yeah i have a speed-capped-in-stealth toon with a lot of stealth detection radius reduction

my avg time to complete most heists is 1.5-3 minutes, depending on if it is the anti-stealth guards or the guards with the anti-stealth trap which is avoidable

you have a total of like 7-8 minutes to get a perfect heist, as long as you finish within the time you get the perfect, even if you do get spotted

just have to keep in mind that getting spotted or using the blade of woe is an automatic -1 min to the timer

my stealth character is set up using ring of the wild hunt + 3 pc of night terror set + 5 pc of darloc brae, and is a vampire to remove the speed penalty in stealth, and i also made this character a khajiit for the further reduced stealth radius

im using arena weapons to make it easier to facilitate gear swaps and add a little combat ability

i also have a little bit of +move speed from either swift jewelry and cp, but i know i had to tweak that as i was over the speed cap lol

its amazing using stealth at 200% move speed, and costing 0 stamina effectively (my sneak cost is like 10 stam per tick, and darloc brae restores like a couple hundred every second im crouched so i can stay in sneak forever)

this setup i use also makes it very easy to complete IC dailies, with high speed and stealth you can avoid killing mobs, or even blade of woe the basic dremora enemies

My elf's approach is entirely different. She goes in, bow ablazing, killing and looting everything she sees. She cares naught for the 'time limit' and revels in the fact that heists play just like a private instance delve with no other players to mess things up. And the loot is pretty good too (groceries) if you take the time to gather it. So she doesn't get the bonus for being sneakifast but still completes the mission and has great fun doing it her way.

Of the 5 heist maps, Hideaway is definitely the one I find the hardest to get a clean run on. The sentry near the northern lockbox took a bit of getting used to but isnt a big deal in the end. The real issue is that it has a lot of long narrow patrolled corridors, that just eat your timer in hiding spots to get past them, coupled with widely spread hidden caches that force you to use those corridors. I definitely build for it, but my combo of night mothers embrace, night terror, and darloc brae (5/3/4 on front bar) is cheap and easily accessible. There's a swift darloc brae ring available from a quest in the ashen scar which helps.

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

if you know where the lantern guards patrol and have a sneaky build theyre all pretty easy.

I am a bit clumsy in real life and it totally translates into the game too. In my opinion heists are THE hardest content in the game and no matter how hard I try, I can never do them cleanly.

Bastion Nymic? Piece of cake! Be sneaky and fast in a heist? Totally out of my reach. I have accepted this about myself.

Main thing is to be patient and have the necessary buffs to take full advantage of the scenario.

Hideaway -- perfect run with no cloak: https://youtu.be/xDaaYOLzvUQ?si=ORfY7sOqWJYpYAXS