ESO classic

Xarc

Yes

Gabriel_H wrote: »

What else wouldn't you inlcude?

I mean, this thread is here to get a sense of the community's opinion in November 2025 regarding a potential ESO Classic.
Everything is still up for discussion regarding what should or shouldn't be included.

spartaxoxo

No

Xarc wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

If it rolled back to Veteran levels, we'd be missing a ton of quality of life improvements and fun systems. The classic version of this game was DOA. It had to have a relaunch. Rolling back to vet levels removes everything in the game from Dark Brotherhood onwards.

This would mean....

No DLC dungeons except Imperial City
No Transmute Station
No Battle Grounds
No Jewelry Crafting
No curated drops
No Armory station
No sticker book
No group finder
No guild store improvements
No marking unknown collectibles
No Warden
No Arcanist
No Antiquities


Etc etc

No, thank you

I never said anything about removing all of that. It's simply about CP, AwA, subclassing, and scribing.
Why are you going off on a paranoid tangent just to scare people?

The only other thing I haven't mentioned, but which could be considered in ESO Classic, is Tamriel Unlimited, meaning that from the start all faction zones are accessible to everyone. Personally, I find this anti-RP and absurd, but never mind, I didn't mention it.
You start with a red character, you can't go to the blue team until you've finished the main quest, just like it was at the game's launch.

It's not a paranoid tangent. What "Classic" means in most MMO spaces is going backwards to an earlier build of the game. It purposefully excludes modern patches.

You mentioned you didn't want CP included because Vet Levels are what you consider to be the classic state of the game. Vet Levels were removed with the introduction of the Dark Brotherhood DLC. So that would be the cutoff patch on a classic server with other games.

If your idea isn't ESO classic, maybe you should restart the thread with a different explanation. Because when many people hear ESO classic, they are thinking about servers that go back to classic patches.

Xarc

Yes

spartaxoxo wrote: »

You mentioned you didn't want CP included because Vet Levels are what you consider to be the classic state of the game. Vet Levels were removed with the introduction of the Dark Brotherhood DLC. So that would be the cutoff patch on a classic server with other games.

I never mentioned the Veteran system, you must have mistaken me for someone else.
The CP system may be better, but that's no reason to forget that other changes are problematic and that many people don't like them.

spartaxoxo

No

Xarc wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

You mentioned you didn't want CP included because Vet Levels are what you consider to be the classic state of the game. Vet Levels were removed with the introduction of the Dark Brotherhood DLC. So that would be the cutoff patch on a classic server with other games.

I never mentioned the Veteran system, you must have mistaken me for someone else.
The CP system may be better, but that's no reason to forget that other changes are problematic and that many people don't like them.

Prior to CP, it was Vet Levels. So NO CP = Vet Levels. At least if we're going by classic standards.

What is your vision of the game if you don't want either of those things?

Xarc

Yes

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Xarc wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

You mentioned you didn't want CP included because Vet Levels are what you consider to be the classic state of the game. Vet Levels were removed with the introduction of the Dark Brotherhood DLC. So that would be the cutoff patch on a classic server with other games.

I never mentioned the Veteran system, you must have mistaken me for someone else.
The CP system may be better, but that's no reason to forget that other changes are problematic and that many people don't like them.

Prior to CP, it was Vet Levels. So NO CP = Vet Levels. At least if we're going by classic standards.

What is your vision of the game if you don't want either of those things?

I think the fundamental difference between ESO and ESO Classic is that ESO Classic is a game experience based on a longer timeframe, with slower progression, an old-school leveling system like it was at the beginning (leveled zones), and the inability to travel everywhere before discovering the zones.

Making players incredibly powerful with 200k DPS doesn't appeal to everyone. I think it only widened the gap between beginners and experienced players.

I don't know if it would be possible to return to the old way combat worked (animated cut, old dodge system, old blocking system, old light/heavy attack system), as well as certain class skills (old Nightblade cloak, old Templar jab, old DK wings, etc. etc etc).

Today, everything is geared towards getting everyone to the top as quickly as possible, with an abundance of XP scrolls and everything else. I think the game was much more satisfying when it was more challenging, when leveling up took longer, and when obtaining rare components was something worthwhile.

Obviously, I might be talking about a time that many players didn't experience, but I know that many people are nostalgic for all of that.

In other words, while I did suggest four options in the survey, I think that if ESO Classic were ever to be released, they would really need to consider a completely different game, one that has already existed in the past. It wouldn't just be the same game with fewer features; otherwise, put that way, it's not very interesting.

Pepegrillos

Yes

I think there are enough people out there who aren't playing ESO anymore that would come back to play a separate Classic version of ESO.

DestroyerPewnack

Yes

Came here to start a similar thread. Although my version of it would also remove skill/set hybridization, but keep champion points in.
The game used to be so fun. I don't recognize it anymore. :c

I went from playing it for an unhealthy amount of hours every single day, almost since a year after release, to not having played it for almost a year now. Haven't found a game to replace it yet, and I'm feeling kind of homeless. </3

Also, I don't understand the people voting no? How would other players getting a modded server of the game affect your life? It's not a zero-sum game.

liliub17_ESO

The game is barely managed now, what number of fresh tribulations would having two for the devs to track create?

- CP is fine.

- AWA - have a toggle for players who want to turn it off but not remove altogether it for others who do use it. I sincerely dislike AWA, others' opinions and play styles differ.

- Sub-classing/multi-classing - balance it, though I (as a non-coder) have no idea how. Several have mentioned a damage penalty for each class line added which sounds reasonable and seems to be feasible. That's similar to how such things are handled in other games including table top.

- Scribing - meh. It's ok but to be honest doesn't really add a whole lot for me. For others, it may contribute quite a bit.

ESO_player123

No

DestroyerPewnack wrote: »

Came here to start a similar thread. Although my version of it would also remove skill/set hybridization, but keep champion points in.
The game used to be so fun. I don't recognize it anymore. :c

I went from playing it for an unhealthy amount of hours every single day, almost since a year after release, to not having played it for almost a year now. Haven't found a game to replace it yet, and I'm feeling kind of homeless. </3

Also, I don't understand the people voting no? How would other players getting a modded server of the game affect your life? It's not a zero-sum game.

The question of this poll was "Would you be interested...". So, I voted accordingly. No, I would not be interested. As for being unaffected, the resources would be spent on this separate server which could be otherwise spent on developing content for the existing ones.

valenwood_vegan

No

DestroyerPewnack wrote: »

Also, I don't understand the people voting no? How would other players getting a modded server of the game affect your life? It's not a zero-sum game.

Thing is, the poll question wasn't "would it affect your life if eso classic was released." It was "would you be interested in...". So people who are not interested would generally... vote no in response to such a question.

And I mean beyond that, people tend to have different opinions and tend to favor development time and resources being put toward features and changes to the game that are of interest to them, rather than things that are not.

Juju_beans

Yes

Another big MMO created a classic version of itself and was and still is a smashing success

Anilahation

Yes

Renato90085 wrote: »

The game doesn't have enough players can to split.
it not one of other successful MMOs

Guild wards is getting Guild wars Reforged, Rift Prime and etc... other smaller MMOs have done it. I honestly would love to go back and play Veteran Rank ESO.

Gabriel_H

No

Juju_beans wrote: »

Another big MMO created a classic version of itself and was and still is a smashing success

That was because one of their expansions literally changed the entire game world. That same MMO then released the same expansion for their Classic version and it did not go down well.