Feedback On Console Environmental Sustainability Features

D4rk · February 4

Fakeinit wrote: »

Could addons create a toggle or disable these sustainability features?

I'm ignorant to the development of addons so I don't know if this is in the realm of possibility for what they can do...

Update 45 PTS is testing console add-ons.

katanagirl1 · February 6

Fakeinit wrote: »

Could addons create a toggle or disable these sustainability features?

I'm ignorant to the development of addons so I don't know if this is in the realm of possibility for what they can do...

Ah, wasn’t there an addon or some way to disable this on PC? Or was it editing a line of code? I can’t remember.

D4rk · February 6

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Fakeinit wrote: »

Could addons create a toggle or disable these sustainability features?

I'm ignorant to the development of addons so I don't know if this is in the realm of possibility for what they can do...

Ah, wasn’t there an addon or some way to disable this on PC? Or was it editing a line of code? I can’t remember.

From what i remember people were talking about changing something in the game files. That's all.

katanagirl1 · February 7

D4rk wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Fakeinit wrote: »

Could addons create a toggle or disable these sustainability features?

I'm ignorant to the development of addons so I don't know if this is in the realm of possibility for what they can do...

Ah, wasn’t there an addon or some way to disable this on PC? Or was it editing a line of code? I can’t remember.

From what i remember people were talking about changing something in the game files. That's all.

I was hoping it was an addon since it looks like we are getting them soon.

sans-culottes · February 7

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all. We're gathering some feedback regarding the Environmental Sustainability Features added in U42. Specifically, we would like feedback on the following patch note:
Reduced GPU use in Contextual Menus (Xbox Series X|S and PS5): When viewing most menus, (eg. managing inventory, achievements, quest journal, etc) framerate is now capped to 30fps. Some menus are exempt on a case-by-case basis (eg. conversations, various mini-games). Testing in Performance Mode while in these menus shows a 50% reduction in GPU consumption, resulting in overall power consumption going from approximately 63% of the maximum possible on a console down to 37%.

We're seeing your feedback about menus capped to 30fps is causing issues for some of you. Please let us know how it is impacting your play experience. We are sharing this with our teams to better inform them of your feedback and how we can improve the experience overall. Additionally, if you are experiencing other framerate issues with either your menus or player character, please note those here as well. Thanks, all.

@ZOS_Kevin, how much more “evidence” do you need? Why are console players still forced to use this “feature”?

D4rk · February 11

sans-culottes wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all. We're gathering some feedback regarding the Environmental Sustainability Features added in U42. Specifically, we would like feedback on the following patch note:
Reduced GPU use in Contextual Menus (Xbox Series X|S and PS5): When viewing most menus, (eg. managing inventory, achievements, quest journal, etc) framerate is now capped to 30fps. Some menus are exempt on a case-by-case basis (eg. conversations, various mini-games). Testing in Performance Mode while in these menus shows a 50% reduction in GPU consumption, resulting in overall power consumption going from approximately 63% of the maximum possible on a console down to 37%.

We're seeing your feedback about menus capped to 30fps is causing issues for some of you. Please let us know how it is impacting your play experience. We are sharing this with our teams to better inform them of your feedback and how we can improve the experience overall. Additionally, if you are experiencing other framerate issues with either your menus or player character, please note those here as well. Thanks, all.

@ZOS_Kevin, how much more “evidence” do you need? Why are console players still forced to use this “feature”?

No more evidence needed, and it was never needed too. This thread was created because that's the usual procedure when changes like this happen, but our feedback won't be used.

We are unsatisfied with the feature, that's our feedback, but it doesn't matter to them, because we will have to endure this no matter what.

sans-culottes · February 12

D4rk wrote: »

sans-culottes wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all. We're gathering some feedback regarding the Environmental Sustainability Features added in U42. Specifically, we would like feedback on the following patch note:
Reduced GPU use in Contextual Menus (Xbox Series X|S and PS5): When viewing most menus, (eg. managing inventory, achievements, quest journal, etc) framerate is now capped to 30fps. Some menus are exempt on a case-by-case basis (eg. conversations, various mini-games). Testing in Performance Mode while in these menus shows a 50% reduction in GPU consumption, resulting in overall power consumption going from approximately 63% of the maximum possible on a console down to 37%.

We're seeing your feedback about menus capped to 30fps is causing issues for some of you. Please let us know how it is impacting your play experience. We are sharing this with our teams to better inform them of your feedback and how we can improve the experience overall. Additionally, if you are experiencing other framerate issues with either your menus or player character, please note those here as well. Thanks, all.

@ZOS_Kevin, how much more “evidence” do you need? Why are console players still forced to use this “feature”?

No more evidence needed, and it was never needed too. This thread was created because that's the usual procedure when changes like this happen, but our feedback won't be used.

We are unsatisfied with the feature, that's our feedback, but it doesn't matter to them, because we will have to endure this no matter what.

As with the Necromancer class—a paid class, by the way—the lack of any communication at all on this subject is telling. They’ve been quick to respond to plenty of other posts. Curious why these ones have been ignored by, say, @ZOS_Kevin.

Hrolthar · February 12

I don't endure it too much. But then again I only log in to quickly grab the free daily reward and use up some enlightenment once a week.

Rexicom · March 26

Another update and this still isn't a toggle. I keep getting headaches everytime I got to my inventory, champion points etc. Seriously, why is this a thing, and why only for console players?

SkaiFaith · March 26

Rexicom wrote: »

Another update and this still isn't a toggle. I keep getting headaches everytime I got to my inventory, champion points etc. Seriously, why is this a thing, and why only for console players?

I just read this and I can't wait to verify; hopefully the strobe and "stutter" got fixed!

EDIT: aaand it seems it finally got fixed for good, everything works fine on my end

katanagirl1 · April 2

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Rexicom wrote: »

Another update and this still isn't a toggle. I keep getting headaches everytime I got to my inventory, champion points etc. Seriously, why is this a thing, and why only for console players?

I just read this and I can't wait to verify; hopefully the strobe and "stutter" got fixed!

EDIT: aaand it seems it finally got fixed for good, everything works fine on my end

Sounds like it is still 30 fps though. I don’t like my hardware throttled back when I am actively playing it.

SkaiFaith · April 2

katanagirl1 wrote: »

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Rexicom wrote: »

Another update and this still isn't a toggle. I keep getting headaches everytime I got to my inventory, champion points etc. Seriously, why is this a thing, and why only for console players?

I just read this and I can't wait to verify; hopefully the strobe and "stutter" got fixed!

EDIT: aaand it seems it finally got fixed for good, everything works fine on my end

Sounds like it is still 30 fps though. I don’t like my hardware throttled back when I am actively playing it.

Absolutely fair opinion and one with which I agree as probably most people in this thread.
Still, I don't think we'll see changes about that, sadly... It feels much like a "corporate decision", not a dev one.

Rexicom · April 2

katanagirl1 wrote: »

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Rexicom wrote: »

Another update and this still isn't a toggle. I keep getting headaches everytime I got to my inventory, champion points etc. Seriously, why is this a thing, and why only for console players?

I just read this and I can't wait to verify; hopefully the strobe and "stutter" got fixed!

EDIT: aaand it seems it finally got fixed for good, everything works fine on my end

Sounds like it is still 30 fps though. I don’t like my hardware throttled back when I am actively playing it.

Exactly, it's still 30 FPS, they just "fixed" issues with it, but nothing really changed. This needs to be a toggle.

katanagirl1 · April 3

SkaiFaith wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Rexicom wrote: »

Another update and this still isn't a toggle. I keep getting headaches everytime I got to my inventory, champion points etc. Seriously, why is this a thing, and why only for console players?

I just read this and I can't wait to verify; hopefully the strobe and "stutter" got fixed!

EDIT: aaand it seems it finally got fixed for good, everything works fine on my end

Sounds like it is still 30 fps though. I don’t like my hardware throttled back when I am actively playing it.

Absolutely fair opinion and one with which I agree as probably most people in this thread.
Still, I don't think we'll see changes about that, sadly... It feels much like a "corporate decision", not a dev one.

I agree. I just choose to voice my displeasure at it at every opportunity.

Sadras · April 12

This is still an issue on XBOX. My main problem is that the screen goes blurry after a few moments of being afk, which I do a lot because I keep the game running while having to attend to IRL things on and off. So whenever I look back at the screen, the blurry screen causes eye strain and therefore headaches or migraines on bad days.
This has nothing to do with the screen saving function that the XBOX already has, which turns the screen darker and puts an overlay image (showing possible future achievements) on top. This one is fine and should be enough, and all games have it. I don't understand why you're putting this extra blurry filter on the game when the console already has a screensaver function, and after all this negative feedback. And as others have said, it also doesn't make sense for only console to have this.
I urgently implore you to turn this off or make it a toggle; this is unacceptable, causes nothing but grief, and goes against accessibility principles.

EvolvedMonkey97 · April 16

In a game with such a heavy emphasis on inventory management without a craft bag, the 30fps menus are very jarring and cause headaches and eyestrain over a gaming session. Opening the menu always retains the optimal 60fps state for a second or two before slowing down which also compounds this effect. Call of Duty has this same feature but allows an option in the settings menu to turn it off. Please make this feature a toggle. As it stands, I have not played ESO since this rolled out. Not because I don't want to, but because it brings me physical discomfort to do so. Unless there is some form of character transfer in the future to allow moving progress to PC, I will not be playing anymore, and I've been playing since Xbox launch 10 years ago.

Twohothardware · April 24

This sustainability change needs to be rolled back. Not only is the 30 fps dip when using menus and the map poorly implemented and annoying but you guys introduced an audio lag bug on PS5 with the Gold Road chapter that still hasn’t been fixed.

Gameplay sounds will just randomly drop out for anywhere from a half second to a few seconds when in combat or even just looting containers and enemies. Never had the issue in years of playing ESO on console until Gold Road.

SkaiFaith · July 8

Today on PTS: options to enable/disable/regulate some energy sustainability features.

Rejoice!

CAB_Life · July 9

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Today on PTS: options to enable/disable/regulate some energy sustainability features.

Rejoice!

Let's not assume they'll add this to console. They often cut off their nose to spite their face. However, if it's part of the UI, this means it can be changed with add-ons.

Rexicom · July 14

CAB_Life wrote: »

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Today on PTS: options to enable/disable/regulate some energy sustainability features.

Rejoice!

Let's not assume they'll add this to console. They often cut off their nose to spite their face. However, if it's part of the UI, this means it can be changed with add-ons.

EDIT: NVM, PC has some too, I could swear I read console though

Sadras · August 9

I'm just coming back after a break; I don't find any options on XBOX yet, has this been implemented already? I couldn't find anything with add-ons either.

SkaiFaith · August 9

Sadras wrote: »

I'm just coming back after a break; I don't find any options on XBOX yet, has this been implemented already? I couldn't find anything with add-ons either.

Should be in Update 47, coming soon. We'll see, but it would be nice to have a confirmation from devs that those options are coming to consoles too...

Sadras · August 9

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Should be in Update 47, coming soon. We'll see, but it would be nice to have a confirmation from devs that those options are coming to consoles too...

Thanks! That gives me hope.

The eye-strain really is bad. All this makes me do when I have to pause for a moment is keep nudging the joystick whenever it starts to get out of that mode again and prevent migraines. This cannot be the purpose; the whole thing is such a detrimental and pointless feature. The sooner we can turn it off the better.

@ZOS_Kevin Could we get a confirmation that this is coming to console, and will it be with the same patch?

CAB_Life · August 11

It really is an atrocious and unnecessary implementation. As if people’s consoles have any measurable effect on global warming—this is the ultimate luxury belief. I really hope we can get rid of it and update 47; they seem to be moving in a pro-consumer direction so we’ll see.

SkaiFaith · September 4

Finally...!

demonology89 · September 4

Yes, with U47 it is now toggable. Thank you!