Note, that Warhammer Online shows one problem of collision detection in pvp. The collision detection produced massive server lag in large scaled fights.

Generally is the idea of collision detection realy good, but i think for massive pvp situations we need next generation servers to handle this.

RaZaddha wrote: »

/point
/laugh
"Spiritual successor" of DAoC my ass...

Haha yeah... Just have to wait for Camelot Unchained... in Mark Jacobs we trust.... our last and only hope.

At least my only hope... if CU can't repeat the fun of DAoC no game will ever.

Edit - Why is everyone running around with groups of 24...That's the other problem as well.
I miss the old days of MMOs where 4-8 player groups running round PvP.

.... Wait AoE caps there's no down side of having more and caps actually encourage it. Stupid stupid Zenimax.

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Screw AOE caps. I want to see player hitbox collision detection.

Both will lag the servers. One will allow ten guys with shields to block a doorway, the other will allow players to use more AOE. I like the 10 guys with shields options.

This is not possible with the curent prediction algorithm they use for compensating for the latency. Try this test: run around grouped with a friend, both record the events then compare the video's, they will be quite different regarding players positioning/movement/etc.

Its very unfortunate since im a big fan of colision detection myself but it will never happen

EDIT: the pve colision detection is a joke...only there to anoy the hell out of people (like npc blocking entrances/pushing players on horse while casualy walking, etc.). They took a good idea and made a total mess out of it.

babanovac wrote: »

Collision detection in Warhammer Online was awesome. It's one of the few things that made that game special. It's probably the only game where tanks actually had a role in PvP. Shield Wall FTW!

But yeah, since ESO servers can't even take the current load, i doubt they would be able to take CD too. And anyway, those hopes were destroyed in the beginning when the devs specifically stated there would be no collision detection.

Get off the forums and start leveling you slacker

P.S.: warpriest is op

Taonnor wrote: »

Red starts today with 30-40 peoples, running as large turtle with emperor inside. They raided hole map red. The turtle ported between keeps and stand against 2 other alliances at same time.

They used massive broken skills (negation, stacking barrier, DK, etc.). They run into 4 oils and killed all peoples in ~1-2s. They loosed no hp, because stacked barrier (alliance skill ~1200 dmg shield on group, can multiple stack).

Im so tired against these 1 button zerging...

PLS stop that turtling Zenimax!!

I dont want GW 2.5

Sadly we all knew this was coming with the AoE cap. Any MMO with an AoE cap in large scale PvP devolves into nothing more than stacking cheats.

Because apparently, AoE is best countered by standing on top of eachother, which makes TOTAL SENSE. Not.

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

RaZaddha wrote: »

Wow, can you please record it? I want a reason to point and laugh at a stupid RvR system, plus some people still believe AoE caps won't start turtle wars.

This is my PvP server... and Me is one that you speak.

THE OIL EFFECTS HAVE NO EFFECT VRS VETS! THIS HAS BEEN IN THE GAME FROM THE BEGINNING! In fact without AoE cap limits to be in place healing would be even more OP. Blue used to do this on this server as well: Stack up and charge right in past oils.

This has nothing to do with turtling. My faction has "figured out" that using destro/restro staff and DK/templars can steamroll everything. It has nothing to do with turtling. They could do it with less players in theory but EP is always high in pop. What you are seeing is simply "an exploit of game mechanics"... nothing to do with AoE cap limits.

Why do weaklings always assume everything is an exploit.
If ur too weak to deal with the situation. Then please shut the F up and suck it up.

ppl did the same with Vampire, They cried like little girl scouts.
Instead of thinking.... Hey, I got atleast 10 skillsavalible to me that counter them.


I think I saw max 1 out of every 200 use Backlash or any of the 15-30 spells that are OP enough to wipe out any Vampire.
(And Emperors, even Vampire DK Emperors goddamnit ppl T-H-I-N-K)


Turtle?Not as easy, BUT If u got a guild. Then Just grab a notepad & read this to your guild during next fight against blob tactics.

Here's the skills used to counter, you figure out who uses what. And when.

Volcanic Rune, DK Grab, Atronach for AoE stun,
that fear from Sorc skill line. Just to name a few.
Enemy got too much HP?
have a few Pulsars In group soon their max HP will be low enough for a Crit to 1 shot them.

ever heard of Negate magica? cause u pop that and send ur DK in with Talons & SoM and then have other sorc pop Atronach? Bee Oh B00M their all dead.

btw, took me around.. well, think It took me 1-2 min to type that all in.
And I got that strategy worked up In less than 10 seconds as I was typing. Seriously ppl. You got a brain.
It's Twenty fourteen already... Use ur knowledge from other games and come up with a *** strategy of your own to counter ***...
And no, Forum bitching & ZoS D sucking Is not a strategy.



Oh and 1 more thing... Please refrain from saying *** about ''OP, Exploit''
Unless u got proof you had atleast 20+ ORGANIZED people.
oh and pugs don't count. If ur members came from /z.
Then you deserved to get some *** penetration
24/7 In Cyrodiil all year round.

Tip of the day. Don't whine If ur pug you got up In 1-2 minutes couldn't beat a guild that has been playing together for 1 month upto 15+ year old guilds.
You really think that the random person next to u knows ur next move? Knows how to act around u?
Cause I'm still learning stuff about my guildmates of 2 months.
While a 10/15 year old guild. They know each other inside out.
They know each others Skill builds better than their own.
They know that If they see an enemy Joe will use his Backlash immediatly while Carlos will use his Sorc fear.
And Robbie will pop up from behind the enemy with backlash with his NB sneaks
and nuke It down almost b4 Backlash procs and kills the guy then Robert & Finch will come and use Talons & Pulsar on the guys that got feared. If there's more alive afterwards Carlos has His Sorc ultimate up and AoE stuns them all on same time as Robert & Finch pop SoM.

^All names were randomly generated In my head for the sake of showing u how a old Elite guild could know b4 what they will do. They have been playing together for 15 *** years. They know each other better than their Kids & wifes.
Cause the lord knows a gamers wife needs somone else to give her the daily D
vitamins. jk, I'm a gamer myself. But we all make time for our girls.
Atleast I hope we all do..
Cause recent studies show that Chinese & Japanese are slowly dying out cause young males dont bother with girls while girls prefer sex toys.

Well, not dying out. was used In different words but couldn't figure out.
the news article was in Icelandic ;P


Peace out. Hope u learned something new, Cause u should aim to learn 3 new things everyday.

Is this seriously a thread complaining about people using a specific tactic in PvP?