If stamcro isn’t heavily nerfed you may as we delete all your other PVP classes

Fawn4287 · May 2020

Its actually insane how easy it is to survive on this class, like annoyingly easy to the point where there is no reason playing anything else solo, it literally has the 5 piece bonus of swift integrated in to 1 buff skill, the dot mitigation is ridiculous and the heal on tether is like having a second permanent free vigor up. I enjoyEd the ease of 1vXing with it before everyone else jumped on the bandwagon but now its annoying seeing all the zerglings play on an almost unkillable class. Thats just the defensive side, throw in blastbones which is like a curse with major defile, pestilent colossus which allows anyone to put out an ult with the strength of a bomber and you’ve got a class thats literally too easy in PvP. Inb4 “necro healing!!!” or other ridiculous comments, this class has better healing than a stamdk with major mending up.

Alucardo · May 2020

People complain about necro healing when the tether is essentially a free vigor? I swear, my stam sorc would KILL for even half of their kit. I feel like such a potato in comparison to these new classes and all their flashy buffs.

oXI_Viper_IXo · May 2020

Blastbones is gonna be even more OP too with incoming healing nerf via battle spirit.

JayKwellen · May 2020

@chris25602 personally I don't want to see anything nerfed, what I'd actually like to see is every other class buffed up as to be equal in viability and power to where stamcro's currently are.

OrderoftheDarkness · May 2020

Don't waste your nerves, the next step is humility, as with magsorc. Only for Stamcro there are counters, and for magsorc there is no, while Nbs are weak.
P. S. Teleport strike and its morphs should give an Unstoppable effect for a few seconds so that Nbs has the motivation to pursue streak players and destroy them.

zDan · May 2020

I usually don't like calling for nerfs and nor do most people. But stamcro is just on another spectrum in comparison to every other class. I play every class and when I hop on stamcro it is hilariously easy, if you make a mistake you can easily get away with it.

Also the amount of average to bad players that have now jumped on the stamcro bandwagon are somehow good at the game now! Who'd've thought! But seriously whenever you come across one in a 1v1 scenario, you're likely to stalemate due to how tanky they are. The damage they put out is also scary too with blastbones, (major & minor defile) and if you're a vamp and they hit you with a dawny then good luck.

Overall they definitely need toned down a lot, but not to the point of being gutted like ZOS tend to do.

Chilly-McFreeze · May 2020

OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »

Don't waste your nerves, the next step is humility, as with magsorc. Only for Stamcro there are counters, and for magsorc there is no, while Nbs are weak.
P. S. Teleport strike and its morphs should give an Unstoppable effect for a few seconds so that Nbs has the motivation to pursue streak players and destroy them.

You can already have that unstoppable effect with every single gapcloser in the game. It‘s called CC immunity and is an universal mechanic.

DaveMoeDee · May 2020

Why would you delete other characters? The meta today likely won't be the meta in six months. How many stamcros do you need? 18?

Fawn4287 · May 2020

chris25602 wrote: »

Fawn4287 wrote: »

chris25602 wrote: »

magsorc here not giving flying ***...play your lane, survive and stop asking for nerfs

You should you’re next on the chopping block 😂😂

how many times has this already happened...i lost count...i assume it will happen again and i will still be killing meta chasers in cyro

Because Magsorc is pretty much always in the top 2 classes for mag and generally always a top tier solo class, when you think about it 2 wards overheals you to a total pool of 40-50k health and wards, combined with easily obtained 45k mag and a hard cc that offers the most mobility in the game, if it wasn’t for stamcro, magsorc would be the meta

Fawn4287 · May 2020

zDan wrote: »

I usually don't like calling for nerfs and nor do most people. But stamcro is just on another spectrum in comparison to every other class. I play every class and when I hop on stamcro it is hilariously easy, if you make a mistake you can easily get away with it.

Also the amount of average to bad players that have now jumped on the stamcro bandwagon are somehow good at the game now! Who'd've thought! But seriously whenever you come across one in a 1v1 scenario, you're likely to stalemate due to how tanky they are. The damage they put out is also scary too with blastbones, (major & minor defile) and if you're a vamp and they hit you with a dawny then good luck.

Overall they definitely need toned down a lot, but not to the point of being gutted like ZOS tend to do.

I see a lot of players that went from magblade or magsorc during pirate skelly meta, to magplars during dot meta that went absent for a patch and return with a stamcro, I don’t mind that there is generally an over performing meta but at least make it more than a 1 horse race

katorga · May 2020

Fawn4287 wrote: »

chris25602 wrote: »

Fawn4287 wrote: »

chris25602 wrote: »

magsorc here not giving flying ***...play your lane, survive and stop asking for nerfs

You should you’re next on the chopping block 😂😂

how many times has this already happened...i lost count...i assume it will happen again and i will still be killing meta chasers in cyro

Because Magsorc is pretty much always in the top 2 classes for mag and generally always a top tier solo class, when you think about it 2 wards overheals you to a total pool of 40-50k health and wards, combined with easily obtained 45k mag and a hard cc that offers the most mobility in the game, if it wasn’t for stamcro, magsorc would be the meta

MagSorc has mobility, CC, heals, and burst. That is all you need on any class Nothing else really matters. It is why the class hangs in there and competes with Stamina builds regardless of nerfs and meta changes.

Every stam class has mobility, CC and heals baked in. The only thing that makes one slightly better or worse is the ease of use and quality of its burst. Magsorc is the only mag class with all of that built in to the class kit.

The end result being nerf everything the forum complainers demand on stamcro and it will still totally wreck them.

WoppaBoem · May 2020

Very well put and I very much agree. Its stupid and I write this from a zergling perspective every clown now thinks they have what it takes to be small scale / solo players that all run around with BRP Stamnecro's with that monster set that gives minor defile and maim. The game feels horrible and so not fun.

Everyone is the same and there is no skill level. In the other recent meta's you saw a clear skill level in the meta build players with stamcro everyone is OP. This is the most pay to win I have seen in ESO so far and I am very close to putting down my swords and staves and stop with ESO.

Change blastbones to minor defile and lower spirit mender to 5% damage mitigation. This together with BRP change should atleast show who has skills. And when thinking about it, who made it up to give this class 2 HOTs 1 with stamina sustain and the other with 10% damage mitigation like wtf.... P2W is strong in this class.

MartiniDaniels · May 2020

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I will just repeat solution to streak, which I personally like and which won't be a nerf to magsorc:
- make streak blockable, but in case it was blocked apply off-balance. That way there will be skill-dependent weapon against streak spamming and on another hand magsorc will get some additional burst power against tanky targets.

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Chilly-McFreeze · May 2020

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

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I will just repeat solution to streak, which I personally like and which won't be a nerf to magsorc:
- make streak blockable, but in case it was blocked apply off-balance. That way there will be skill-dependent weapon against streak spamming and on another hand magsorc will get some additional burst power against tanky targets.

[Edit for bait.]

Kinda buff for mag sorcs? And kinda nerf for 2h stam sorcs, so practially most of them. At least when I left.

MartiniDaniels · May 2020

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

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I will just repeat solution to streak, which I personally like and which won't be a nerf to magsorc:
- make streak blockable, but in case it was blocked apply off-balance. That way there will be skill-dependent weapon against streak spamming and on another hand magsorc will get some additional burst power against tanky targets.

[Edit for bait.]

Kinda buff for mag sorcs? And kinda nerf for 2h stam sorcs, so practially most of them. At least when I left.

I don't play magsorc at all, but I hate being stunned without counter-play other then cc-pot and in the same time one magsorc was in dire need of off-balance, so we agreed that this seems like an optimal solution. About stamsorcs... I saw some good DW builds, those will benefit from such change. And if somebody wants to swing dizzies, we have meta classes for that.

Deathlord92 · May 2020

Stamcro is on a different lv of op very annoying to fight against on my stamblade.

olsborg · May 2020

Alucardo wrote: »

People complain about necro healing when the tether is essentially a free vigor? I swear, my stam sorc would KILL for even half of their kit. I feel like such a potato in comparison to these new classes and all their flashy buffs.

Yes, seems like ZOS is giving every new class a plethora of buffs and debuffs and while the baseclasses has a very select few, they actually take them away with every patch, lel.

Fawn4287 · May 2020

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No I play stamcro but yes magsorc is the next most overpowered annoyance and with changes to healing next update its essentially an indirect buff to shields, making magsorc even more op

daemonor · May 2020

Whatever I'd rather face 6 out of 8 enemy players in bgs being stamcros than magsorcs. At least they have to run in close for that dizzy swing after casting blastbones. Unlike these 3 dog magsorcs with their zoo up spamming execute with ele weapon light attack from max range fishing that frag proc waiting to snag that killing blow and streaking a million times the moment start approaching them.

Nerf magsorcs instead.

jecks33 · May 2020

Fawn4287 wrote: »

No I play stamcro but yes magsorc is the next most overpowered annoyance and with changes to healing next update its essentially an indirect buff to shields, making magsorc even more op

overpowered? magsorc? lol, you must be new to the game... magsorc was op before the big shields nerf and when they ran in full divine. Now magsorc is pretty balanced, it is the other mag classes that are unbalanced.

Just a question, how the healing nerf is a buff to sorc shields?

BaiterOfZergs · May 2020

Yeah stamcro is pretty powerful but it’s not really fun just to play a class because it’s the meta, seems very boring to me. I’ll play a class because I want to whether it’s the best or absolute worst. It should be about what’s fun to you and not about what’s meta or else the game isn’t going to be that enjoyable. But I guess people have the tendency to chase the next best thing in general.

Lole · May 2020

Yes go nerf 2handed weaponskillline

It’s not just stamcro overperforming, the unbalance is between mag and stam

Q_Q · May 2020

Fawn4287 wrote: »

Its actually insane how easy it is to survive on this class, like annoyingly easy to the point where there is no reason playing anything else solo, it literally has the 5 piece bonus of swift integrated in to 1 buff skill, the dot mitigation is ridiculous and the heal on tether is like having a second permanent free vigor up. I enjoyEd the ease of 1vXing with it before everyone else jumped on the bandwagon but now its annoying seeing all the zerglings play on an almost unkillable class. Thats just the defensive side, throw in blastbones which is like a curse with major defile, pestilent colossus which allows anyone to put out an ult with the strength of a bomber and you’ve got a class thats literally too easy in PvP. Inb4 “necro healing!!!” or other ridiculous comments, this class has better healing than a stamdk with major mending up.

I love my mag dk first of all.

Second, this is why when I walk up to someone to fight and they have a necro tether or start spamming a ridiculous amount of warden heals before I even begin attacking, I leave.

And as I hop away and their damage not phasing me, i have the last laugh.

Commandment · May 2020

Stamcro have the worst mobility in the game.

Sounds like a bad magsorc player got stomped by one qq letter to me.

ZOS_GregoryV · May 2020

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precambria · May 2020

Dizzy swing.

Jakx · May 2020

ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »

Greetings all,

After removing and editing some comments, we must remind everyone that all posts are to be kept civil, constructive, and within the guidelines of the rules. Baiting is a direct violation of the rules and is stated as such:

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Hi Greg how is the thread title "If stamcro isn’t heavily nerfed you may as we delete all your other PVP classes" not considered a bait? How is this thread not locked? @ZOS_GregoryV

Taylor_MB · May 2020

Jakx wrote: »

ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »

Greetings all,

After removing and editing some comments, we must remind everyone that all posts are to be kept civil, constructive, and within the guidelines of the rules. Baiting is a direct violation of the rules and is stated as such:

Trolling or Baiting: The act of trolling is defined as something that is created for the intent to provoke conflict, shock others, or to elicit a strong negative or emotional reaction. It’s okay and very normal to disagree with others, and even to debate, but provoking conflict, baiting, inciting, mocking, etc. is never acceptable in the official The Elder Scrolls Online community. If you do not have something constructive or meaningful to add to a discussion, we strongly recommend you refrain from posting in that thread, and find another discussion to participate in instead. It is also not constructive or helpful to publicly call out others and accuse them of trolling, or call them a troll—please refrain from doing so. If you genuinely believe someone is trolling, please report the post or thread to the ESO Team, and leave it at that.

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Hi Greg how is the thread title "If stamcro isn’t heavily nerfed you may as we delete all your other PVP classes" not considered a bait? How is this thread not locked? ZOS_GregoryV

Dude, not cool.
OP is stating an opinion that a particular class is over powered and backs it up with a brief but reasonable assessment.

If anything, you (and now me) are breaking the forum rules under this section-

ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »

It is also not constructive or helpful to publicly call out others and accuse them of trolling, or call them a troll—please refrain from doing so. If you genuinely believe someone is trolling, please report the post or thread to the ESO Team, and leave it at that.

noting that ZOS uses trolling/baiting interchangeably

SebDeTyra · May 2020

They are utterly disgusting. I refuse to play one though as they are also boring as hell and too easy and I can't stand dizzy spam.

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