Iskiab wrote: »

I should probably try heavy again for a higher health pool, but I’m finding crit good. With CPs stats are higher and you get the crit and crit modifier bonus. It allows you to devote a set to crit and with the shadow mundus you get nasty crits. Issue is moreso the sustain and defense you need as a magblade to be effective. Iceheart helps a bit but it’s honestly better on a class with less sustain issues, even with the extra crit mod from being a NB.

I managed to whack someone with an 18k onslaught doing something similar with stam plus onslaught. Impregnable armour is less popular and with the shadow mundus you can still get a 50% plus crit modifier against builds with 3k crit resists.

I've tried some onslaught builds and they work alright. It's just a little awkward what you do before and after the onslaught. So how do you play it, are you melee with concealed spam? Or are you playing a skirmish style with swallow on resto bar building mercy stacks. The pen is nice but you have to have a bow up or something to follow up big and hope the opponent doesn't just roll twice or w/e till the duration ends

Pijng wrote: »

CP distribution request

Hey guys, I've been playing no-cp for my whole eso "career". But a few days back I was signed up for some duel tournament and realised I don't have a clue on how to distribute my cps for pvp and especially for duels.

I'm running this build rn and I'll definitely use it on duels – https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=180530

Can I ask for help? Despite it would be perfect to get help for the whole distribution (don't get your hopes up), it'd be awesome to receive some hints/general advices as well so I can start with something rather than a blank sheet.

Thanks in advance

I play open world CP. By all means take a look at my current build:

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=183610

(1) Read up on CP jump points. It's not enough to know that they are rounded down. Look up the exact tables at an established site, such as Alcast's.

(2) I concur on 3K Impen, or close to it. You get there with Impenetrable gear traits + Resistant CP in the Steed tree. I tend to always run 66 Ironclad against burst, such as Dizzy, plus 54 Resistant. This gets you to 3K Impen and unlocks the last passive in that tree, the little block shield, which would incidentally stack with the Psijic block shield, if you were using that.

(3) Avoid Medium / Light / Heavy Armor Focus and Spell Shield. Those CP are inefficient. In general I only put leftover points into those. They DO become somewhat more efficient when you run a higher resistance build, e.g. a heavy armor build, such as yourself. Still I wouldn't put more than about 10 points into Heavy Armor Focus and Spell Shield. I did the math on that once. Also, with Onslaught prevalence, you are arguably better off focusing on Hardy / Ele Defender and leaving Armor Focus and Spell Shield at zero.

(4) Seeing as you don't run shields, you can avoid Bastion and go heavier into the Lady tree than me. The reason Hardy and Elemental Defender are unbalanced in my build is because I am a Breton. In your case, keep them balanced. Possibly as much as 49 Hardy, 49 Ele Defender and 40 Thick Skinned. I get away with less Thick Skinned, since Shadowy suppresses DOTs.

(5) Befoul is important when using Soul Harvest. I put 39. You have to check at what points this actually bumps up the Soul Harvest Major Defile tooltip, so this is about more than checking general CP jump points, but also Soul Harvest Defile jump points.

(6) The reason I go so heavily into the Lover tree is that I like the Windrunning passive. As a heavy armor build with no stamina and health regen to speak of, I would NOT aim for that. Leave Mooncalf and Healthy at zero, but invest decently, maybe 56 points, into Arcanist, and some - maybe 19 - into Tenacity.

(7) 56 into Warlord, 56 into Shadow Ward as a heavy armor build. The split between Shadow Ward (blocking) and Tumbling (dodge rolling) really depends on your playstyle, though. With your low stam regen, I'd favor blocking over dodge rolling. The rest of the green trees is up to you.

(8) The main mag-build damage tree is the Apprentice. Ele Expert 49 and Elfborn 56 is pretty standard for me. This stacks with the 66 from Master-at-Arms in the Atro tree. You want to push that to 66 to get the most out of Assassin's Will. With just one DOT, Thaumaturge is probably OK at 40, like me. Spell Erosion could be pushed a little higher than me. In theory, the math says the points can be pretty evenly spread between Ele Expert, Master-at-Arms and Spell Erosion for best results. With your low crit, you can afford to take points out of Elfborn and spread them elsewhere, compared to me.

(9) Some people pay attention to the Tactician and Exploiter passives. Perhaps not so much Tactician, but Exploiter on a mag build. This would fit in with a build that had more DOTs and some way to proc off balance.

Yeah it's a nice buff. Already has a flame thread in pts

HaruKamui wrote: »

fred4 wrote: »

HaruKamui wrote: »

Pijng wrote: »

Jeez, thanks a lot to you guys. I'll try this out, hope I'll find my golden spot.

Don't stress too much about it though. As long as the spread is decent, go ahead and duel/play/practice. CPs don't make a great player.

Yes and no. I play the same character on PC NA as on PC EU. On EU I am CP810+. Templar Jabs have crit me for 2.1K, maybe 2.2K at the most. On PC NA I was around CP350 when Jabs crit me for 2.9K in one case. I have NEVER been hit for anywhere near that high on PC EU. That's one hell of a difference. Same gear, same build. The only difference was CP.

I didnt mean that CPs didnt matter. I said, as long as the CP spread is okay, you'll do fine as long as you practice your character.

Never did I say that a CP 300 is not at a disadvantage against a CP810, check my comment again xD

Sorry, I knew you'd say that and you are right. I used your post as a springboard to go off on various tangents and, in doing so, I misrepresented what you said. Sorry.

That said, I do think practice / experience / gameplay is equally important to overall buildcraft (of which CP is a part) or maybe 60% practice, 40% buildcraft. When a noob hits me like a wet noodle, it's often the case that they can't string together a proper burst. On the other hand I also notice a huge variation, from player to player, in the damage numbers of individual attacks that I take from them and that I dish out to them. It's to the point where I sometimes don't know how people do it, when I look at combat logs. Some are flat out tanky, no healing, no blocking, yet they dish out huge damage. No I'm not talking about Corrosive Armor or Onslaught. I'd recognise that. It could simply be Fury, but all in all I am convinced there are still things I don't know about. Possibly bugs and exploits, like allocating your CP in a certain order, and so on.

I CAN pass on the things I do know about. I terms of CP I would particularly stress staying away from the Armor Focus and Spell Shield points, certainly while Onslaught and Corrosive are in common use. The Exploiter passive is another one of those quite strong things that some people integrate into their playstyles.