I mostly stay with Atronach (in light) because I can never seem to pace myself very well. It's amazing what the extra bit of regen does. I've tried switching jewelry to cost reduction and I know some people swear by it, but never seems to be as effective. Completely unscientific I know.

Oh, btw, before anyone thinks what's this guy on about, cleanse was broken on live for a while before it was hot fixed. Instead of only hitting 6 people like it does now on live it hit everyone in the group with hilarious results, easily the most OP thing I've ever played in an MMO:

https://imgur.com/AEnD655

Now that it hits 6 it's still decent, depending on debuffs the heal will top out at around 40k health per cast. I checked PTS and it's being nerfed into the group, it went down from a 14% health heal per effect to 6% so debatable whether it's worth a slot. Still, I like DW as a healer for the spell power. You can get some pretty good healing tooltips with it, and it looks a million times better than a resto staff. Main issue is light/heavy attacks but symbiosis turns all your light/heavy attacks into ranged regardless of your weapon, then the healing amount is tied to your stats. % health healing has been overlooked by almost all players but they're powerful; they can crit and benefit from % healing modifiers.

Here's a picture of the top end including crits.

https://imgur.com/5RatFOU

Iskiab wrote: »

brandonv516 wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

brandonv516 wrote: »

I tried out the Steed for a half dozen matches or so but then went back to the Atronach - I'm a sustain wh@re lol!

You play in heavy right? Makes sense, I usually go atro in heavy and ritual in light.

I have two Magblades - healer in heavy/damage in light.

For both I always return to Atronach lol.

You should try seducer out. I have one spec with 3x infused mag regen jewellery and 5x light. Even then I run the ritual mundus.

It’s not really a BG spec, and I tried it there and didn’t do too well, but for cyrodiil it’s my secret weapon OP spec. Ah heck, I’ll just post my cyrodiil spec...

When you find something OP it’s always dumb to share, but it’s also a cool fun toy you want to show off too. It’ll be nerfed this coming patch, and last mini patch nerfed it as well but you can make use of it on x-box. Maybe help me tweak it:

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=177748

Plus yes cleanse, even after the nerf it’s the best heal in game right now. I’m still messing around between orbs, dark cloak or evasion on the front bar. I’m also new to CP pvp and would appreciate help with my CPs.

@brandonv516

That build is.... interesting.

What's the purpose of spell erosion and staff expert on that build given that you are running zero damaging skills? Also do yo have any source of healing reduction to warrant putting 19 into befoul? imo it'd be better to put it into shadow ward.

I'm also having a hard time justifying putting a hundred into Elfborn and Blessed because of the diminishing returns but since every single skill you have is either healing or utility I guess you don't have anywhere else to put it.

Also, do you really need 4000 magicka recovery?

HaruKamui wrote: »

ESO rounds decimals down (in CPs) so 18.89% is the same as 18%.

Really? Is that true? Learn something new everyday.

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

I think my problem with ward ATM is the dot meta for people I groups. When I'm hightailing it from people chasing me I normally have like 3-4 dots on me. Once I cast that ward to cloak it's like half or gone in that one gcd. But Regen keeps ticking once I cloak even if my shield is toast

You dont have to cast the ward before cloaking when fighting dots. Just RAT or roll once to get away from the ground aoes, then cloak. Cloak will supress all DOT damage.

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

HaruKamui wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

I think my problem with ward ATM is the dot meta for people I groups. When I'm hightailing it from people chasing me I normally have like 3-4 dots on me. Once I cast that ward to cloak it's like half or gone in that one gcd. But Regen keeps ticking once I cloak even if my shield is toast

You dont have to cast the ward before cloaking when fighting dots. Just RAT or roll once to get away from the ground aoes, then cloak. Cloak will supress all DOT damage.

Oh I'm talking from a cyro perspective, I play cp campaign on PC na. Groups there all slot degen, splitting soul trap, and what ever other single target dot they have. It's the way they deal with people trying to run they just dot the hell out of you. I don't see too many ground aoes outside of the mornings when I can actually keep fight without lagging

Yeah I cyro all the time in CP PC NA too. But since i play solo, I usually avoid organized small groups. Plenty of other fights to be had, I'd rather not fight a coordinated one who're riding the dot meta or whatever the current toxic fab is.

My statement still stands though... If all they're doing is spamming single target dots, cloaking will supress all of those.

HaruKamui wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

brandonv516 wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

brandonv516 wrote: »

I tried out the Steed for a half dozen matches or so but then went back to the Atronach - I'm a sustain wh@re lol!

You play in heavy right? Makes sense, I usually go atro in heavy and ritual in light.

I have two Magblades - healer in heavy/damage in light.

For both I always return to Atronach lol.

You should try seducer out. I have one spec with 3x infused mag regen jewellery and 5x light. Even then I run the ritual mundus.

It’s not really a BG spec, and I tried it there and didn’t do too well, but for cyrodiil it’s my secret weapon OP spec. Ah heck, I’ll just post my cyrodiil spec...

When you find something OP it’s always dumb to share, but it’s also a cool fun toy you want to show off too. It’ll be nerfed this coming patch, and last mini patch nerfed it as well but you can make use of it on x-box. Maybe help me tweak it:

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=177748

Plus yes cleanse, even after the nerf it’s the best heal in game right now. I’m still messing around between orbs, dark cloak or evasion on the front bar. I’m also new to CP pvp and would appreciate help with my CPs.

@brandonv516

That build is.... interesting.

What's the purpose of spell erosion and staff expert on that build given that you are running zero damaging skills? Also do yo have any source of healing reduction to warrant putting 19 into befoul? imo it'd be better to put it into shadow ward.

I'm also having a hard time justifying putting a hundred into Elfborn and Blessed because of the diminishing returns but since every single skill you have is either healing or utility I guess you don't have anywhere else to put it.

Also, do you really need 4000 magicka recovery?

It’s for larger groups. 4k with that much reduction let’s me hit cleanse 8x in a row if I want to.

In places like keeps running through oil and whatnot the debuffs can pile up. The heavy attack on Symbiosis isn’t ideal because it only returns magicka if it heals someone so it’s inconsistent. It’s best use is light attack weaving.

If I was running with 6 or under 12 I could scale back on regen, but when groups clash purging is crazy important. The spec’s actually pretty OP which is why it’s been nerfed on PTS, for BGs it’s not ideal because it lacks self healing and people spam dizzy. It’d likely be good in small scale with cross healing.

Yea, my CPs are jacked. I’ll look into your suggestions.

Same, I think I’m a good player with lots of experience. In games like Rift I was the highest parsing rogue in the game but I’m old now and am not very good at dps in this game. I see videos of better players and so know what being really good looks like.

I basicly crutch on finding OP combinations for an advantage to play at the top end against better players on an even footing. If it wasn’t for doing testing and an astronomical IQ I’d be stuck in the middle tiers.

If not in full damage gear, cant kill without merciless. Nowhere near enough burst. Soul tether is proving dangerous but still have trouble managing stamina in melee range. Go in for a kill eat a cc, no good.
So Meteor is my go to ulti. Just ridiculous damage atm, with minimal effort, and fear is still 5 seconds, just takes a while to build up. Caluurion and force pulse crits still hitting for 90% of health on nontanks -- yet indeed impale is unpredictable.

Without cloak or purge dots wreck in outnumbered situations, but more so than Templars stamina sorcs are my hard counter this patch. Their speed and resource management is stronger though damage i admit about the same. Onslaught and hurricane are to be avoided at all costs.

Yup, I run vampire. Works well, not many MagDKs or fire damage these days. Biggest issue is vicious death.

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

i am a decent player on my best days, im uniquely ordinary, i have my moments when i screw up, double cast, kite to a stupid area, or many other dumb decison, but what ever its a game

Too many people think that this GAME, is somehow a reflection of personal SKILLZ or some inner mental or reflex superiority. So much of it is having good ping, a good build, and honestly some luck. Now don't get me wrong, there is a decent amount of situational awareness and decision making involved, and practice helps like anything. But I've encountered so many people who take every individual 0 hp state like it was some ultimate judgement on a persons self worth or value. I turned kill count off and just try and have fun and see what I can get away with, tag sorcs with stuns on the back line, gank a guy standing on the front porch of a keep or outpost in the middle of a group and all the guards. Go after that 50k hp tank and see if they panic. Well, that last one only if I don't recognize them.

On my magblade side, I have gone back to to swift and steed. Even then I've run into some the usual fast players who are stocked up on detect pots. But hey, it's all part of the game. I think Cyrodiil needs a massive revamp but I doubt the resources will be there to do it. They put the Hammer in which is in itself not a completely well thought out mechanic and really needs some work but there has been nothing since. That's disappointing.