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Rapport sources for Tanlorin and Zerith-var (feel free to contribute)
Maitsukas
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This thread is for collecting all possible sources of Rapport for the two new Companions. Please use the following add-on to get the exact values: https://esoui.com/downloads/info3103-ImprovedCompanionRapportInformation.html
Tanlorin:
Zerith-var:
Edited by Maitsukas on 27 March 2025 14:43 Tanlorin:
- +125 Complete a Fighters Guild Daily Quest
- +125 Complete an Alchemy Crafting Writ Daily Quest
- +25 Scribe a Grimoire
- +10 Use a Mystery Verse Scroll in the Infinite Archive
- +10 Use the [Persuade] option during NPC dialogues
- +10 Visit a Mundus Stone
- +5/+1 Complete a Holiday Event Daily Quest (Jester's Festival, Zeal of Zenithar, Witches Festival, New Life Festival)
- +5 Craft any Furnishing item
- +5 Craft a wine at a Provisioning Station
- +5 Drink wine
- +5 Successfully lockpick any container
- +5 Use an Ayleid Well
- +5 Visit Alinor in Summerset
- +5/+1 Harvest a flower
- +5 Use the Antiquarian's Eye Tool at a dig site
- +5 Absorb a Skyshard
- +1 Learn a Furnishing Recipe
- +1 Mount an Indrik
- +1 Kill Daedra
- +1 Kill Maormer
- +1 Obtain a Verse in the Infinite Archive
- +1 Obtain a Scribing Script (+5?)
- +1 Pickpocket Nobles and Merchants
- +1 Fill a Soul Gem
- -1 Loot a Psijic Portal
- -1 Enter a Mages Guildhall
- -1 Read a Mages Guild Lorebook
- Eidetic Memory books will not affect their Rapport.
- -1 Harvest Nirnroot or Crimson Nirnroot
- -1 Kill an Indrik (including World Bosses?)
- -1 Kill a Gryphon (including World Bosses?)
- -1 Steal Children's Dolls or Toys
- -5 Visit Eyevea
- -5 Visit Artaeum
- -10/-1 Murder civilians
Zerith-var:
- +125 Complete a Northern Elsweyr Defence Force Daily Quest (These Daily Quests are unlocked after completing the Elsweyr Chapter Prologue Quests (The Demon Weapon & The Halls of Colossus). The Daily Quests can then be picked up near the Northern Elsweyr gate in Grahtwood)
- +125 Complete a Tales of Tribute Daily Quest
- You can't earn Rapport for completing both Marunji's and Kishka's ToT Daily Quests in one day.
- +25 Complete a multi-part Antiquity
- +10 Complete the second Elsweyr Chapter Prologue Quest (The Halls of Colossus)
- +10/+1 Complete a Tales of Tribute match (doesn't matter if you win or lose, forfeiting a match will not count)
- +10 Consume a Purifying Bloody Mara
- +10 Unearth an Antiquity
- +10 Heal yourself while in a critical state (red edges on the screen)
- +10/+1 Kill a Dragon
- +10 Acquire the Werewolf Skill Line (triggered for me with the PTS-exclusive Werewolf Maxer item, could possibly trigger by leveling up any skill line)
- +10 Destroy a Dark Anchor
- +10 Defeat a Marauder in the Infinite Archive
- +5 Defeat Tho'at Replicanum in the Infinite Archive
- +5 Visit the Baandari Trading Post in Malabal Tor
- +5 Harvest from a Water node
- +5 Loot a Heavy Sack
- +1 Kill a Vampire
- +1 Defeat a Cycle Boss in the Infinite Archive
- +1 Kill a Skeleton
- +1 Kill a dro-m'Athra
- -1 Fill a Soul Gem with Soul Trap and its morphs or with the Oblivion's Edge set (Soul Lock passive will not affect his Rapport)
- -1 Murder civilians
- -1 Steal Medical Supplies
- -1 Use the Blade of Woe on civilians
- -5 Visit the Hollow City in Coldharbour
- -5 Sell or Launder stolen items
- -5 Get a bounty from using Necromancer 's Criminal Act skills
- -5 Consume a Corrupting Bloody Mara
- -5 Use an Edict to reduce your active Bounty
- -25 Inflict other players with Vampirism
- -50 Gain Vampirism from the Scion of the Blood Matron quest.
PC-EU @maitsukas
Posting the Infinite Archive and Imperial City Weekly Vendor updates.
Also trying out new Main Quests, Companions, ToT decks, Events and Styles on PTS.
Posting the Infinite Archive and Imperial City Weekly Vendor updates.
Also trying out new Main Quests, Companions, ToT decks, Events and Styles on PTS.
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coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Would love to know what they disapprove of too. I hope ZOS didn't make them disapprove of basic game mechanics like so many other companions do.Hoping for more playable races5 -
Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i would primarily be interested in the +150 sources, as those are the only ones which really matter lolplays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
feel free to stop by and use the facilities7 -
IncultaWolf✭✭✭✭✭
✭Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.
He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.
Only sources I've found so far7 -
M1SHAAN✭✭✭✭For Tanlorin (will edit to add as I find them):- -1 Read a Mages Guild lorebook
- +5 Use an Ayleid well
- -1 Harvest Nirnroot, including Crimson Nirnroot (they say it gives them a rash lol)
- +5 Collect a skyshard
- -1 Kill an Indrik or Gryphon (check- world boss indriks/gryphons?)
- +5 Visit Alinor
- +5/+1 Harvest a flower (including water hyacinth, not including dragonthorn, not from satchels?)
- +1 Kill a daedra (note: not all daedra. ogrim for sure. maybe bestial daedra?)
- -10/-1 Murder
- +1 Kill a maormer
- +5 loot something of purple/gold quality? (procced from opening reward container) couldn't replicate this
- +1 Obtain a verse in IA
- +5 Obtain a vision in IA
- +5/+1 Obtain a scribing script from a Mages Guild (might not apply to scripts you buy, but did for a mages guild one and one from fighters guild coffer)
- +5 Use the Antiquarian's Eye at a dig site
The big ones:- +125 Alchemy daily crafting writ (check- alchemy master writ?)
- +125 Complete Fighter's Guild daily quest
For Zerith-var:- -5 getting caught casting an illegal necromantic skill (check- getting any bounty, on cooldown? dialogue was necomancy-specific)
- -1 Murder
- +5 visit Bandaari trading post
- +1 kill vampire / skeleton (cooldown not shared)
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BixenteN7Akantor✭✭✭✭IncultaWolf wrote: »Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.
He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.
Only sources I've found so far
Wait wait wait... You mean he dislikes when the Soul passive everyone has procs ?1 -
ESO_player123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭IncultaWolf wrote: »Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.
He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.
Only sources I've found so far
I beg your pardon, we should not take him into combat then? He will be always disappointed.
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coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Wow, these dislikes are basic game mechanics! Yippie friggen do! Guess I am skipping these.Hoping for more playable races7 -
ArchangelIsraphel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The fact that Tanlorin loses rapport for reading a mages guild lorebook, but gains it from obtaining a mages guild script, is so contradictory that it makes absolutely no sense. Just...why.Edited by ArchangelIsraphel on 18 September 2024 03:29Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
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✭✭✭BixenteN7Akantor wrote: »IncultaWolf wrote: »Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.
He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.
Only sources I've found so far
Wait wait wait... You mean he dislikes when the Soul passive everyone has procs ?ESO_player123 wrote: »IncultaWolf wrote: »Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.
He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.
Only sources I've found so far
I beg your pardon, we should not take him into combat then? He will be always disappointed.
I mentioned this in another thread, but the Soul Lock passive does not trigger negative rapport:
...while other passive Soul Gem filling sources like the Oblivion's Edge set do trigger the negative rapport:
Edited by Erickson9610 on 18 September 2024 08:22PC/NA — Lone Werewolf, the EP Templar Khajiit Werewolf
Werewolf Should be Allowed to Sneak
Please give us Werewolf Skill Styles (for customizing our fur color), Grimoires/Scribing skills (to fill in the holes in our builds), and Companions (to transform with).12 -
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✭I find it really annoying when companions start scolding you for normal gameplay things such as picking mushrooms or crafting something that contains cheese.
I don't even care about -1 rapport, it is just annoying to hear them complain all the time. No, Bastian, I am not forcing you to eat that Firsthold fruit and cheese plate, I am crafting it for my daily quest! Lol.
Using soul gems is also not really a choice in this game, any build needs them, no matter how lawful good they are. Nobody will give up their ability to resurrect or use weapon enchants because an npc doesn't like it.11 -
coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭PrincessOfThieves wrote: »I find it really annoying when companions start scolding you for normal gameplay things such as picking mushrooms or crafting something that contains cheese.
I don't even care about -1 rapport, it is just annoying to hear them complain all the time. No, Bastian, I am not forcing you to eat that Firsthold fruit and cheese plate, I am crafting it for my daily quest! Lol.
Using soul gems is also not really a choice in this game, any build needs them, no matter how lawful good they are. Nobody will give up their ability to resurrect or use weapon enchants because an npc doesn't like it.
Agreed. It's stupidly annoying and doesn't make sense at all, plus just makes all the companions feel like whiny little bossy people, trying to control the actions of another adult who isn't even affecting them.
I love Bastian and thankfully don't have to make cheese items almost never so I can generally safely use him since that'd be the only thing he'd complain about.
But I love changing my outfit, I need alchemy mats (so bugs, nirnroot, and mushrooms), I love fishing, my gear MAY BREAK because I am not micromanaging that *** just to make a NPC happy. I am repairing it when it needs repaired, it's my ***, let me let it break. I could go on because there's that many dumb rapport disapprovals but in the end it is just so grating when it affects core game mechanics like soul gems and outfit stations.Hoping for more playable races5 -
M1SHAAN✭✭✭✭ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »The fact that Tanlorin loses rapport for reading a mages guild lorebook, but gains it from obtaining a mages guild script, is so contradictory that it makes absolutely no sense. Just...why.
Yeah, I need to investigate more to figure out what the actual rapport gain condition is. I thought it might be acquiring any script, but I didn't gain rapport by purchasing scripts from Filer Ool in the archive. Then I thought it might be acquiring any purple/gold item, but I didn't gain rapport by opening one of the companion armor coffers I purchased from Ool either. But then again, I may have been on cooldown, and that could have explained the lack of rapport gain.
I'm very curious if there's a more general rapport condition behind the Mage's Guild script thing because I agree, as I currently understand it, it doesn't make much sense. The one interpretation I have stems from a line they said when we entered a Mages Guild, something along the lines of "let's just loot this place and get out". So maybe they see it as taking stuff from the guild and like it for that reason, like Azandar with Psijic portals?2 -
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✭✭✭✭That Necromancer companion seems to not only be against being a Vampire but he is against the source of power that fuels our ability to resurrect, how does he even react to a player Necromancer?
Well then, I guess he will have no complaints that he does not get revived when he gets killed by a random trash mob.7 -
Renato90085✭✭✭✭✭Zerith-var:+kill vamp/bloodfiend
+kill bone monster
+ finish Northern Elsweyr Defense Force daily quests(npc in Grahtwood)
+finish Dolmens
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Pevey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The soul gem passive won't proc if you don't have empty soul gems in your inventory. That said, remembering to always vendor or bank them could be a pain, especially for people who don't have the assistants.Edited by Pevey on 18 September 2024 19:400 -
M1SHAAN✭✭✭✭Upon further investigation, neither the purple/gold quality item nor the mages guild script rapport were quite correct. Obtaining a scribing script (at least from reward coffer or mages guild, didn't seem to proc from buying) gives +5 rapport, or +1 on cooldown. Other purple quality items didn't give the same rapport gain.1
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SunemeraldSoul ShrivenWhat I've observed for Zerith-var:- Vampire killing gave +1
- Alchemical water gave +5
- Zahari's Elsweyr Defense daily (the Grahtwood daily) gave +125
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When a vampire player is killed:Renato90085 wrote: »Zerith-var:+kill vamp/bloodfiend
+kill bone monster
+ finish Northern Elsweyr Defense Force daily quests(npc in Grahtwood)
+finish Dolmens
- sell/launder stolen items
Bastian - "You will be avenged!"
Zerith-var - "Sucks to be you I guess..."
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✭✭Erickson9610 wrote: »BixenteN7Akantor wrote: »IncultaWolf wrote: »Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.
He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.
Only sources I've found so far
Wait wait wait... You mean he dislikes when the Soul passive everyone has procs ?ESO_player123 wrote: »IncultaWolf wrote: »Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.
He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.
Only sources I've found so far
I beg your pardon, we should not take him into combat then? He will be always disappointed.
I mentioned this in another thread, but the Soul Lock passive does not trigger negative rapport:
...while other passive Soul Gem filling sources like the Oblivion's Edge set do trigger the negative rapport:
Thanks for checking this out.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭- -1 Enter a Mages Guildhall
- -1 Read a Mages Guild Lorebook
- -1 Harvest Nirnroot or Crimson Nirnroot
Well if I didn’t have enough reason to never, ever purchase Tanlorin I do now. It’s tedious enough leveling the Guild skill lines without her whining at me for setting foot in the building. And having to sit through Azandar griping about mushrooms the first time was bad enough, I don’t need a 2.0 version.#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
A useful explanation for how RNG works
How to turn off the sustainability features (screen dimming, fps cap) on PC7 -
SunemeraldSoul ShrivenNew Zerith-var Rapport
- Drinking a Purifying Bloody Mara gave +10.
(On that note, the character I'm playing is magicka based and I use the drink to keep my magicka boosted. They're not a vampire, but they still got the boost w/ that response, hence my assumption of the lowering stages thing since that's specifically stated in the drink's description. Any vampires wanna test his response to lowering stages?)
Tanlorin Rapport- Going to Eyevea gave -5
- Going to Artaeum gave -5
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SilverIce58✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Does Zerith react to soul gems being used for battle? Like would it be possible for someone to test and see if he reacts to Anchorite's Cruelty/Potency?PC - NACP 1125
Veric Blackwood - Breton Magsorc DC
Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
Iscah Silver-Heart - Reachman Magden DC0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sunemerald wrote: »
Tanlorin Rapport- Going to Eyevea gave -5
- Going to Artaeum gave -5
On this note looting a Psijic portal gives -1.#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
A useful explanation for how RNG works
How to turn off the sustainability features (screen dimming, fps cap) on PC5 -
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✭I just want a companion that says 'shall we go to the pub?' And then is lots of fun when we get there.
What's hard about that. I don't need opinions on everything. Why do they have opinions on everything.
Not that we can sit and drink together or anything because they don't SIT. Or drink.
Let them sit down when we sit, I say.11 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Has anyone tested Flax, or any other blooming non-Alchemy mats I might be forgetting?#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
A useful explanation for how RNG works
How to turn off the sustainability features (screen dimming, fps cap) on PC0 -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The negative rapport on both just ensures that I will never use them beyond just unlocking.
I like the unique story on both and I like the way the Khajiit uses Necromancy, that's very different but yeah... pass. A Necromancer who hates Necromancers and the other companion hates Mages Guild... which you have to enter to raise their MG skill line... bad decisions for negative rapport.
How does Zerith respond to the Scribing skills in Soul Magic if you choose the spells that add Oblivion damage and consume a soul gem?Edited by OtarTheMad on 21 September 2024 04:348 -
kaushad✭✭✭✭So which other dailies does Zerith like? I tried a Northern Elsweyr delve quest and he wasn't fussed. I'm guessing that he likes dragon hunts, but that's rather difficult on PTS. He also expresses an interest in the Infinite Archive, but I haven't tried taking him there, let alone questing there. Imagine if it were the marauder daily!1 -
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✭✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Has anyone tested Flax, or any other blooming non-Alchemy mats I might be forgetting?
I don't think the game devs have that deep of coding to differentiate between different levels of clothing nodes.Hoping for more playable races0 -
Renato90085✭✭✭✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »The negative rapport on both just ensures that I will never use them beyond just unlocking.
I like the unique story on both and I like the way the Khajiit uses Necromancy, that's very different but yeah... pass. A Necromancer who hates Necromancers and the other companion hates Mages Guild... which you have to enter to raise their MG skill line... bad decisions for negative rapport.
How does Zerith respond to the Scribing skills in Soul Magic if you choose the spells that add Oblivion damage and consume a soul gem?
i try Scribing skills in Soul Magic add Oblivion damage nothing happen4
