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Sorc is out of control now that there is no counter anymore.
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Niffo✭✭✭Nope, like I said before normally we roll with between 8-10 players. All of us are former DAoC players so we play pretty well with each other. We avoid the zerg but set up picket lines in the enemy zergs backfield and play blocking force for their reinforcements.
So you used to play DAoC and yet you don't understand the great importance of balancing things in a timely manner? Midgard melee trains mezzing an entire zerg and then stun lock killing them one at a time with no counters. Slow balancing will kill a new game quickly, if Bolt Escape being nerfed makes such a big impact as to cause Sorcerers be underpowered then the ability was too strong and nerfing it can let other skills be brought up.1 -
Kingslayer✭✭✭jobo11b16_ESO wrote: »Nope, like I said before normally we roll with between 8-10 players. All of us are former DAoC players so we play pretty well with each other. We avoid the zerg but set up picket lines in the enemy zergs backfield and play blocking force for their reinforcements.
So you used to play DAoC and yet you don't understand the great importance of balancing things in a timely manner? Midgard melee trains mezzing an entire zerg and then stun lock killing them one at a time with no counters. Slow balancing will kill a new game quickly, if Bolt Escape being nerfed makes such a big impact as to cause Sorcerers be underpowered then the ability was too strong and nerfing it can let other skills be brought up.
No its the knee jerk nerfs which ruin games at times. If they nerfed it too much and it caused it to be unpowered the class then its been nerfed too much. Bolt escape has counters i have had it done to me and i have countered it with the DK pull. This isn't small scale pvp where an ability like this might be considered OP as they could teleport all over the map. Given the Size of the AvA there is nothing wrong with it.0 -
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TY for your opinion based perspective, mine was also differently based. I quoted a PvAll census classes played, that has bee active since launch. It favored my argument that sorce is not the most played, and equal played at the very least class (and per the double census lowest played)... I started a PvP only census that has not yet shown different. I wanted to offer oportunity to an unbiased PvP only classes played poll. TBH I see every big sorcere name but many NB big names have not voted in the poll, even though they are the highest played on both polls.
There are factors that make any poll inaccurate. Forums users being a giant factor. But there is currently NO support that sorcerers are majority and barely considered equal play by all polls.
I am not trying to negate your opinion only show I have tried to offer a best effort to unbiased poll as possible.VR2 Ataxia - [NA] Veteran Dominion Sorcerer [Auriel's Bow]
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Sorcery and Mayhem online since 1999
Current PvP Class/Supernatural Census0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭None of this matters.
Get 8 people together at VR 10 using all capped gear and maxed out skill lines.
Join a server where you know no one really PvPs, farm the noobs around level 10-20
Enjoy the grief fest.
Rinse repeat
That being said, the Aldmeri Vice squad rather enjoyed our 2 hour 5 on 5 battle with the 2 VR10s, VR3, VR1, and the little 28 on Hopesfire today.
I guess it just goes to show that even numbers and teamwork are still OP. We are only VR1-5 ourselves, and we won more than we lost, and four of us there were nightblades O_o.
Sorcs are not OP, lol. They are the squishiest damn thing I have ever seen. Get a good crit on a snipe that you just hit mark target on as it hits and watch their health drop to almost nothing.
>_> Please. The class that actually gives me trouble is not Sorc, never has been, its DK. bashbash chain bashbashbashbash@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
Forum LOL Champion (retired) == Black Belt in Ballista-Fu == The Last Vice Member == Praise Cheesus == Electro-Goblin2 -
monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭ESO competitive PvP rule #1 is: Reroll a Sorceror, or quit the game.
They are out of control indeed, and it's the most broken PvP mechanic I have seen in YEARS of mmo pvp. Those who say there are counters are not realistic. It might work if you are lucky on BAD sorcerors, but sorcerors with a little skill = invincible, untouchable, and kill stuff while being so.
The fact that escape bolt stuns as well is just even more of a bad joke.
They need to give a 3-4 second debuff on escape bolt, so its not spammable and effective to use it on far distances.Edited by monkeymystic on 10 May 2014 14:260 -
Soban✭✭✭monkeymystic wrote: »ESO competitive PvP rule #1 is: Reroll a Sorceror, or quit the game.
They are out of control indeed, and it's the most broken PvP mechanic I have seen in YEARS of mmo pvp. Those who say there are counters are not realistic. It might work if you are lucky on BAD sorcerors, but sorcerors with a little skill = invincible, untouchable, and kill stuff while being so.
The fact that escape bolt stuns as well is just even more of a bad joke.
They need to give a 3-4 second debuff on escape bolt, so its not spammable and effective to use it on far distances.
Why? Last I checked ESO had no competitive PvP, just competitive whining.<BiS>1 -
BloodStorm✭✭✭magicka is the issue. Any class that uses light armor and magicka abilities mainly will *** your face. Stamina is pretty much useless at the moment. EVERY class does better with magicka. A good example is the nightblade. People complain how *** it is PVE later lvls yet if you have light armor and so on you can spam Shadow disguise a million times. What is the point of stamina when you can just spam Shadow disguise a millions times and barely get touched and also have 100% crit nonstop.Edited by BloodStorm on 10 May 2014 15:110
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RaZaddha✭✭✭DagothMacellarius wrote: »magicka is the issue. Any class that uses light armor and magicka abilities mainly will *** your face. Stamina is pretty much useless at the moment. EVERY class does better with magicka. A good example is the nightblade. People complain how *** it is PVE later lvls yet if you have light armor and so on you can spam Shadow disguise a million times. What is the point of stamina when you can just spam Shadow disguise a millions times and barely get touched and also have 100% crit nonstop.
The problem is how they escape with no effort, it's so easy to counter cyrstal shards with eclipse, but they always get away, no other class gets away so easily, not even NB, I counter NB stealth every day all day with smart AoE.Edited by RaZaddha on 10 May 2014 15:450