ESO classic

Xarc · November 20

Would you be interested in a new version of ESO with the following features:

No cp
No Account Wide Achievements
No subclassing
No scribing

This is already a starting point, although it could be supplemented by other things.

Last'One · November 20

Yes

Yes, please bring ESO back.

robwolf666 · November 20

Yes

I'd like to go back to the original ESO... Where zones were level locked, and alliance locked until you'd finished the war storyline. Makes no sense to me you can freely travel to enemy alliances while the war is still going on.

AcadianPaladin · November 20

No

I like AWA, subclassing, hybridization, unleveled zones so big NO from me.

aetherix8 · November 20

No

Personally, I have nothing against those systems. CP is fine, especially now that it’s reworked and we’re able to play the game without micromanaging the green tree perks all the time. I also like AWA as I never planned on repeating all the quests on my alts; I only quest on my main. I don’t use scribing that much, but the quests to unlock it are very enjoyable imo, and there’s nothing really game breaking in that system. And despite all the problems, I like subclassing, and I definitely have fun with my main DK Sorc. Subclassing has to be better balanced though because right now it’s destroying the diversity of viable builds, both in group PvE and PvP.

Xarc · November 20

Yes

This does not imply that the current version of ESO would no longer exist; it would be a parallel version, like in WoW.

thatnewcatsmell · November 20

No

This might a quester's dream, but it is a raider's nightmare. Early ESO had some interesting ideas and I'm certainly not a fan of all changes over the years, but we have so much QoL now it's probably too hard to go back. Think transmuting, reconstruction, curated drops, the armory system or even the outfit system. Also, a lot of old content is rather dull as compared to current content, even if you crank up the 'difficulty' by stripping away some of the power creep.

You could imagine a version of ESO with all the QoL features but without [enter your pet peeve here], but that wouldn't really be an ESO Classic. I'd rather have ZOS iterating on those features, instead of focusing on another (and frankly worse IMO) version of ESO, dividing the player base.

AzuraFan · November 20

Yes

I don't mind CP or scribing, though. But if the only way to get rid of AwA and subclassing would be to throw out everything, I'd be okay with that.

As Xarc said, this would involve adding a new server. It wouldn't eliminate ESO in its current form, so you could have characters playing classic and characters playing today's version.

valenwood_vegan · November 20

No

In all honesty, I don't think they could maintain two different versions of the game, unless "classic" literally means taking the old code from an earlier version and freezing the classic server in that state, without anything that's been added since and without additional updates.

Just look at how many random things break every time there's an update to the existing version of the game - the code is all intertwined in ways that even they don't fully understand.

But ok say they could do it... I also don't think one could get a substantial group of players to agree on what they'd like "classic" to look like.

What I think could be feasible (with the systems they've put in place for vengeance testing) is they could maybe do some kind of classic pvp instance with a different ruleset (like no subclassing, no scribing, combat balance in an earlier state, etc.). But would there be enough players to fill such an instance? And again, could one get enough players to agree on what version of classic they find appealing? I don't know.

BXR_Lonestar · November 20

No

Qualified no.

I like CP and I don't think they're the issue. And I like account wide achievements. Again - don't think they're the issue.

The issue with the game IMO is subclassing imbalance and hybridization. I think Stam specs should have an entirely different meta from Mag specs. and I think there should be no subclassing, but more focus placed on making classes stand out via class specific armors, unique class skills, perhaps unique class mythics, etc.

If ESO classic pre-dated subclassing and hybridization, then yes, I would go for it. But I want my CP and my account wide achievos.

Gabriel_H · November 20

No

Original base game didn't have CP but it did have VP and locked "end-game" behind it - being the crag trials which did not have normal difficulty, and crag itself which as an "adventure zone" was/is and abject failure.

rothan117 · November 20

No

I like account wide achievements and CP makes continuing to play a character beyond lvl 50 worthwhile. I have not bothered with subclassing and only dabbled with scribing before deciding I had no real use for it.

And given the population decline and the obvious lack of resources the ZOS team has, I think dividing up the remaining player base among multiple versions will make the population issues regarding grouping even more pronounced. And dividing the team's resources among multiple versions will just mean even less content per year.

karthrag_inak · November 20

No

Khajiit would support this endeavor whole-heartedly if only to give those who think they wish for the past an opportunity for enlightenment.

wolfie1.0. · November 20

No

Show me that you can get a trifecta in a dlc dungeon and the latest trail without subclassing, scribing, cp, and level 50 cp 10 gear and I may change my mind.

Renato90085 · November 20

The game doesn't have enough players can to split.
it not one of other successful MMOs

MorallyBipolar · November 20

I like my CP, otherwise sounds great to me.

At the very least I'd 100% support reverting Cyrodiil to v1.6.

preevious · November 20

Yes

I wouldn't play much on it ..but it would be nice to see if I'd have an easier time with Doshia this time around.

It would be for the novelty, though ... it would be vastly inferior than what we have now.

Morvan · November 20

No

Trying to split the population to even more servers is a terrible idea, we should be going to the opposite direction with crossplay, joining all NA servers into one, all EU servers into one.

Removing CPs, Scribing and Subclassing will hurt the average players way more, people already complain about how hard content is, the average player can barely tap regular veteran trials even with all these things, ZOS would need to restructure and rebalance 11 years worth of content for this hypothetical server, to make it somewhat achievable for the average player.

All the changes you dislike about this game can be adjusted to fit something close to the ideal for the majority, they just need to do a better job at balancing.

jm42 · November 20

Yes

no CP maybe a bit harsh, but no subclassing and no hybridization are much welcomed

SneaK · November 20

No

I’m not a fan of subclassing and many other changes they’ve made throughout time, but rehashed versions never appeal to me.

I just want ZOS to revert hybridization and see what balance shakes out from that.

AzuraFan · November 20

Yes

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

In all honesty, I don't think they could maintain two different versions of the game, unless "classic" literally means taking the old code from an earlier version and freezing the classic server in that state, without anything that's been added since and without additional updates.

That's exactly how it would work. It's the whole point. They would install a version of the code before those features and leave it at that. They might have to do the usual maintenance, but there wouldn't be any updates.

DoofusMax · November 20

No

Let's ignore the inevitable complaints about monetization because I assume a "new version" means a new purchase. How are the people who buy the "classic" going to be integrated into the larger player base? Do "classic" players get their own queues or are they supposed to be relegated to their own servers? At the moment, I have the option of avoiding all of that (except AWA) simply by not doing it. I generally haven't slotted CP until characters reach Level 50 anyway (one exception out of seven alts that I can think of) and CP is mostly set-and-forget for me outside of the Craft Tree. I mostly only use scribed skills for endeavors and only one character is currently subclassed; they're working up morphs that didn't get worked up earlier, so it's not like they're actually using those skills as part of a build.

Soarora · November 20

No

It’s too late. I’m not redoing the past almost 7 years. Besides, my main content is dungeons so I need the new updates and my friends. I’d only check it out to see what old ESO was like.

Treeshka · November 20

Unfortunately Elder Scrolls Online is not like other games, majority of the player base is here because of the things we accumulated, did and achieved. Why would i start from zero?

Personofsecrets · November 20

Yes

ESO Classic

- Stamina Regeneration While Blocking
- Ultimate generated by critical hits
- Weapon and spell damage an absolute mystery
- Purple food the best food
- Reflective scales actually does something

Shawn_PT · November 20

I'm okay with some of these things.

CP is okay.

AWA has grown on me. Yes I hate that I can no longer collect things on alts. But some of them we shouldn't need to. Such as the ones which unlock titles. And I'm okay with that.

Boo to subclassing. I'm trying as much as I can not to touch it. It feels gross to spoil my once "pure", identify-having characters with stuff that does NOT belong, looks like ¥#%{¢$, and has no business being there.

Scribing is meh. Don't care. Don't really use it unless specifically told to. Don't see the point. The only thing that makes me not like it is the annoying charm effect in Cyro with NO indication that's on.

valenwood_vegan · November 20

No

AzuraFan wrote: »

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

In all honesty, I don't think they could maintain two different versions of the game, unless "classic" literally means taking the old code from an earlier version and freezing the classic server in that state, without anything that's been added since and without additional updates.

That's exactly how it would work. It's the whole point. They would install a version of the code before those features and leave it at that. They might have to do the usual maintenance, but there wouldn't be any updates.

[EDIT: from OP's later replies, it seems like they are asking for eso as it exists now, but with certain features removed; NOT for eso as it existed at an earlier time. My opinion remains that zos simply does not have the capability to develop and maintain another version of the game in this way].

And then I still think it would be nearly impossible to find a large enough group of players who actually agree on what classic features they would want - the answers in these types of posts are generally all over the place, with most people just selecting certain features they personally dislike.

JBNimble · November 20

No

They barely keep ONE game up and running half-decently, imagine what happens if the same personnel has to maintain TWO games.

Overamera · November 20

Yes

ESO classic without hybrid and subclass yes. Keep everything else. Sadly all players quit that would want that and only people who are fine with subclass still play

Xarc · November 20

Yes

Shawn_PT wrote: »

CP is okay.

For me you can't ask ESO classic with CP ON. It's nonsense

Erickson9610 · November 20

No

ESO Classic would remove several quality of life features, like drop curation, the Armory, mount swimming, stackable writs/surveys, and many more we take for granted. Presuming ESO Classic is a separate server (like PTS is from PC/NA and PC/EU) then none of your progress would transfer between servers.

At that point, you'd be playing ESO Classic solely for the combat, which is a very niche audience. There's so much more to this game than just the way you fight enemies.

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