Veteran players need to be more vocal

Ahtu · April 2019

My goal is to win the war for EP, yes. I want to end this war and wipe out any opposition that stands in my way. If faction locks help me with that, then so be it.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · April 2019

Ahtu wrote: »

My goal is to win the war for EP, yes. I want to end this war. If faction locks help with that then so be it.

Well then you can thank me now because I have the perfect answer for you.

https://youtu.be/6DGNZnfKYnU

Ahtu · April 2019

LOL. That's the only way you can beat a MMO. It has to die or you die trying. For now, I'm just enjoying the journey.

Ahtu · April 2019

As you're already aware since you have played there before, AD has already won on their PC EU Vivec as they win almost every campaign cycle. Inevitably, that's what will happen in PC NA as well.

idk · April 2019

@Ormtunge

Hard to tell what you were actually saying but it seems you were calling me out for saying that with faction lock we lost a great number of players back when we had faction lock and there was no reason to think a significant number of players would return when faction lock returns.

Your call out was that I did not provide anything to back up my words.

Well:

1. All campaigns had faction lock when the game launched and all campaigns were identical in length and everything. There was no CP
2. It was normal to have 2 campaigns pop locked
3. It required significantly more players to pop lock a campaign as Zos has decreased the pop caps multiple times since.
4. 2 years after launch we were only filling one campaign with the much lower pop caps. Faction lock was still in place.

There has been no sign of anywhere near as significant of a population decrease since faction locks were removed so there is no reasonable reason to think being a significant number of players back which was the point.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · April 2019

Ahtu wrote: »

As you're already aware since you have played there before, AD has already won on their PC EU Vivec as they win almost every campaign cycle. Inevitably, that's what will happen in PC NA as well.

I played EU since launch. It was a very sad day when the last competitive campaign ended in Jan 2015. I don't think that anyone should encourage the situation the EU server is in to be duplicated on NA

Ahtu · April 2019

I don't disagree with you as it will kill PvP and encourage PvE more. I, too, played at launch, but quit until the Warden class was released as none of the base classes appealed to me. Can you give me any details about how AD won so quickly?

Did the use DC's scrolls to go on the offensive against EP?

JadonSky · April 2019

Did I miss an update, when did they announce they were adding faction lock back? Also how does this work, does it only last for the duration of the campaign? I only play DC but just curious on how the lock works in this game.

When I played PlanetSide if you switched factions you were just locked for a certain amount of time before you could switch back.

Marcus684 · April 2019

Ahtu wrote: »

As you're already aware since you have played there before, AD has already won on their PC EU Vivec as they win almost every campaign cycle. Inevitably, that's what will happen in PC NA as well.

Inevitable, you say? That's interesting. DC was in 1st a few days ago, and as usual, were getting pushed to their gates by both AD and EP massive zergs, in spite of AD being 1 keep away from getting emp. It's almost like EP was more interested in keeping DC from winning the campaign than anything else. You'd think with AD's recent string of campaign wins EP would see preventing yet another victory by them would be desirable, but I guess not.

Elong · April 2019

Ahtu wrote: »

I never said faction locks were a good idea. And if Cyrodiil is one day empty, then we will have won the war and my work will be complete. I couldn't care less about AP.

Amazing.

RedGirl41 · April 2019

I agree with original post. they are taking all the info people leave here and using it in the game. post what you think! nobody asked for faction lock, that used to be in the game and people hated it then.

locking alliance wont change "spies" we have text chat sooooooo

and why is siege being buffed? I have pictures of oils for 3 ticks hitting 33k.... 11k meat bags.... this in no way needs a buff. you shouldn't be able to spam R2 to fire siege and kill a whole group.

JykJax · April 2019

what a joy, they don't listen any complaint about faction lock or keep one 30 days campaign without it.
Great change, thanks Zos

Minyassa · April 2019

Seems like this change was done for the benefit of people who only have one character, or create all of their characters in one alliance and only have friends in that same alliance. I'd be curious to know what the financial benefit for ZOS is in penalizing players that have characters in all three alliances, and friends in all three alliances that they'd like to play with.

JykJax · April 2019

Minyassa wrote: »

I'd be curious to know what the financial benefit for ZOS is in penalizing players that have characters in all three alliances, and friends in all three alliances that they'd like to play with.

For sure, after losing 10 pvp char to play without cp, they lost one subscription

ks888 · April 2019

@Minyassa well they're losing one sub because I am already making preparations with my housing storage to eliminate my sub if it goes live. I know others who will be doing the same.

Davadin · April 2019

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

The veteran player base in pvp needs to be more vocal, coordinated and supportive of each on the forums. Faction lock is happening because we did not do any of this. We need to take a stand and stop being so toxic toward each other, or we might have more terrible changes in store for the alliance war.

what is "veteran player".

somebody who put 1000 hours since 2014 beta in Cyrodiil?

Xsorus · April 2019

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

The veteran player base in pvp needs to be more vocal, coordinated and supportive of each on the forums. Faction lock is happening because we did not do any of this. We need to take a stand and stop being so toxic toward each other, or we might have more terrible changes in store for the alliance war.

i want faction lock

Ixtyr · April 2019

Davadin wrote: »

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

The veteran player base in pvp needs to be more vocal, coordinated and supportive of each on the forums. Faction lock is happening because we did not do any of this. We need to take a stand and stop being so toxic toward each other, or we might have more terrible changes in store for the alliance war.

what is "veteran player".

somebody who put 1000 hours since 2014 beta in Cyrodiil?

Only 1,000?

ATomiX96 · April 2019

Meh, for one good player theres at least 50 bad ones on the forums which just spam *** *** threads all day, just look how many people are spamming "im getting attacked in cyrodiil when I just want to quest"-threads these days.
And zos will obviously listen to the majority of the playerbase. You can be as vocal as you want but you wont overshadow 50 bad players' "opinions" on the forums.

pcar944 · April 2019

you were all too busy grouping up and not paying attention, you are welcome

Adernath · April 2019

As I said in another thread, I am looking forward for faction lock. Finally I hope that people do not constantly hop on the winning faction and we get more interesting balanced maps overall.

And yes, playing since open beta... so consider me a vet.

RedGirl41 · April 2019

If they really want to implement faction lock then it should be evenly spread:

30 day open
30 day faction lock
7 day open
7 day faction lock

that way you can join it if you want and play campaign. THEN you can see how many people actually want faction lock.

and btw faction lock isn't going prevent spies or whatever you think happens. we have had zone chat for years, party chats, discords... whatever

MipMip · April 2019

Since this thread's title reminds us to be more vocal here is a way to be vocal if you care about not being severely restricted in your options of playing with friends and looking for good fights: https://secure.avaaz.org/en/community_petitions/Zenimax_Online_Studios_Remove_Faction_Lock_From_ESO/details/

SshadowSscale · April 2019

Did not play in beta but have been playing since launch....(Did not care for the forums back then so I joined the forums pretty late lol)....... Just wanted to say I am for faction lock.....

amir412 · April 2019

Veterans gave up long time ago, no matter how hard we tried, ZOS never cared about our opinions, it doesnt matter if we are screaming loud enoguh or not.
We are not the majority, therefore it does not matter what we think for ZOS.

bulbousb16_ESO · May 2019

amir412 wrote: »

Veterans gave up long time ago, no matter how hard we tried.

Veterans? "We"? Your join date is 2017.

Veterans want faction lock, because we remember how it was better.

Haashhtaag · May 2019

bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »

amir412 wrote: »

Veterans gave up long time ago, no matter how hard we tried.

Veterans? "We"? Your join date is 2017.

Veterans want faction lock, because we remember how it was better.

In game veteran > forum warrior veteran