all played together). If you played on the English client you saw server messages in English, if you didnt .. it was displayed in whatever clients language you played on.
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Kingslayer✭✭✭AlexDougherty wrote: »Hmm, i dont have seen many insults, mostly everyone agrees to talk english. I still prefer a mixed server, i like to play with guys from spain, norway, denmark, UK, france, germany etc !
Lol, even the English don't expect everyone to speak English, I don't. As for everyone playing nicely, it depends who's playing.
Some people stir up racist just by walking into the room, other do their best to calm everything down. (Note I live near Liverpool, where "calm down" is fighting talk.)(No, I'm not joking, just in case you've never visited Liverpool).
Add to the mix nearly two thousand years of insults, wars, politics and worse actually visiting other countries (you either understand that one or not, won't explain it). And European tempers can be lost very easily.
All you can do is try to keep the peace, and hope people get it out of their system.
Who are you telling to calm down!!!!!!!!
I'm from Manchester so I know all about the rivalries and we all know Liverpool shouldn't really class itself as English
Haha!! only joking
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I'm afraid I have no idea what you mean. A little help?
Jefferson.
/political agenda off
@Rosveen - had to go look it up. I believe this refers to a secessionist movement going on in Northern California right now.
As for Puerto Rico, my X is Puerto Rican, visited their family on the island a few years back. The subject of statehood or declaring independence came up. Seems the people of the Puerto Rico are still split on issue.
Rural area sick of being mistreated by big city areas that dont represent our values and stuff etc.0 -
AvalonRanger✭✭✭✭✭I'm neither Europe and English country.I'm japanese.
But,english is most familiar second language for me.
(hollywood movie,computer graphics technical book,
foreign game software...etc)
So,I choosed North American server.
>>do you agree on the whole english german and france thing
mixing them all together
Yes,I hope so. I want to play with every country players.
But,there is one problem. My second language is only english.
I can't read german and french at all...damn it !
I like german language pronunciation. Once,I saw "nereid" who speak
german language in North American server. I think,that pronunciation fits for
fantasy world. (Don't think deeply,Just my feeling.)
By the way.....
When I'm traveling through the Tamriel.I found a lot of japan taste object.
Why did developer put so many japan souvenir on the Tamriel map ?
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BrassRazoo✭✭✭✭✭This is the same with the NA server.
Try and having an Aussie, a Pom, A Kiwi a Yank and a Canadian in the same room, that can be a recipe for disaster.
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Thunderknuckles✭✭✭✭Like most folks here, I've been playing since release and have never even once seen any kind of national intolerance in /zone. God awful crude and vile speech? Ohhhhh yeah, but not a lick of anti-nationality stuff. I play the NA server.0 -
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