This thread is pointless.

Everyone has different experiences.

Can anybody point me in the right direction where I can upload a video of some very noticeable bugs in Cyrodil last night that my friend experienced?

Is there a website that will host it?

I've been out of the tech-world a long time.

Ty

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

This thread is pointless.

Everyone has different experiences.

Isn't that the point of the thread?
Nevertheless, the people here reporting bad experiences outnumber the ones who have no problems. That should be worth something?

Yes. The different reporting confirms what has already long established: that anecdotal testimony is utterly unreliable without any emperical evidence.

But for the purpose of this thread; PC NA Greyhost primetime. Popped locked. 4 hours. 3 hours 58 minutes performance was fine, even when those pesky ball groups showed up. Cyrodiil was genuinely enjoyable to play because wasnt empty.

Inc. 5 people saying lag was terrible, got disconnected, skills wouldn't fire, end test immediately.

Have fun ZOS

Freilauftomate wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

This thread is pointless.

Everyone has different experiences.

90% of the people i played with ragequit ESO because of performance issues and bugs. Especially after realizing that nobody is going to fix anything, ever.

This thread might be the start of something beautiful. ZOS finally listening to concerned customers and listening to their feedback. Giving PvP some much needed love. Starting to fix broken parts of the game.

Or it's just another carrot on a stick to keep some players from leaving. Then yes, this would be pointless. For the players. Not for the company.

Joy_Division wrote: »

The different reporting confirms what has already long established: that anecdotal testimony is utterly unreliable without any emperical evidence.

... end test immediately.

So you believe asking your customers what they think of your product is worthless and trying to do better is pointless? Please correct me if i misunderstood.

Zos has been asking us for 10 years. Asks us every PTS. Lets just say the reputation for heeding feedback is not good.

It's not even being cynical to say that your hopes that this thread will lead to something beautiful is misplaced optimistism. That fact of the matter is there has been no pvp update in years, no pvp dev, and an established track record.

I wouldn't go quite so far to say the test is just a carrot. No. Performance has gotten better, and they are testing to see if it's better enough to make Cyrodiil better. The intent behind the test is genuine.

But that's ZOS'S story: the intent is always there, the resources aren't. Rich said himself he'd love to add pvp content, but everytime they have, they made the lag worse. So the lion's share of resources go elsewhere.

How i think they should have done the test is not tell us: remove the very real noise of confirmation bias, unrealstic hopes, irreversible cynicism, placebo effects, and the flaws in human memory. Asking for feedback is fine. There were better ways to go about it, to make it more worthwhile.

Freilauftomate wrote: »

Why is almost nobody reporting anything here?

Where are all the people who wrote long and meticulous reports about the performance issues and bugs in Cyrodiil over the years?

I think because this whole thing has been poorly advertised. There is no in game banner, most players ingame do not have forum accounts or use the forums, there is no clear idea of what exactly they want videos of, and what they're hoping to gain from those videos.

I reported my experience the other night along with several videos of specific bugs and explanations of the bugs, but those issues have been present for some time now. I can only imagine it will be difficult and time consuming for them to sort through what they do receive and to determine what is an actual bug, what is performance related, what is a result of the new testing conditions, and what is simply user error.

The other fact is that most people who cared enough to do these things gave up on the game years ago.

The performance is noticeably worse, but I gotta say that I'm having more fun in Cyro than I have in a long time.

I didn't notice a huge difference on GH 12/7 around 8-11 EST. There were some really rough moments in big fights, but there always are.

I did dc once and I normally don't, although it happens. And there were several ball groups and a hammer in the same location, on top of most of the rest of the population. It's always bad when that happens.

Outside of that it didn't feel a whole lot different to me and there was still a ~40 queue.

Tonight was the worst performance on PC NA since the server upgrade. It's gotten a little better as players log off for the night but during peak hours it was like the server upgrade never happened. 2-3 seconds for an ability to fire.

I didn't have too much of a problem tonight where I did Wednesday night. Others in my group did. Some said they have yet to have issues. I can see where it would be a hard thing to nail down for ZOS but at the same time; I don't sympathize with the long gaps of silence and seemingly no interest in trying until now

The performance in really big fights has been pretty bad. Lots of rubberbanding, and hitting skills 10 times to get them to go off, but IMO, the performance degradation is worth it. The map feels alive again in a way that it hasn't in a very long time. Part of that is down to the bonus AP for sure, but another part of it is definitely letting enough people in that multiple fights can happen and an allegedly poplocked faction isn't dead silent.

Ive been kicked 3 times in 20 mins PC EU Greyhost - think something is very wrong, took 10 mins to get back in at one point kept getting internal error message. the first 2 times i was near a big fight but the 3rd time i dont think i was, i just logged back in and the keep seemed pretty quiet but then kicked.
I'll give it a rest now though, and play something that works.

loosej wrote: »

Been playing GH on PC-EU since the test started, my experience so far:

• New servers handle heavy load better (or less bad) than the old ones, so far I've only been disconnected once during a big siege.
• New servers (or maybe the client by now) still can't handle certain fights. All the issues caused are existing ones that occurred before the higher cap: no barswapping/skills/abilities, audio stutter, game showing it's running 60fps but feeling more like 5, desync... Common causes are still big zergs of players (hammer fights for example) or certain ballgroups (seems some guilds put a heavier load on the game than others).
• Higher pop caps are AMAZING! It feels like wednesday evening (EU) they were at their highest, and discounting the game performance, it was the most fun I've ever had in Cyrodiil. Standing on the wall at Aleswell and watching the fight between DC and EP was just epic. This was no longer a skirmish between two groups of players, but warfare between two armies. Please please please ZOS, find a way have a high pop cap AND good performance. Because this is the game I really want to play.

I fully second what you’ve written. It matches the experience I’ve had yesterday and the day before.

I thoroughly enjoyed the most epic fights I’ve had in a mmorpg