cyrodill rant

LifenLemons · July 2018

terrannova wrote: »

LifenLemons wrote: »

Ps4 NA is crap right now in cyrodiil. Can't even get to a keep & I get disconnected

i feel u bro

I'm gonna poop myself I swear...

terrannova · July 2018

Thunderclap wrote: »

terrannova wrote: »

I timed out again as we speak in cyro and cant even login now 3 times in the row

Yes same for me .

I already described the bug here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/426547/pvp-after-a-disconnect-i-cannot-log-back-into-pvp-immediately#latest

Yea it always goes like this whenever a timeout occurs

stitchesofdooom · July 2018

terrannova wrote: »

hello,
i know this post will recieve a lot of hate and negative comments but i wanna share my honest opinion about cyrodill server performance. This is because i can see that people keep having problems but most of the players, either have just accepted the server's struggle to stay alive , or either they dont want to admit that server's performance is poor only because they dont want to promote any more negativity towards the developers.
All that are said below concern EU VIVEC server. Its the most populated server and the one that most people play. If u are about to comment that i should try another server (like non cp or the 7day campaigns) i will answer that i dont want to play alone or with 10 other people at 90% of the time. People play Vivec cause of the large battles and the excitement of rushing to capture keeps and taking part in big sieges and thats what im after.

So firstly i would like to admit that i honestly LOVE this game and have something around 1000hours played (not that much i know but a decent amount). The thing i enjoy the most is PVP (in any game not just in eso) and i tend to play in cyrodill mostly. Most of the times i try to hop into cyrodill at non prime time, like early evenings or late night cause less people are online and server's performance is decent-good. At those times i can play without any issue and everything runs as smooth as possible. Everything changes when times goes by ,more people come in and server gets a decent amount of players in queue . At those times there is a delay in every skill activated ,but be sure that after all this time playing the game i am totally fine with it. Its understandable for a server with a big amount of players struggling and having some latency issues.I can honestly deal with some 200ish ping and some delay.

The thing that i am most irritated and most dissapointed as a customer is that i get timed out and disconnected when a zerg is nearby (everytime) or whenever there are fights happening with over 30 players at a keep. This happens almost every time i encounter anything like this in cyrodill.
I have to notice though that only for ONCE after the summerset update i enjoyed a full scale 2hour and 30minute (estimated time!!!) siege that all 3 factions took place surely with 100players(should be so) in roebeck and i was so proud that i only disconnected ONE time. Of course latency was very high but most important thing is that disconnects didnt happen to most of the players, although lots of people kept logging in claiming they got timed out many times.

So with all of those constant time outs and disconnects that happen regularly , how can someone believe that a PVP related event is going to work out? As of this time i am writing this i have been trying for 1 hour to stay in EU VICEC cyrodill and enjoy the full stacked server but i get timed out even when im not near any battle. People keep coming into pvp even if they never tried it before and it makes the server struggle even more. Its completely unresponsive!! Sure opening a couple of servers sure took some heat off the main server but its not working out.

How can someone excpect implementing this huge event into this really problematic pvp server with this absolutely terrible performance to be acceptable? I find the lack of reports from other players about this issue kinda disturbing.Just for the simple reason that developers will just wait untill the event goes away or players will be driven away by poor performance and things will operate great again. Game is in desperate need of a performance improvement only because summerset performance improvements didnt work at all.

I dont thing i have all my thoughts shared with any brave warrior that is going to read this monstrosity but i honestly dont care cause most people will comment only to judge me.
One last thing to prevent any keyboard warriors from losing their time my pc setup can run any other game without any trouble like battlefield 1 ,GTA5 , witcher 3 at high settings always above 60fps.Also my internet connection is more than enough so save your time.

thanks for everyone who took their time to read this

TL:DR EU vivec performance is terrible and needs urgent improvement before more players will be driven away (once more) from this game.

have you tried upgrading to PC?

Lylith · July 2018

terrannova wrote: »

Nightfall12 wrote: »

I know that you addressed not wanting to move over into another campaign, but with this event those do have some great fights going, mostly without lag.

bro thing is that i want a home campaign at all times,that has active players. I play pvp mostly and i dont want to "waste" my time playing for long at a 7day campaign that is full if only on prime time.

geonsocal wrote: »

terrannova wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

good for you giving things some thought and sharing it...

poor game performance definitely hasn't helped encourage more people to participate in cyrodiil...

thank you for taking your time to read this and answering. I can agree with everything u said . Game performance drives away most new players or even veterans , even now that summerset was a huge success and it brought in a very big number of players.

Vizier wrote: »

U cant do anything about lag bro ,except moving somewhere close to where the servers are located.Maybe germany or something. Buying a better rig will result in you getting 10fps maximum in big cyrodill fights. Game seems to be fps capped at all times, either in tamriel or inside cyrodill.100fps seem to be the maximum case in most of the posts i have seen, also myself. But when fights happen 40-50fps are definately there. In huge fights u cant do anything than to drop down to 30. My rig is good and i am not interested to invest 1000euros more to gain 5-10 more fps.

PureEnvelope35 wrote: »

Another thing that ZOS are failing to realise is that PvP games are extremely popular these days, which would mean that if they actually tried improving both performance and balance regularly (instead of giving us 'fixes' every 3 months) ESO would gain a much larger player base, thus giving ZOS more money to improve the game more. Instead it seems that the marketing team is focussing on short term investments like the crown store, instead of actual improvements for PvE and PvP that can really help the longevity of the game and boost the popularity a lot.

EXACTLY dude. This game could be huge if only bethesda invested more in them and the dev team was bigger. People are starving for a good mmo (what happened with bless), but zos is scared to improve servers or game performance in general cause it will drain their resources and as it seems the game income isnt enough for server upgrade yet. So they will stick to pve improvements cause thats what brings more money

yet bethesda is betting their next fallout title on an open world, pvp scenario with skeletal pve content.

go figure.

maybe when the money rolls in from that title, they'll allocate some for...yeah...right...nevermind.

Thunderclap · July 2018

And the pain starts again

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PC EU Vivec fight for Roe. Just a little away from keep and back to keep. And the connection was gone. This is [removed profanity]

Thunderclap · July 2018

And again. PVP EU Vivec fight for Alessia. Only pass the bridge from Sej to Aless. And the connection was gone, The game make really no fun in PVP in the current state.

And miss again the tic

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Thunderclap · July 2018

And again. PVP EU Vivec fight for nikel. Only run the hill up from roe. And the connection was gone. without word

And miss again the tic

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Lamiai · July 2018

One day we might get lucky and they remove the FX patch that helped ruin performance in Cyro.. pigs might fly too.

Shadowmaster · July 2018

Lamiai wrote: »

One day we might get lucky and they remove the FX patch that helped ruin performance in Cyro.. pigs might fly too.

it wasnt the fx patch it was the cheat engine checks

BigBragg · July 2018

I remember the first time they handed out double AP rewards. They said it was to gather data in order to improve Cyrodiil's performance. Still waiting on that years later....

Thunderclap · July 2018

And again. PVP EU Vivec. In just captured Sej via TS portet. Arrived and the connection was gone.

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Completely frustrating once again

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Nicko_Lps · July 2018

Indeed terrannova, i bet ZoS have heard of the 4 years LAG that zergs cause in cyrodiil. They must have right?
Therefore this event should not be there, but if they ever heard of lag+zergs combo. Cant give you my word they did ^^

Exodium · July 2018

What do you expect from arguably the most inept company who havent fixed PvP performance since launch. ESO has enjoyed a quiet period of not having much competition out there, but when the big-boy MMOs come out on console (Camelot, Ashes of Creation, BDO) this game will get shelved faster than any other.

MajBludd · July 2018

Yeah, pretty amazing I've played pvp and rarely had problems with lag up to this weekend. Now, I can't sit on sej porch w/ npcs without getting disconnected.

JumpmanLane · July 2018

Ok, I’ve done everything except win a BG, then I’ll be a Star-Made Knight. Any word on BG performance? I’m gonna get that achievement and I’m not going NEAR Cyrodiil until this event is over.

I’m gonna farm mats and hunt skyshards or something. This Unplayable Mayhem is beyond irritating.

terrannova · July 2018

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Ok, I’ve done everything except win a BG, then I’ll be a Star-Made Knight. Any word on BG performance? I’m gonna get that achievement and I’m not going NEAR Cyrodiil until this event is over.

I’m gonna farm mats and hunt skyshards or something. This Unplayable Mayhem is beyond irritating.

bg's are decent , not a problem as far for myself. Never had honestly

Malmai · July 2018

What are you talking about guys if you paid 13€ a month you would have no lag in PvP go grab these subs fast...

terrannova · July 2018

Exodium wrote: »

What do you expect from arguably the most inept company who havent fixed PvP performance since launch. ESO has enjoyed a quiet period of not having much competition out there, but when the big-boy MMOs come out on console (Camelot, Ashes of Creation, BDO) this game will get shelved faster than any other.

for some reason deep down i really want this to happen, but this game has followers cause of the lore and lots of elder scroll fans. Those games u spoke of are a joke though... Also no small company can make an mmo that big ,which starving players need to lose themselves in.

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Indeed terrannova, i bet ZoS have heard of the 4 years LAG that zergs cause in cyrodiil. They must have right?
Therefore this event should not be there, but if they ever heard of lag+zergs combo. Cant give you my word they did ^^

they dont give a [removed profanity] bro... they dont make money off of cyrodill so focus only pve and everything's fine. People will rant over pvp performance but sometime it will go down (people leaving or performance is decent cause players bailed out)

Lylith wrote: »

maybe when the money rolls in from that title, they'll allocate some for...yeah...right...nevermind.

lol that was good

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

have you tried upgrading to PC?

actually im impressed that someone like you is able to use a personal computer. Please have always someone on your side to help you walk

Nicko_Lps · July 2018

For Auri-El's sake ZoS delete that freaking pve - zerg event on cyrodiil

Thunderclap · July 2018

New day, new frustration

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PVP EU Vivec. TS port from BB to BM. It was not ua. Only a red zerg inside farm ap.

Arrived and the connection was gone.

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And because your *** server can't activate my char I have internet problem?

2018-07-29T12:36:20.369+01:00 Load Screen - Waiting On: DYNAMIC_OBJECTS, CHARACTER_ACTIVATED,
2018-07-29T12:36:22.326+01:00 Load Screen - DYNAMIC_OBJECTS Complete
2018-07-29T12:36:22.326+01:00 Load Screen - Waiting On: CHARACTER_ACTIVATED,
2018-07-29T12:37:25.876+01:00 Load Screen - OnDisconnectedFromServer
2018-07-29T12:37:25.876+01:00 Load Screen - Hide

Fix your ***!

terrannova · July 2018

Thunderclap wrote: »

New day, new frustration .

PVP EU Vivec. TS port from BB to BM. It was not ua. Only a red zerg inside farm ap.

Arrived and the connection was gone. .

And because your *** server can't activate my char I have internet problem?

2018-07-29T12:36:20.369+01:00 Load Screen - Waiting On: DYNAMIC_OBJECTS, CHARACTER_ACTIVATED,
2018-07-29T12:36:22.326+01:00 Load Screen - DYNAMIC_OBJECTS Complete
2018-07-29T12:36:22.326+01:00 Load Screen - Waiting On: CHARACTER_ACTIVATED,
2018-07-29T12:37:25.876+01:00 Load Screen - OnDisconnectedFromServer
2018-07-29T12:37:25.876+01:00 Load Screen - Hide

Fix your ***!

damn bro

Nicko_Lps · July 2018

Thunderclap wrote: »

New day, new frustration .

PVP EU Vivec. TS port from BB to BM. It was not ua. Only a red zerg inside farm ap.

Arrived and the connection was gone. .

And because your *** server can't activate my char I have internet problem?

2018-07-29T12:36:20.369+01:00 Load Screen - Waiting On: DYNAMIC_OBJECTS, CHARACTER_ACTIVATED,
2018-07-29T12:36:22.326+01:00 Load Screen - DYNAMIC_OBJECTS Complete
2018-07-29T12:36:22.326+01:00 Load Screen - Waiting On: CHARACTER_ACTIVATED,
2018-07-29T12:37:25.876+01:00 Load Screen - OnDisconnectedFromServer
2018-07-29T12:37:25.876+01:00 Load Screen - Hide

Fix your ***!

Red zerg nowadays means -40fps and +150ms

Now if that red zerg was ZS (that complained about lag before they leave vivec and return again 'lagbringers complain about lag') add on top of this another 50% increase just because ZS mindless spam is unreal.

I still remember though ZS zergleader complaining on AD zonechat @2014 how "pathetic mindless zerglings" S.W.A.T. and K.O.C. was, just because they cant kill anything alone they bring lag to the server ^^

When i reach close to 300ms or over that, i know UF or ZS is near.

Thunderclap · July 2018

New day, new pain.

PVP EU Vivec. TS port from Sej to Roe. It was not ua. Only some blue around. Arrived and the connection was gone.

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p00tx · July 2018

We're tired. If you look back in the posting logs, you'll see hundreds of posts about server performance, with players literally pleading with Zos to do something about it. You'll see bug reports and pleas for help that have gone unanswered and unaddressed. I sent in a ticket recently because I logged back in after a disconnect to find my entire assault and support skill lines had been reset back to 1 (I was at 10 before), without refunding the skill points I'd invested. When I didn't get a response to the ticket, I posted a bug report here. 3 weeks later, and after leveling it back up to max and moving on with my life, I still have yet to hear back from anyone. As a fellow PvPer, you can appreciate how crucial this loss was. After years of nothing but quick fixes and mild to absent placation, we're just tired.

When this game came out, it was a beautiful game with rich, immersive graphics and story line. I've never seen anything like before or since. Now, it's even more beautiful and rich, with intricate details that creates an incredible array of opportunity to customize your own game play. I freaking love this game and I don't want to give up on it. I'm tired though.

I can't speak for everyone, but I am personally just playing it as much as I can until whoever is banking the profit from this at the top decides to cash out and dump this thing. Whatever this was at the beginning, whatever vision was present when it was conceived, it is no longer a source of pride for its creator, but an income engine (this does not detract from the obvious pride the creative team takes in creating new content). Once that happens to any creation, it's only a matter of time before it's game over.

terrannova · July 2018

time outs still happen yet no word of anything as usual even with less players in queue. They will wait untill people go off the servers so that things are back to being bearable by most....

such a shame

thegreat_one · July 2018

Too many people in this thread alone all have the same symptoms, I get kicked whenever there is a big keep fight, just as i get to the breach.
I have a brand new reg, 3 month old. (Maybe not that new)

Which means, either us players are running the exact same rig / internet set up which is causing the disconnects on our end.

Or the servers cannot handle the population in one area and needs to kick people in order to stabilize.

I'm not a IT guy or anything but someone needs to upgrade and it ain't us.

Rickter · July 2018

Ive had the opposite experience. no lag, 40-60fps 100-150 ping.

why?

because as soon as the game feels "off" in terms of performance, I port to one of the servers ZOS proactively and graciously opened for inevitable overflow.

Sometimes i bounce between campaigns 5 times in one evening to maintain an extremely positive experience ive had thus far with this event which has now become a standard to the industry.

you can change your guest campaign for free. leave cyro > change guest > port to new campaign > avoid pop locked servers > avoid bad performance > profit.

pzschrek · July 2018

This is always how it has been, FYI. The sort of fights that you came to PVP for are the sort of fights that will DC you or at best give you bad skill delay.

As soon as we got in a campaign on the gate, last night a guildie said "There probably aren't any good fights going on on this campaign. I can tell because my skills are working when I push the button." That's ESO pvp in a nutshell, when it doesn't just immediately DC you.

pzschrek · July 2018

Also @Rickter thats a great idea in theory, but 2-3 bars in those campaigns is still like a ghost town! I can't figure out where everyone goes.

Rickter · July 2018

@pzschrek I am also speaking from a DC perspective. AD and EP pop lock most servers. I guess i shouldve added in that caveat. DC small scale faction confirmed. #lowpopbonusfordays

on D'Albei last night, i had 4, went against 6, was a good fight. over 16k ap just for that.

AD zerging down Aleswell, set up 3 catapult, annihilated their first wave with only 7 in my group. Glorious.