do you agree on the whole english german and france thing mixing them all together
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@doggie What the hell are you smoking?The problem is that the population in Germany, France, Italy and Spain dosen't learn English at school, or atleast didn't in the past.
Let me educate you, since i was born in Germany and spent the first 30 years of my life there.
- Everyone(!), starting in the early '60s, has to learn English in school. It is mandatory!
- Anyone(!) who moves on to highschool has to pick a 2nd language (of your choice)
That's a minimum of 3 languages (if you count native German) for most of the people 55 or younger. They might not be fluent in all of them but at least they had several years of exposure to those languages in school.
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@doggie What the hell are you smoking?The problem is that the population in Germany, France, Italy and Spain dosen't learn English at school, or atleast didn't in the past.
Let me educate you, since i was born in Germany and spent the first 30 years of my life there.
- Everyone(!), starting in the early '60s, has to learn English in school. It is mandatory!
- Anyone(!) who moves on to highschool has to pick a 2nd language (of your choice)
That's a minimum of 3 languages (if you count native German) for most of the people 55 or younger. They might not be fluent in all of them but at least they had several years of exposure to those languages in school.
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Ah... that explains the monitoring of posts in all three languages.
Obviously, we don't do the same here in the States, or teach Geography and History.
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elsom23✭✭zenimax will learn from their mistakes and fix this issue and americans do not have a say on the EU part of the game so keep your words to yourself maybe they will enable us to translate what we are saying for non english talking players
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fyendiarb16_ESO✭✭✭As a Dutch player I am happy I have the option to play on the US megaserver, I kinda like the fact that I can understand everyone is saying.
Tried playing on the European server, but way too many languages I don't speak. Not that I really fit in with the USA mindset all the time (very militaristic compared to the Dutch for example), but it's not something that is annoying. Being unable to understand the language is.
There are just too many languages in Europe to split them up into mega- or should I say mini-servers.0 -
elsom23✭✭fyendiarb16_ESO wrote: »As a Dutch player I am happy I have the option to play on the US megaserver, I kinda like the fact that I can understand everyone is saying.
Tried playing on the European server, but way too many languages I don't speak. Not that I really fit in with the USA mindset all the time (very militaristic compared to the Dutch for example), but it's not something that is annoying. Being unable to understand the language is.
There are just too many languages in Europe to split them up into mega- or should I say mini-servers.
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Reykice✭✭✭✭✭Yea this 3 language crap is really annoying... we even get server messages in 3 languages its like the tower of Babel...
You should maybe restrict the non english server messages for people who have German/French selected as main language and are playing in that language.
And for the love of pie please enforce english only in General Chat... there are MANY countries in the EU and Europe, if we all start to use our native language for the hell of it or pride then the General Chat will die...
Its stupid to let them speak in French, German or whatever other language they use when 90% of the people there don`t understand what is being said.
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joshisanonymous✭✭✭✭I haven't noticed any language issues on the NA server, and I was phased with a good amount of Québécois at launch as I was playing in French.
I'm surprised it would be an issue on the EU megaserver. I just imagined that Europeans would be pretty used to interacting with foreigners who speak different languages since the countries there are all relatively small.
Please stop making us look stupid. English is not the only language in the US. It's not even the oldest language in the US. Many of us in Louisiana speak French and it was the major language of the state both long before and long after it became part of the country, up until it was beat out of people in school starting in the '40s.
Besides, ZoS has clearly marketed the game towards a multilingual, international community... meaning the internet.Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on 6 June 2014 01:463 -
Lodestar✭✭✭✭AlexDougherty wrote: »Hmm, i dont have seen many insults, mostly everyone agrees to talk english. I still prefer a mixed server, i like to play with guys from spain, norway, denmark, UK, france, germany etc !
Lol, even the English don't expect everyone to speak English, I don't. As for everyone playing nicely, it depends who's playing.
Some people stir up racist just by walking into the room, other do their best to calm everything down. (Note I live near Liverpool, where "calm down" is fighting talk.)(No, I'm not joking, just in case you've never visited Liverpool).
Add to the mix nearly two thousand years of insults, wars, politics and worse actually visiting other countries (you either understand that one or not, won't explain it). And European tempers can be lost very easily.
All you can do is try to keep the peace, and hope people get it out of their system.
This man, has just written a short guide on survival, for tourists and visitors to Merseyside.1 -
Gisgo✭✭✭✭✭Omg people from different countries on the same server? This is crazy and needs to be stopped.1
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I cant understand what they are saying as in sure more can they understand me, i can be a problem and Il admit i have left some groups because lack of communication on bosses, they need to filter and match people better, or some kind of translate option.0
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Haha! Had a good laugh
Now let's talk about the metric system... 
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Gisgo✭✭✭✭✭The problem is that the population in Germany, France, Italy and Spain dosen't learn English at school, or atleast didn't in the past. In my opinion it's on the border to abuse of the population when in this Internet age you don't learn English by default in school.
If all the countries mix most players will eventually learn English, since that the most used language. That atleast happend in AoC. The language barrier used to be a problem and then the players slowly learned English. Then the hate towards certain countries were reduced.
Actually we do learn English at school, slightly better than you, it seems.
I can't wait to meet another "please help me i'm lost" english speaking tourist.
I'm sorry man, you should have learned my language
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Just three? Sounds more like a toddler's first tower of Babel.alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »Yea this 3 language crap is really annoying... we even get server messages in 3 languages its like the tower of Babel...
I'm fine on the EU server. Like I said many times in the past, foreign languages don't bother me in the slightest. About jerks in the zone chat? People always find something to argue about, no matter what language they speak.
I just wish the announcements and patch notes on the forum were segregated by language...Edited by Rosveen on 5 June 2014 18:411 -
dolmen✭✭✭Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »eso is an american made game and should be english speaking only. we played your asain games and other 3rd, 4th, and even 11nth world country games and had to put up with your not knowing english but this is not your countries game so why should we be forced to speak your launguage? you came to our game so its only fair you speak our launguage.
Haha! Had a good laugh Now let's talk about the metric system... 
Yes... lets talk metric... Avoirdupois... Thank you England Or France... really should read up on that. Edited by dolmen on 5 June 2014 18:45The Sidekick Order0 -
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You really should invest in a good spell checker ...
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The only insult that I ever learned was "You're mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberry." No idea why this would upset the Brits. "I fart in your general direction!" made more sense.0 -
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I dunno, it depends a bit on what you've eaten...0 -
Gisgo✭✭✭✭✭I have seen the five star movement in eu and al shabab also very bad and needs to be stopped because its gonna get to the point where you gonna have in game stuff becoming real life stuff pretty much someone will say something and take it to heart it needs to stopped fast it happened in wow few years ago and some other mmo games
terrorist groups do exist in online video games
You sure it wasnt a kebab?
But tell me more, im bored.
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fyendiarb16_ESO✭✭✭joshisanonymous wrote: »I haven't noticed any language issues on the NA server, and I was phased with a good amount of Québécois at launch as I was playing in French.
I'm surprised it would be an issue on the EU megaserver. I just imagined that Europeans would be pretty used to interacting with foreigners who speak different languages since the countries there are all relatively small.
In the USA English is pretty much the official language, while contrary to what those dictators in Brussels want us to believe, Europe is divided strongly between languages and cultures, only a tiny minority considers him-/herself European.
They consider themselves Dutch, German, French, etc, but not European. The politicians are working hard on forcing us into an undemocratic European Union, taking away the sovereign power of the nation states and pretend to represent Europe as a whole, but fact is that the vast majority of European citizens see their own language, culture and countries as far more important than the pipe-dream called the European Union.
So mainly in countries like Germany and France they often refuse to speak English. Even the politicians in the European Union need translators to speak to each other. So when even those that want Europe to become one single state refuse to speak the same language, it is not a surprise that gamers don't either.3 -
xanikk999✭✭✭What benefit would most of the countries have to becoming a single state?
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Gisgo✭✭✭✭✭Europe one single state? You are dreaming.
There are thousands of years of history behind our languages and cultures.
God bless variety and people different from me, because i can learn from them.Edited by Gisgo on 5 June 2014 18:572 -
Tannakaobi✭✭✭✭✭The problem is that the population in Germany, France, Italy and Spain dosen't learn English at school, or atleast didn't in the past. In my opinion it's on the border to abuse of the population when in this Internet age you don't learn English by default in school.
If all the countries mix most players will eventually learn English, since that the most used language. That atleast happend in AoC. The language barrier used to be a problem and then the players slowly learned English. Then the hate towards certain countries were reduced.
Actually we do learn English at school, slightly better than you, it seems.
I can't wait to meet another "please help me i'm lost" english speaking tourist.
I'm sorry man, you should have learned my language
I know your joking, but just remember that not all only English speaking people are so ignorant. Although it would seem only English speaking people are so full of themselves that they expect everyone to bow down to them and do exactly as they say.
Unlike other countries, English people do not have to learn another languages, other than a three year period from ages 11-14. These classes are usually just a waste of time too. My school did French and German, so I opted for German but two lesson a week for three years really didn't teach me that much.
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fyendiarb16_ESO✭✭✭What benefit would most of the countries have to becoming a single state?
For example what benefit would Germany have to pick up Greece's slack? Why would the strong countries want to become united with the weaker ones (Economically).
No country would benefit, the select few powerful individuals that are forcing us into it however will make sure they will benefit enormously gaining both power and wealth while stripping away the little power the people have and making the inhabitants poorer.
edit: anyway, enough about politics, this is about a game server.
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Dayel✭✭✭No matter where you are from or what language you speak, politics, religion and whose ancestors did what to whom should be avoided in game chat. Some things need to be reserved for real life conversations, if they need to be talked about at all.0 -
joshisanonymous✭✭✭✭@fyendiarb16_ESO Well, yeah, of course I only meant that people would be accustomed to a multilingual atmosphere, not that they'd see the continent as more important than their home countries.
Then again, I've heard more about these types of problems with those who have to most directly work within multiple languages due to both being prominent within a single community. For instance, French and Dutch in Brussels, French and German in Switzerland, Catalan and Spanish in Catalonia, etc. So, I dunno.
(I'm actually going to Brussels for a bit this summer and was told to just speak English because people will hate you if you speak French.)0
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