Vengeance has officially ended the THREE BANNERS WAR

exiars10 · September 27

To finish report from the last evening…
"PCMR" EU mega server prime time stats for the last evening (Friday):
It started:
AD – 2 bars / EP – 3 bars / DC – 2 bars

At ~20.40 AD was at 3, too.

At ~21.40 EP dropped to 2.

So until 23 CET when I left Cyrodiil and which is already past prime time, it was AD – 3 and EP & DC – 2. Soon after DC dropped to 1 and AD to 2. I see Panthermic posted screenshot.
However, when I left the game at midnight, EP had 3 bars which means that EP for sure finally won one day as at 23 hours, we and EP had the same score (+/-20 points).

I‘m starting to think that indeed role players play V3. We had Gandalf the Purple (from Iceland?) scroll runner. Sorry for the somehow bad screenshot, but you can partially see that zone chat was full of funny comments

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I‘ll later today post more screenshots related to Veiled Heritance propaganda

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@amiiegee

I almost agree with you in everything but your hate of Vengeance has nothing with the (rapid?) declining state of the game.
U46 and doubling down in U47 created massive damage to the game, and I wrote a lot about it.
Yes, fake subclassing which is essencially hybridization 2.0 is destroying the game.
I fully agree about it.

But, reminder that "PCMR" EU mega server is the largest. You console palyers are minority especially Xbox which is a dying platform as MSFT clearly jumped ship. And PvP players are also small minority. So console PvP players are minorty of already minority player base.
And the vast majority of ESO whales who are jumping ship since U46 are obviously not PvP players.

MISTFORMBZZZ · September 27

exiars10 wrote: »

@amiiegee

I almost agree with you in everything but your hate of Vengeance has nothing with the (rapid?) declining state of the game.
U46 and doubling down in U47 created massive damage to the game, and I wrote a lot about it.
Yes, fake subclassing which is essencially hybridization 2.0 is destroying the game.
I fully agree about it.

But, reminder that "PCMR" EU mega server is the largest. You console palyers are minority especially Xbox which is a dying platform as MSFT clearly jumped ship. And PvP players are also small minority. So console PvP players are minorty of already minority player base.
And the vast majority of ESO whales who are jumping ship since U46 are obviously not PvP players.

You‘re saying you agree on everything they said but come here to make a prove everything is fine 😅 That‘s fully paradox.

PC EU is surely the biggest server and doesn‘t have the issues yet but the other platforms with their players who invested +10y of money and time and dedication into their accounts have a right to speak and a right to exist next to PC EU aswell.
And a right to report about their experiences (positive or negative) without being directly put in the shadow by „no on pc its fine“.

exiars10 · September 27

MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »

You‘re saying you agree on everything they said but come here to make a prove everything is fine 😅 That‘s fully paradox.

PC EU is surely the biggest server and doesn‘t have the issues yet but the other platforms with their players who invested +10y of money and time and dedication into their accounts have a right to speak and a right to exist next to PC EU aswell.
And a right to report about their experiences (positive or negative) without being directly put in the shadow by „no on pc its fine“.

Reading comprehension again?

PC EU has many issues, too, I posted in another threads, players are obviously permanently leaving as our economy is in the full deflatory death spiral since U46 and there is no end of it. I fully documented that. And that's just many of issue, let me not start about various technical one which I report(ed) many times...

Again, Vengeance tests have nothing with it.
Whales and absolutely the vast majority of players are not Cyrodiil PvP players who are even smaller minority percentage wise on PC EU as our population is vastly bigger compared to consoles. GH is only full at Prime Time, and DC absolutely dominates so there is no reason to go into Cyrodiil at all if you are Red or Yellow player like me.

The only thing I proved is that PC EU players play Vengeance test in the prime time, but I still can't figure out who they are. Nothing less, nothing more.
This thread is about Vengeance, no?
I fully aknowledged that console situation is abysmal, but I initially started to post as counter to projection that Vengeance test is a faliure except on PC EU is successful.

exiars10 · September 27

As the former Eyes of the Queen member and proud Dominion Hero title holder...
The yesterday's (Friday) evening will always have a special place in my heart

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I finally managed to slay 100 Veiled Heritance Altmer traitors.
Small feat for Dominion, but huge for me

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I present you the biggest Veiled Heritance piece of propaganda so far.
They claim that 120+ AD soldiers, NCOs, officers, and generals at Siege* of Fort Ash shows how much Dominion is incompentent as this was completely unnecessary show of excessive force

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*It was liberation.

Another show of unnecessary show of excessive force.

But, there is more.
Another huge mobilizations, this time in the defense of Roeback, first against Reds, later Blues who mostly wiped initial Red wave.
Veiled Heritance propaganda - if you need 120+ strong army to defend castle from the small enemy raid (50+), you are truly incompentent.

katanagirl1 · 5:30AM

Estin wrote: »

MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »

exiars10 wrote: »

MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »

exiars10 wrote: »

I really like how console (PS) players are projecting their situation like everywhere else is the same.

Where did you read this & have this from?

OP is literally saying it´s PS EU.

???

I know OP is PS player.
They, console players post here on forum how:
1) Nobody plays Vengeance, and
2) Many of them posted how their PvP guilds are boycotting Vengeance.

So narrative here is that, logically, players reject Vengeance test and is obviously a failure.

Except, I posted that PC EU has 3 bars for each faction in prime time, and Vengeance 1 bar = 3 bars normally.
Screenshot is from the last evening from obviously PC EU just to show that there are players who play and enjoy Vengeance.

So, this projection from consoles how Vengeance is a failure is not true for PC EU mega server, and again PC EU mega server has officially the biggest player population.

And where do you have from that 3 bars in gh are 1 bar in vengeance?
Seems like youre just making up things because you dont like the opinions others have.

Its more like the OP is saying Consoles dont like vengeance since nobody is playing it and youre just projecting it to PC claiming people are liking it.

Different audition, different circumstances, different opinions

On PC there's an addon called miats pvp alerts. With it, you can view the total amount of players in a single area, including those on enemy factions. In the first vengeance test, it told me there were ~250 players on EP alone at arrius. This was an accurate number too btw, the addon doesn't inflate numbers. After the fight, I ported back to the main base and it told me there were ~20 standing at spawn. Now, some of these players may have had the same idea as me, but with how many of them were by the gate, I would wager the total population per alliance during vengeance is 300. I don't know the pop cap per alliance in GH, but I would say it's anywhere from 50-60. I never tested to be sure, but I'm confident that is the cap due to how empty cyrodiil is even at peak times.

The bars on the campaign screen indicate how full the campaign is. Since there 3 bars, it makes sense that an alliance will hit a bar every 1/3 of the way. Say that we take vengeance's and GH's upper guesses, so 60 and 300. For an alliance to gain 1 bar in GH, there would need to be at least 20 players in the campaign on that alliance. There will need to be 60 for it to pop lock. Now for vengeance, it will work the same way, but the number is now higher. For an alliance to gain 1 bar in vengeance, there would need to be at least 100 players in the campaign on that alliance. There will need to be 300 for it to pop lock.

All vengeance is doing on console is showing how low of a population consoles have. That's it. Console players are taking it as vengeance killing pvp, but it's actually them protesting over a misunderstanding.

I just want to clarify that even though PS NA players are not participating in Vengeance like they do in GH, even in GH the pop is low often. Typically EP 3 bars and locked, AD 2 bars and DC 1 bar prime time for the previous campaign. Earlier in the day it is far less. Sometimes for a new campaign all the guys on the leaderboard shift to AD and have it pop locked and EP is less.

PvE events like the Undaunted tend to cause population to drop at least one bar or two anyway, so it is hard to say if it is a protest or not. I would assume many of us like to do both PvP and PvE like I do.

SeaGtGruff · 5:40AM

exiars10 wrote: »

MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »

You‘re saying you agree on everything they said but come here to make a prove everything is fine 😅 That‘s fully paradox.

PC EU is surely the biggest server and doesn‘t have the issues yet but the other platforms with their players who invested +10y of money and time and dedication into their accounts have a right to speak and a right to exist next to PC EU aswell.
And a right to report about their experiences (positive or negative) without being directly put in the shadow by „no on pc its fine“.

Reading comprehension again?

PC EU has many issues, too, I posted in another threads, players are obviously permanently leaving as our economy is in the full deflatory death spiral since U46 and there is no end of it. I fully documented that. And that's just many of issue, let me not start about various technical one which I report(ed) many times...

Again, Vengeance tests have nothing with it.
Whales and absolutely the vast majority of players are not Cyrodiil PvP players who are even smaller minority percentage wise on PC EU as our population is vastly bigger compared to consoles. GH is only full at Prime Time, and DC absolutely dominates so there is no reason to go into Cyrodiil at all if you are Red or Yellow player like me.

The only thing I proved is that PC EU players play Vengeance test in the prime time, but I still can't figure out who they are. Nothing less, nothing more.
This thread is about Vengeance, no?
I fully aknowledged that console situation is abysmal, but I initially started to post as counter to projection that Vengeance test is a faliure except on PC EU is successful.

Have you been to Gray Host on PCEU lately? Because you say that DC dominates it, yet this month (before the Vengeance test began) AD was so far ahead of DC and EP that we had no reasonable chance of catching up before Vengeance began and the regular campaigns ended early.