Ok, I'll wait till Monday.

Then I'll blow up.

Cause there's no way it's gonna be an improvement

Troneon wrote: »

Didn't they already nerf shields like harness magicka etc to only last 6 seconds....and already more nerfed in pvp....

Anymore they will never be worth using.

Yes, they did

jediodyn_ESO wrote: »

Shields are broken and imbalanced mechanically. Stacking, no Crit, same survival pool as damage modifier and most of the healing tree with crazy efficiency: They needed a fix.

Don’t QQ till you at least see the new system.

I hope they fix it in pvp and dont screw over pve yet AGAIN

My bet is that shields will be affected by defiles... Take note of this...

#MagsorcLivesMatter2018!!!

I sincerely hope they will lift some of the sustain changes the did in morrowind. They dont need to mess with nightblades, they need to raise other classes up to that sustain level.

AbysmalGhul wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

#MagsorcLivesMatter2018!!!

#GetTriggered2018

The 1% sorc falling from grace after the occupy Nightblade protests

Joy_Division wrote: »

ezio45 wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Can't people wait until they at least see the patch notes before criticizing the changes that they have no idea about?

With ZOS’s history with these things can you blame us? History has been even if the changes are ok we will still end up with major bugs from them fiddling. It’s not paranoia it’s historical logic. I might push the line but being a mag sorc main since beta this hits close to home too many time lately.

It's not that I don't understand the apprehension, it's that I know every single person already tossing blame and criticism would get upset (rightly) if people judged them similarly at work/school/social setting based on their past mistakes.

Just wait until Monday and base criticisms on the actual changes that are made.

but its not just one mistake man, EVERY SINGLE TIME zos makes changes like this its bad, ive grown to fear updates because they just mean more getting stripped away from a class i love

Ok, tell me what recommendations I should make about the PTS notes that we're going to have next week.

I get you're frustrated and so am I because sorcerer is my second most /played class. It's just that I don;t know what ZOS is going to do on Monday so the frustrations that are being articulated here are not new or concerns about something that has not taken place. Come monday, I'm sure there will be numerous things I don;t like about the patch notes and at that point, I will write my concerns down and have them based on actual data.

Ours are also based on data.

I.e., every patch up to this poin

Lylith wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Zodiac_ wrote: »

And although you have valid points i cant agree with you because i dont feel its right to complain about an upcoming change that will affect sorcs when there are two other magicka classes that not not only will be equally affected but are in a very poor place at the present state of the game

Thats why i find it really 'strange' to see mag sorcs complaining already for the changes and especially now that we dont even know what these changes will be

What classes would those be @Zodiac_ and what gameactivity are you speaking of? Warden and templar sure have a hard time soloing - but i´d put both above sorc currently when thinking of grouping.

And no other magica class will be affected in the same way sorcs are - because none has the same dependency on shields. Literally all other magica classes work without shields to some extend. Sorc becomes simply noncompetetive.

the complaining is simply fueled by almost 4.5 years of past experiences of what counterplay and balancing means to zos.
Picture a big hammer.

poorly aimed.

Fix'd

Joy_Division wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Can't people wait until they at least see the patch notes before criticizing the changes that they have no idea about?

With ZOS’s history with these things can you blame us? History has been even if the changes are ok we will still end up with major bugs from them fiddling. It’s not paranoia it’s historical logic. I might push the line but being a mag sorc main since beta this hits close to home too many time lately.

It's not that I don't understand the apprehension, it's that I know every single person already tossing blame and criticism would get upset (rightly) if people judged them similarly at work/school/social setting simply based on their past mistakes. Golden rule.

Just wait until Monday and base criticisms on the actual changes that are made.

I wouldn't. If I mess up every single time I've been given an assignment, people have a right to judge me until I prove myself worthy of trust again.

OK, here's the thing. As much time as I spent criticizing this game and the decisions that have been made, they have not messed up every single time. Go ahead and click on my wall of text with templars in my signature, there's a lot I don;t like that they have done. But the fact of the matter is they have made some good decisions and fixed a lot of stuff that was wrong with Templars. Like anyone else, they have made mistakes and made some good decisions.

But go on and keep criticizing stuff that does not even exist in the game yet.

Wow the Zos kool-aid is stronk.

Drdeath20 wrote: »

I feel your pain but cmon man your 3 days early lol

How, when the nerf was announced? We already know shields are getting nerfed, and knowing ZOS it won't be done with any finesse

ill quit this game when it happens and so will all the other veteran mgk players, insanity!!!! honestly not a single dev nor class rep have a clue about any balance in this game or what should be implemented in the game. everyone shows class bias and with another shield nerf its just another example of class bias 100% for the players that are envious and fail to realize shields don't make the class op it all, or are too bad to utilize them. they just keep perpetuating the misconception/narrative because shields are the only thing that gives resistances/opposes the opposition. soooooooo, of course they want them gone.