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Next PvP Test: Disabled procs in Cyrodiil

  • tracksilver
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    To be 100% honest, they should make a PVP with a ruleset of All sets disabled. That way it is literally about what skills you're putting on your bars and how you use them that makes you good. Not about how hard you farmed the latest dungeons.

    A PVP with this ruleset would have almost 90% of players in it who want a fun pvp experience and dont want crappy unbalanced sets to ruin the gameplay.

    As someone who plays a fair amount of mag sorc, that's how you would get unkillable and unstoppable mag sorcs lol.

    And how's that, you wouldn't have any armor buffs, and you'd be stuck to using base skills only that have no buffs or bonuses from sets, monster helms/weapons.
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    You can already play nekkid if you want to, that always confuses the opponents. Pack no arms, but pack emotes.
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    Disabling sets would make stamclasses with health basedheals the meta. They will get the only viable to heal up and no gear favors stamina builds because of general higher tooltips and less skill cost.
    Especially with the coming increased health pool, no gear cyro would just make people not die as long as you have a non-scaling heal ability.
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    I don't know about disabling set, but if they really want to test no calculations, might as well give standardized stats. Almost what they are doing as you won't have a ton of choices. Just some people are going to go into the test clueless and have no idea what the hell is going on.
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    Should pretty well wreck bombers.
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    To be 100% honest, they should make a PVP with a ruleset of All sets disabled. That way it is literally about what skills you're putting on your bars and how you use them that makes you good. Not about how hard you farmed the latest dungeons.

    A PVP with this ruleset would have almost 90% of players in it who want a fun pvp experience and dont want crappy unbalanced sets to ruin the gameplay.

    As someone who plays a fair amount of mag sorc, that's how you would get unkillable and unstoppable mag sorcs lol.

    And how's that, you wouldn't have any armor buffs, and you'd be stuck to using base skills only that have no buffs or bonuses from sets, monster helms/weapons.

    Shields. Mag Sorcs have decent enough shields. And no one else would have armor buffs. Plus the mobility of streak. And the defensive and offensive nature of pets.
  • hexentb16_ESO
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    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Are you guys ready? :0

    Edit: Supreme PvP Leader Brian Wheeler announces their next PvP Test on mid February that will have "procs" disabled. What his definition of "procs" means that will be included on the disabled list is yet to be seen!

    Them disabling procs would probably be the worst decision they could possibly make.

    I don't really use proc sets but started really getting into pvp because they became such a big part of the pvp meta. Why are proc sets a good thing? They add more flavor and challenge to pvp. Before pvp was always the same and incredibly boring. Everyone just stacked stat sets and relied on the same abilities and strategies.

    Now because the proc sets are such a big part of the meta we need to think about our strategy and adapt to the situation. Most of us have not only adapted but also thrived in the new meta thanks to our skill level and dedication. Unfortunately some have been unable to adapt and have refused to change their strategies. Instead of using their free time to "git gud" they've chosen to either quit or jump onto the forums to constantly try convince ZOS to nerf proc sets for them that don't need to be.

    For example, sometimes I see people complaining about dot proc sets, saying they're too strong. Whenever I see this I ask about their heals and if they use a cleanse. Usually it turns out that they die to dots proc sets so much because they decided to go full dps and didn't bother slotting a single survival ability.

    To anyone reading this who hates proc sets in pvp I have a request. Instead of ruining the fun for everyone else please consider investing the time to learn how to deal with them. You'll find that pvp is far more enjoyable when you do. Its doesn't matter what the build is I PROMISE you that every build has at least two different strategies you can use to deal with them.
    Edited by hexentb16_ESO on 1 February 2021 19:49
  • techyeshic
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    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Are you guys ready? :0

    Edit: Supreme PvP Leader Brian Wheeler announces their next PvP Test on mid February that will have "procs" disabled. What his definition of "procs" means that will be included on the disabled list is yet to be seen!

    Them disabling procs would probably be the worst decision they could possibly make.

    I don't really use proc sets but started really getting into pvp because they became such a big part of the pvp meta. Why are proc sets a good thing? They add more flavor and challenge to pvp. Before pvp was always the same and incredibly boring. Everyone just stacked stat sets and relied on the same abilities and strategies.

    Now because the proc sets are such a big part of the meta we need to think about our strategy and adapt to the situation. Most of us have not only adapted but also thrived in the new meta thanks to our skill level and dedication. Unfortunately some have been unable to adapt and have refused to change their strategies. Instead of using their free time to "git gud" they've chosen to either quit or jump onto the forums to constantly try convince ZOS to nerf proc sets for them that don't need to be.

    For example, sometimes I see people complaining about dot proc sets, saying they're too strong. Whenever I see this I ask about their heals and if they use a cleanse. Usually it turns out that they die to dots proc sets so much because they decided to go full dps and didn't bother slotting a single survival ability.

    To anyone reading this who hates proc sets in pvp I have a request. Instead of ruining the fun for everyone else please consider investing the time to learn how to deal with them. You'll find that pvp is far more enjoyable when you do. Its doesn't matter what the build is I PROMISE you that every build has at least two different strategies you can use to deal with them.

    Because 5k magicka is a good counter to a free proc that can be reapplied with little time after, and do more damage than an active ability on someone who has to stack stam or mag and WD to even sniff, while coming from someone with minimum 35k health is totally balanced.

  • Kikazaru
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    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Are you guys ready? :0

    Edit: Supreme PvP Leader Brian Wheeler announces their next PvP Test on mid February that will have "procs" disabled. What his definition of "procs" means that will be included on the disabled list is yet to be seen!

    Them disabling procs would probably be the worst decision they could possibly make.

    I don't really use proc sets but started really getting into pvp because they became such a big part of the pvp meta. Why are proc sets a good thing? They add more flavor and challenge to pvp. Before pvp was always the same and incredibly boring. Everyone just stacked stat sets and relied on the same abilities and strategies.

    Now because the proc sets are such a big part of the meta we need to think about our strategy and adapt to the situation. Most of us have not only adapted but also thrived in the new meta thanks to our skill level and dedication. Unfortunately some have been unable to adapt and have refused to change their strategies. Instead of using their free time to "git gud" they've chosen to either quit or jump onto the forums to constantly try convince ZOS to nerf proc sets for them that don't need to be.

    For example, sometimes I see people complaining about dot proc sets, saying they're too strong. Whenever I see this I ask about their heals and if they use a cleanse. Usually it turns out that they die to dots proc sets so much because they decided to go full dps and didn't bother slotting a single survival ability.

    To anyone reading this who hates proc sets in pvp I have a request. Instead of ruining the fun for everyone else please consider investing the time to learn how to deal with them. You'll find that pvp is far more enjoyable when you do. Its doesn't matter what the build is I PROMISE you that every build has at least two different strategies you can use to deal with them.


    How about those who want to play pure stat builds and still compete at the highest level? No, that is not possible right now given what procs can bring to the table. These players want to have fun, too. I played both a proc and a non proc build and the disparity couldn't be more obvious. I can bulk up defensively with higher health and resistance, and barely sacrifice any of my offensive potency unlike my non proc builds. That is not balance. I have no problem with adding diversity to PvP, but the state of procs is just too good right now. We need a middle ground so both procs and non-procs can compete equally with each other.


    Mizaru


    “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
  • hexentb16_ESO
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    techyeshic wrote: »
    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Are you guys ready? :0

    Edit: Supreme PvP Leader Brian Wheeler announces their next PvP Test on mid February that will have "procs" disabled. What his definition of "procs" means that will be included on the disabled list is yet to be seen!

    Them disabling procs would probably be the worst decision they could possibly make.

    I don't really use proc sets but started really getting into pvp because they became such a big part of the pvp meta. Why are proc sets a good thing? They add more flavor and challenge to pvp. Before pvp was always the same and incredibly boring. Everyone just stacked stat sets and relied on the same abilities and strategies.

    Now because the proc sets are such a big part of the meta we need to think about our strategy and adapt to the situation. Most of us have not only adapted but also thrived in the new meta thanks to our skill level and dedication. Unfortunately some have been unable to adapt and have refused to change their strategies. Instead of using their free time to "git gud" they've chosen to either quit or jump onto the forums to constantly try convince ZOS to nerf proc sets for them that don't need to be.

    For example, sometimes I see people complaining about dot proc sets, saying they're too strong. Whenever I see this I ask about their heals and if they use a cleanse. Usually it turns out that they die to dots proc sets so much because they decided to go full dps and didn't bother slotting a single survival ability.

    To anyone reading this who hates proc sets in pvp I have a request. Instead of ruining the fun for everyone else please consider investing the time to learn how to deal with them. You'll find that pvp is far more enjoyable when you do. Its doesn't matter what the build is I PROMISE you that every build has at least two different strategies you can use to deal with them.

    Because 5k magicka is a good counter to a free proc that can be reapplied with little time after, and do more damage than an active ability on someone who has to stack stam or mag and WD to even sniff, while coming from someone with minimum 35k health is totally balanced.

    You're giving proc sets a little too much credit there. They are actually really balanced and anyone who beefs up their proc damage enough to be the primary threat is handicapping themselves in other aspects of their build. Usually they end up taking away from their survivability or overall damage of their abilities. Use this to you advantage instead of focusing on their strength so much and you'll find proc sets aren't as much of an issue.
  • hexentb16_ESO
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    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Are you guys ready? :0

    Edit: Supreme PvP Leader Brian Wheeler announces their next PvP Test on mid February that will have "procs" disabled. What his definition of "procs" means that will be included on the disabled list is yet to be seen!

    Them disabling procs would probably be the worst decision they could possibly make.

    I don't really use proc sets but started really getting into pvp because they became such a big part of the pvp meta. Why are proc sets a good thing? They add more flavor and challenge to pvp. Before pvp was always the same and incredibly boring. Everyone just stacked stat sets and relied on the same abilities and strategies.

    Now because the proc sets are such a big part of the meta we need to think about our strategy and adapt to the situation. Most of us have not only adapted but also thrived in the new meta thanks to our skill level and dedication. Unfortunately some have been unable to adapt and have refused to change their strategies. Instead of using their free time to "git gud" they've chosen to either quit or jump onto the forums to constantly try convince ZOS to nerf proc sets for them that don't need to be.

    For example, sometimes I see people complaining about dot proc sets, saying they're too strong. Whenever I see this I ask about their heals and if they use a cleanse. Usually it turns out that they die to dots proc sets so much because they decided to go full dps and didn't bother slotting a single survival ability.

    To anyone reading this who hates proc sets in pvp I have a request. Instead of ruining the fun for everyone else please consider investing the time to learn how to deal with them. You'll find that pvp is far more enjoyable when you do. Its doesn't matter what the build is I PROMISE you that every build has at least two different strategies you can use to deal with them.


    How about those who want to play pure stat builds and still compete at the highest level? No, that is not possible right now given what procs can bring to the table. These players want to have fun, too. I played both a proc and a non proc build and the disparity couldn't be more obvious. I can bulk up defensively with higher health and resistance, and barely sacrifice any of my offensive potency unlike my non proc builds. That is not balance. I have no problem with adding diversity to PvP, but the state of procs is just too good right now. We need a middle ground so both procs and non-procs can compete equally with each other.


    A build using just stat sets can be just as (but usually more) OP than builds that rely heavily on proc sets. I think perhaps you should take a good look at your stat allocation and maybe even get some advice from a friend? I've been playing since PC beta and even I need a second opinion sometimes.

    In pvp I never die to proc set builds. Usually I just out heal them with vigor alone. On the very rare occasion vigor isn't enough I'll use the cleanse I keep on my back bar. The only two things that can kill me in pvp is being outnumbered and someone with perfect stat allocation who has excellent ability burst damage and knows when to use their ultimate. Keep in mind, I'm not even a tank and my resist is 15k or lower.
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    where is the actual proof and patch note"s" showing that proc sets will be disabled for a test.
    i cant find it anywhere..
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    no such patch note exists
  • Kikazaru
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    no such patch note exists



    It's not in the patch notes, it's from the ESO reveal event that they streamed last week.

    Edit: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/889112322?t=4h16m9s
    Edited by Kikazaru on 1 February 2021 22:44
    Mizaru


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    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Gilvoth wrote: »
    no such patch note exists



    It's not in the patch notes, it's from the ESO reveal event that they streamed last week.

    Edit: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/889112322?t=4h16m9s

    ah, thank you
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    techyeshic wrote: »
    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Are you guys ready? :0

    Edit: Supreme PvP Leader Brian Wheeler announces their next PvP Test on mid February that will have "procs" disabled. What his definition of "procs" means that will be included on the disabled list is yet to be seen!

    Them disabling procs would probably be the worst decision they could possibly make.

    I don't really use proc sets but started really getting into pvp because they became such a big part of the pvp meta. Why are proc sets a good thing? They add more flavor and challenge to pvp. Before pvp was always the same and incredibly boring. Everyone just stacked stat sets and relied on the same abilities and strategies.

    Now because the proc sets are such a big part of the meta we need to think about our strategy and adapt to the situation. Most of us have not only adapted but also thrived in the new meta thanks to our skill level and dedication. Unfortunately some have been unable to adapt and have refused to change their strategies. Instead of using their free time to "git gud" they've chosen to either quit or jump onto the forums to constantly try convince ZOS to nerf proc sets for them that don't need to be.

    For example, sometimes I see people complaining about dot proc sets, saying they're too strong. Whenever I see this I ask about their heals and if they use a cleanse. Usually it turns out that they die to dots proc sets so much because they decided to go full dps and didn't bother slotting a single survival ability.

    To anyone reading this who hates proc sets in pvp I have a request. Instead of ruining the fun for everyone else please consider investing the time to learn how to deal with them. You'll find that pvp is far more enjoyable when you do. Its doesn't matter what the build is I PROMISE you that every build has at least two different strategies you can use to deal with them.

    Because 5k magicka is a good counter to a free proc that can be reapplied with little time after, and do more damage than an active ability on someone who has to stack stam or mag and WD to even sniff, while coming from someone with minimum 35k health is totally balanced.

    You're giving proc sets a little too much credit there. They are actually really balanced and anyone who beefs up their proc damage enough to be the primary threat is handicapping themselves in other aspects of their build. Usually they end up taking away from their survivability or overall damage of their abilities. Use this to you advantage instead of focusing on their strength so much and you'll find proc sets aren't as much of an issue.

    Lol yeah. All those squishy proc builds around from their lack of survivability. You're saying things that are not based in reality.
    Edited by techyeshic on 1 February 2021 23:04
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    No procs but still 239276 rapid regens ticking between 9 players....

    Yeah. The sets are the problem 😑
    Edited by red_emu on 1 February 2021 23:11
    PC - EU:
    Falathren Noctis - AD MagNecro
    Falathren - AD StamSorc
    Falathren Eryndaer - AD StamDen
    Falathren Irimion - AD MagPlar
    Talagan Falathren - AD StamDK
    Falathren Infernis - AD MagDK
    Your-Ex - AD MagBlade
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    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Are you guys ready? :0

    Edit: Supreme PvP Leader Brian Wheeler announces their next PvP Test on mid February that will have "procs" disabled. What his definition of "procs" means that will be included on the disabled list is yet to be seen!

    Them disabling procs would probably be the worst decision they could possibly make.

    I don't really use proc sets but started really getting into pvp because they became such a big part of the pvp meta. Why are proc sets a good thing? They add more flavor and challenge to pvp. Before pvp was always the same and incredibly boring. Everyone just stacked stat sets and relied on the same abilities and strategies.

    Now because the proc sets are such a big part of the meta we need to think about our strategy and adapt to the situation. Most of us have not only adapted but also thrived in the new meta thanks to our skill level and dedication. Unfortunately some have been unable to adapt and have refused to change their strategies. Instead of using their free time to "git gud" they've chosen to either quit or jump onto the forums to constantly try convince ZOS to nerf proc sets for them that don't need to be.

    For example, sometimes I see people complaining about dot proc sets, saying they're too strong. Whenever I see this I ask about their heals and if they use a cleanse. Usually it turns out that they die to dots proc sets so much because they decided to go full dps and didn't bother slotting a single survival ability.

    To anyone reading this who hates proc sets in pvp I have a request. Instead of ruining the fun for everyone else please consider investing the time to learn how to deal with them. You'll find that pvp is far more enjoyable when you do. Its doesn't matter what the build is I PROMISE you that every build has at least two different strategies you can use to deal with them.


    How about those who want to play pure stat builds and still compete at the highest level? No, that is not possible right now given what procs can bring to the table. These players want to have fun, too. I played both a proc and a non proc build and the disparity couldn't be more obvious. I can bulk up defensively with higher health and resistance, and barely sacrifice any of my offensive potency unlike my non proc builds. That is not balance. I have no problem with adding diversity to PvP, but the state of procs is just too good right now. We need a middle ground so both procs and non-procs can compete equally with each other.

    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Are you guys ready? :0

    Edit: Supreme PvP Leader Brian Wheeler announces their next PvP Test on mid February that will have "procs" disabled. What his definition of "procs" means that will be included on the disabled list is yet to be seen!

    Them disabling procs would probably be the worst decision they could possibly make.

    I don't really use proc sets but started really getting into pvp because they became such a big part of the pvp meta. Why are proc sets a good thing? They add more flavor and challenge to pvp. Before pvp was always the same and incredibly boring. Everyone just stacked stat sets and relied on the same abilities and strategies.

    Now because the proc sets are such a big part of the meta we need to think about our strategy and adapt to the situation. Most of us have not only adapted but also thrived in the new meta thanks to our skill level and dedication. Unfortunately some have been unable to adapt and have refused to change their strategies. Instead of using their free time to "git gud" they've chosen to either quit or jump onto the forums to constantly try convince ZOS to nerf proc sets for them that don't need to be.

    For example, sometimes I see people complaining about dot proc sets, saying they're too strong. Whenever I see this I ask about their heals and if they use a cleanse. Usually it turns out that they die to dots proc sets so much because they decided to go full dps and didn't bother slotting a single survival ability.

    To anyone reading this who hates proc sets in pvp I have a request. Instead of ruining the fun for everyone else please consider investing the time to learn how to deal with them. You'll find that pvp is far more enjoyable when you do. Its doesn't matter what the build is I PROMISE you that every build has at least two different strategies you can use to deal with them.


    How about those who want to play pure stat builds and still compete at the highest level? No, that is not possible right now given what procs can bring to the table. These players want to have fun, too. I played both a proc and a non proc build and the disparity couldn't be more obvious. I can bulk up defensively with higher health and resistance, and barely sacrifice any of my offensive potency unlike my non proc builds. That is not balance. I have no problem with adding diversity to PvP, but the state of procs is just too good right now. We need a middle ground so both procs and non-procs can compete equally with each other.


    Agree with Mizaru 100%. The proc sets allow lots of damage but also high health/defense builds. Its sort of a no brainer, I know I have heard complaints from players who are "purists" that they refuse to use proc sets, but then you see a lot of good experienced players hitting you with Crimson etc. . In the no proc test we will all go back to what we were wearing before the proc meta. For example NMA/Spriggans/Shacklebreaker will all be possible. The only difference is the best monster sets will be excluded. I guess you will have to use Slimecraw or maybe not use a monster set.
    3 GOs, a Warlord, and bunches of prefects etc-- all classes...I've wasted a lot of time in PVP
  • Larcomar
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    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Are you guys ready? :0

    Edit: Supreme PvP Leader Brian Wheeler announces their next PvP Test on mid February that will have "procs" disabled. What his definition of "procs" means that will be included on the disabled list is yet to be seen!

    Them disabling procs would probably be the worst decision they could possibly make.

    I don't really use proc sets but started really getting into pvp because they became such a big part of the pvp meta. Why are proc sets a good thing? They add more flavor and challenge to pvp. Before pvp was always the same and incredibly boring. Everyone just stacked stat sets and relied on the same abilities and strategies.

    Now because the proc sets are such a big part of the meta we need to think about our strategy and adapt to the situation. Most of us have not only adapted but also thrived in the new meta thanks to our skill level and dedication. Unfortunately some have been unable to adapt and have refused to change their strategies. Instead of using their free time to "git gud" they've chosen to either quit or jump onto the forums to constantly try convince ZOS to nerf proc sets for them that don't need to be.

    For example, sometimes I see people complaining about dot proc sets, saying they're too strong. Whenever I see this I ask about their heals and if they use a cleanse. Usually it turns out that they die to dots proc sets so much because they decided to go full dps and didn't bother slotting a single survival ability.

    To anyone reading this who hates proc sets in pvp I have a request. Instead of ruining the fun for everyone else please consider investing the time to learn how to deal with them. You'll find that pvp is far more enjoyable when you do. Its doesn't matter what the build is I PROMISE you that every build has at least two different strategies you can use to deal with them.

    I agree there's a little bit of L2P here. I'm amazed at the number of self professed hardcore pvpers here who seem to struggle to identify, cleanse / outheal what are ultimately pretty obvious and manageable dots. I think alot of it though goes to expectations and maybe, a little bit of a sense entitlement. I said something similar once and got told it was ridiculous people could just stick these dots on you while they were fighting two / three other players. IE it's not that people don't know how to manage these dots, they just don't feel they should have to. It slows down their 1vXing and they really don't like "potatos" being able to damage them or god forbid kill them while they're doing it. Either way, you're not going to get any thanks for saying this round here. People on these forums have a pretty clear agenda and don't like people contradicting it.

  • Kikazaru
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    Those potatoes with procs and no procs will always be easy to fight off and heal against. That's not the problem I have with procs. What proc sets (and malacath) does for a player's build is alleviate a lot of their weaknesses that one would have if he/she decided to go the route of just using stat dense builds. Any fight becomes trivial when the player have over 35k+ or more health, great sustain, and having a ridiculous amount of damage by timing their proc damage with class combos. The compromises that both style of builds exhibit is such a noticeable gap. If I want to have equal amount of burst as some proc builds, I would have to make a lot of compromises, defensively in particular, to reach that threshold. Proc builds mitigates that problem by a lot. That's why all the best players I know on PC/NA are rocking such builds. I mean it speaks for itself. xD


    I tried both procs and non procs, it's hard to go back to non procs when my K/D ratio is nearly double now lol. :s


    Edited by Kikazaru on 2 February 2021 11:52
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  • techyeshic
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    Kikazaru wrote: »
    Those potatoes with procs and no procs will always be easy to fight off and heal against. That's not the problem I have with procs. What proc sets (and malacath) does for a player's build is alleviate a lot of their weaknesses that one would have if he/she decided to go the route of just using stat dense builds. Any fight becomes trivial when the player have over 35k+ or more health, great sustain, and having a ridiculous amount of damage by timing your proc damage with your own class combos. The compromises that both style of builds exhibit is such a noticeable gap. If I want to have equal amount of burst as some proc builds, I would have to make a lot of compromises ,defensively, to reach that threshold. Proc builds mitigates that problem by a lot. That's why all the best players I know on PC/NA are rocking such builds. I mean it speaks for itself. xD


    I tried both procs and non procs, it's hard to go back to non procs when my K/D ratio is nearly double now lol. :s


    Well a high stat set for damage might be like 600 for magic damage abilities only in War Maiden a strictly offensive set with the strictest condition . A 5th piece in a proc will 2500 DPS. It's a gross difference in numbers alone before we even get to efficiency of the stat set having to cost resources on an ability along with a LA wave to get half of that per second, or to stack other DOTs. Or if you go instant damage, base damage is enough that procs add more still by a huge margin if you time triggering your proc with an actual burst combo. Add that to you can run more health and sustain with procs for damage and have health based heals

    It's not about if you can make stat sets; or in the case if this discussion; including stat "procs" work and kill proc users all the time and I run no proc stamplar in medium. I did have to give in and run 1h shield and forfeit my bow after resisting for year's. But a good player that's not just trying to get carried by procs and understands how to time them rather than just stand holding block or spam else drain and heavy attacks or whatever? They eat damage like nothing then turn and blow you up. Then you have fools on here blame heavy armor or tell you learn to play the counters. They are going to get slaughtered when reality hits.
    Edited by techyeshic on 2 February 2021 12:04
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    Pauwer wrote: »
    You can already play nekkid if you want to, that always confuses the opponents. Pack no arms, but pack emotes.

    This only works if there's a bear hug emote. :(
  • angelofdeath333
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    Bring out the salty bags!!
  • Sun7dance
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    Maybe you could deactivate the procc sets and then please just forget how to reactivate them?
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  • Gilvoth
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    Sun7dance wrote: »
    Maybe you could deactivate the procc sets and then please just forget how to reactivate them?

    as long as they do the same with healing and sorcerers shields then im sure would be fine.

    Edited by Gilvoth on 2 February 2021 18:11
  • Bergzorn
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    Did they mention a date and duration?

    Really looking forward to this.
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    DC Zerg Beacon

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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    I took procs off a few days ago. They are completely unnecessary if you know how to play correctly and you also end up outpulsing more single target damage with the added raw stats.

    Procs aren’t nearly as bad as people make them sound. Just move and don’t stand in red. The only one that is a huge pain is VD because the only thing wrong you did was stand next to someone.
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    Kwoung wrote: »
    Hope they give us a few weeks notice of what sets will and wont work so everyone can get their setups figured out.

    I wouldn't hold your breath, but who knows? My GH main is sporting Crafty/Spinners/Grothdar, so I will just swap out the monster set to Domihaus/Swarm Mother instead... and gain 1100 magicka and 2200 stam. Hmmm... 57K Magicka, wonder how hard that will hit.

    As someone who runs almost that exact set up now (swap spinners 2 willpower and 3 ancient grace) the answer is very hard.

    For every kill I didn’t deserve to get but did because of a proc set I’m getting just as many but actually making the kills.
  • iALEXi
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    This sounds like it's gonna be the best time since almost forever
    Okay, since sload meta started until now
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    Characters below:
    • EP - Khajiit - Stamina Warden - [AR50] (Kira of Ebonheart)
    • EP - Dark elf - Magicka Nightblade [AR30] (Kira de Nocturna) [PvE DD]
    • EP - Breton - Magicka Warden [AR30] (I Want Tø Break Free)
    • EP - Dark elf - Magicka Dragonknight [AR21] (Cejesti) [PvE Tank]
    • EP - Orc - Stamina Templar [AR20] (Kira of Red) [PvE DD]
    • EP - Breton - Magicka Necromancer [AR16] (Kira the Deathwhisper)
    • EP - Orc - Stamina Warden [AR15](Kira de Inferno)
    • EP - Breton - Magicka Sorcerer [AR14] (Cejezti)
    • EP - Wood elf - Stamina Nightblade [AR11] (Castalia of Ebonheart)
    • EP - Orc - Stamina Sorcerer [lvl 13]
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    Well, the official post is now live and only 18 sets will work out of the 400+ currently in the game. So yes, get your shacklebreakers ready 'cause it's going to be a wild ride. ^_^
    Mizaru


    “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
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