Should Zos add more rare items to the game?

SwordOfSagas · May 26

We have items like the white-gold war torte fragment from battle grounds and the extremely rare mushroom stinkhorn polyp from Vvardenfell + a few more, I personally would like each zone to have a super rare furnishing just so wherever you're exploring there's that chance of a big surprise. Just a my opinion what's yours?

LunaFlora · May 26

No

No.
Low drop chance is tedious and not fun.

i want more items that you get immediately when you do whatever you get it from.
Gold cost and achievements for completion are good.

Those mushroom furnishings from Vvardenfell should not be so rare, i want to actually use them in Housing. Furnishings are supposed to be for decorating your homes.

Hapexamendios · May 26

No

Would prefer content that is engaging and not monotonous repetition.

SwordOfSagas · May 26

So everything should drop first boss kill or first looted container? In other words make everything worthless? MMO's are meant to be grindy and I'm not saying if they did add rare things it would have to be on the stinkhorn polyp level rarity. I do housing too, but I like to make gold to fund it.

Erickson9610 · May 26

SwordOfSagas wrote: »

So everything should drop first boss kill or first looted container? In other words make everything worthless? MMO's are meant to be grindy and I'm not saying if they did add rare things it would have to be on the stinkhorn polyp level rarity. I do housing too, but I like to make gold to fund it.

We can have rare things without them being sellable.

I like the idea of having rare discoveries that players can encounter, so long as those discoveries don't turn into tedious grinds because players have external motives for trying to encounter them. For instance, it'd be really cool to see events happening in the world — but the moment they reward something that you want multiple of (such as something you can sell) it becomes less of a cool discovery and more of a job.

LunaFlora · May 27

No

SwordOfSagas wrote: »

So everything should drop first boss kill or first looted container? In other words make everything worthless? MMO's are meant to be grindy and I'm not saying if they did add rare things it would have to be on the stinkhorn polyp level rarity. I do housing too, but I like to make gold to fund it.

yes it would be nice if more furnishings dropped at first loot.
Furnishing plans, antiquity leads, furnishings from fishing and resources are way too rare and not fun to endlessly search for.

Solstice also has furnishings that drop from resources.
i still have not looted a single Orange Gorse. Gorse is one of my favourite plant furnishings and i love to use Yellow and Purple in my homes, they are from Home Goods so i actually can use dozens of them easily.
Orange Gorse i cannot do the same with and this is not fun.

i make my gold from crafting writs, selling treasures, and sometimes selling motifs and furnishing plans.
I purchase most plants and mushrooms from Home Goods and Luxury Furnishers.
i wish those zone resource drops were available from Home Goods too so we can always get them, that way an occasional drop from resources in zones would be an actual fun surprise due to it being a bonus instead of being the only source.

katanagirl1 · May 27

Other

The drop rate of the items you mentioned are practically non-existent. I like rare drops but those are too rare.

spartaxoxo · May 27

Other

katanagirl1 wrote: »

The drop rate of the items you mentioned are practically non-existent. I like rare drops but those are too rare.

100% This. I'd add that I personally would actually like more rare drops but they shouldn't be so rare that even with everyone playing the content nobody has it and you can't even really buy it. Some items are of such rarity that the playerbase as whole is unsure if it really exists. That's absurd. They consider actually obtainable drops to be uncommon based on the dyes. So I'd like more uncommon drops.

BretonMage · May 27

No

Hard no. There's enough grind in housing. It's one thing to be surprised by a rare drop (spoiler: it will not happen to you), but it's another thing altogether if you actually need a rare thing.

SilverBride · May 27

No

Anything that makes RNG worse is a big NO.

CatalinaWineMixer2 · May 27

Other

More rare items are ok. I have absolutely terrible rng and am against any more farming. I dont even do housing because my rng is so bad. If it could be in such a way they dropped from say any encounter in one particular zone and are bound. Same drop rate applies to all encounters not just a specific one. Just some way that we must achieve it on our own in a way it cannot be farmed or sold. Luck and chance can be fun things. Maybe a lot of these types of items to add a new element to the game.

Renato90085 · May 27

Other

rare items,yes
but if It takes many years and is almost non-existent like mushroom ,no

Silaf · May 27

Yes

The market need rare items to prosper.
At the moment there is nothing rare players can exchange except furnishing praxies.

whitecrow · May 27

Yes

Sure, why not.
I don't farm or hunt for these things, but it would be nice to get one by surprise sometime. I got aetherial dust a couple times.

Gabriel_H · May 27

Other

Define rare?

So, there is a furnishing item in the game. It's a reasonabley lengthed chain. It's good for hanging items. It's a green item. It drops from Daedra and Dolmens - things regularly killed and farmed (Alik'r).

I've farmed more dolmens and daedra than I can count. Thousands of people have. I have 1 Daedric Chain, Segment. This is the current TTC listing for that green item that thousands of people kill thousands of the drop source every day:TTC Listing

Is the item essential? No. Is it really useful in a lot of furnishing places? Yes. Is it annoying that it is so rare? Absolutely.

LPapirius · May 27

Other

More rare items should be earn'able for sure.

Soarora · May 27

Other

I could not care less about rare items. I just write them off.

peacenote · May 28

Other

spartaxoxo wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

The drop rate of the items you mentioned are practically non-existent. I like rare drops but those are too rare.

100% This. I'd add that I personally would actually like more rare drops but they shouldn't be so rare that even with everyone playing the content nobody has it and you can't even really buy it. Some items are of such rarity that the playerbase as whole is unsure if it really exists. That's absurd. They consider actually obtainable drops to be uncommon based on the dyes. So I'd like more uncommon drops.

I agree with both of these sentiments; nothing to add.

SundarahFr3akinrican · May 28

Yes

Me and my friends where just talking about this, how MMOs now dont have rare drops and how hype it what.

Like Aetherial Dust in ESO, when that drops, its awesome. Be cooler if it was rare gear but dont know how theyd pull that off. But defintely. Rare drops are fun.

ValarMorghulis1896 · May 28

Yes

Yes, as rewards for the new difficulty system (world bosses on highest difficulty as an example)

DarkStrifeYT · May 28

No

Im a mostly mix in yes and no but No wins a bit more (52% on no), this is due to the fact that extremely long grinds for rare items cause burnout if people grind too much. Just take a look at RuneScape. It also causes people to try to bot or worse, create a black market for the item. However if said rare item is an item from completing certain achievements, that would be different. I wouldn't make it tradeable however.

While I understand some people like their rares and I myself having a lot of them (especially discontinued items that are tradable), it should be noted that rares do infact cause a whole problem behind the scenes in a way it can be devastating.

AllenaNightWood · May 28

Yes

im fine with more rare items as long as there not on par with drop rates of monster trophies are raidient apex mounts in crates

CatoUnchained · May 28

Yes

I'm confused as to why anyone would vote anything other than yes on this question. ESO is notoriously stingy with their drops and in game rewards.

Frayton · May 28

No

SwordOfSagas wrote: »

.. MMO's are meant to be grindy ...

I wonder if this mindset is what keeps the MMO genre small and declining compared to other gaming genres.

Gabriel_H · May 28

Other

Frayton wrote: »

SwordOfSagas wrote: »

.. MMO's are meant to be grindy ...

I wonder if this mindset is what keeps the MMO genre small and declining compared to other gaming genres.

Hugely flawed premise.

Single player games are around 20% of the games industry, with an annual revenue of around $40bn.
MMOs are around 15% of the games industry, with an annual revenue of around $30bn.
The rest of the market is multi-player non-MMOs.

Edit: Oh and MMOs are projected to increase their share up to $40bn in the next decade.

wolfie1.0. · May 28

Other

Frayton wrote: »

SwordOfSagas wrote: »

.. MMO's are meant to be grindy ...

I wonder if this mindset is what keeps the MMO genre small and declining compared to other gaming genres.

No its the fact that they cost a ton of $$$ and that the type of dedicated player that you need to have one to succeed is the type that has a steady income, but only time to commit to one MMO. Also the average life cycle for a successful MMO is a lot longer than most single player or multiplayer games. COD and FIFA have had a new release every few years, single player games average around 30 to 300 hours of play. Dedicated MMO players tend to have 1000s of hours. I myself have had over 10k hours in ESO. Ehich means I dont habe time to play BDO or FF14

Mesite · May 28

Yes

More?

The answer is always yes, but my houses are full. Full of have junk. I'd have to throw away all the duplicate statues and cases and jester boxes first. My characters are hoarders.

spartaxoxo · May 28

Other

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Frayton wrote: »

SwordOfSagas wrote: »

.. MMO's are meant to be grindy ...

I wonder if this mindset is what keeps the MMO genre small and declining compared to other gaming genres.

No its the fact that they cost a ton of $$$ and that the type of dedicated player that you need to have one to succeed is the type that has a steady income, but only time to commit to one MMO. Also the average life cycle for a successful MMO is a lot longer than most single player or multiplayer games. COD and FIFA have had a new release every few years, single player games average around 30 to 300 hours of play. Dedicated MMO players tend to have 1000s of hours. I myself have had over 10k hours in ESO. Ehich means I dont habe time to play BDO or FF14

A lot of that dedication needed is due to the huge amounts of grind that they require though. MMOs are multiplayer games, which perform better than single player games. So, why do people like them a lot less than other multiplayer games? I do think a big part of it is they tend to be grindy and thus require more of the player's time. With a fps game you could have 10 minutes to play and you'd still have a meaningful experience. On an MMO, that's enough time to get boring chore tasks done.

Idk the solution but I do think MMOs should have less grind as a genre.

Munkfist · May 28

Yes

I will always want more rare drops. Farming the original Ayleid Plans, Vvardenfell plants, and other furnishings and plans was some of the best parts of my time in ESO.

The downside is that they will just be made trivial as everyone wants that instant gratification as usual.

Dojohoda · May 28

Yes

Well.. yeah. Of course! I cannot say I find them much at all but when one drops, that's cool.

Vonnegut2506 · May 28

No

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Frayton wrote: »

SwordOfSagas wrote: »

.. MMO's are meant to be grindy ...

I wonder if this mindset is what keeps the MMO genre small and declining compared to other gaming genres.

Hugely flawed premise.

Single player games are around 20% of the games industry, with an annual revenue of around $40bn.
MMOs are around 15% of the games industry, with an annual revenue of around $30bn.
The rest of the market is multi-player non-MMOs.

Edit: Oh and MMOs are projected to increase their share up to $40bn in the next decade.

So since the MMORPG genre is doing so well, could you tell me the new, groundbreaking MMO's that have come out in the last couple years? I probably missed them while I was bouncing back and forth between a 20-years--old World of Warcraft and a 10-years-old Elder Scrolls Online. I would really like to give these brand new MMO's that are bringing in new fans of the genre a try.

The Elder Scrolls Online

Should Zos add more rare items to the game?

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